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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 490

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Your merging of the 2011 + 2020 shots to maximize detail is gorgeous (and next-level) work! I so appreciate the effort and time you’re pouring into this edit.

Apologies if this has been discussed before and I missed it, but I was curious about the intention behind two changes from the original version of ANH:R I noticed in your January comparison shots: the pink X-Wing engine glows (which you made redder before) and Vader’s red lenses (which were blacker last time). What inspired the different approach this time?

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The numbers on the Death Star update meter start at 1138. Nice touch.

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Hey Ady, I saw the post you made two days ago, and you never fail to amaze me with the amount of work being done. Although, I just wanted to ask something really quick.
If hypothetically the OT gets brand-new, proper 4K transfers of all three in their unaltered forms with the same kind of treatment and care found in releases like the 2021 Scream Factory 4K Release of Halloween (1978), or the most recent 2023 Disney 4K Release of Cinderella (1950), could the Revisited Trilogy look and sound just about the same?
However, please note that this is purely hypothetical. By the way, I’d like to leave this here; (I just hope that I don’t derail the topic of this thread) My take of remastering the existing 2020 UHD with a frame that isn’t DNR-scrubbed.

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EvantheKidDS said:

If hypothetically the OT gets brand-new, proper 4K transfers of all three in their unaltered forms with the same kind of treatment and care found in releases like the 2021 Scream Factory 4K Release of Halloween (1978), or the most recent 2023 Disney 4K Release of Cinderella (1950)

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Bobson Dugnutt said:

EvantheKidDS said:

If hypothetically the OT gets brand-new, proper 4K transfers of all three in their unaltered forms with the same kind of treatment and care found in releases like the 2021 Scream Factory 4K Release of Halloween (1978), or the most recent 2023 Disney 4K Release of Cinderella (1950)

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What did I just say.

EvantheKidDS said:

However, please note that this is purely hypothetical.

Why is it when I make it explicitly clear that I’m talking hypothetically, I still get made to look like a complete idiot.

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EvantheKidDS said:

If hypothetically the OT gets proper 4K transfers of in their unaltered forms, could the Revisited Trilogy look and sound just about the same?

You ask very silly questions sometimes.

An official 4k Blu-Ray of the unaltered theatrical cut, perhaps a scan of a 77 Technicolour print, probably an interpositive if anything, would look nothing like an unofficial fanedit, made to be what the Special Editions could of been, coloured and crafted too look like what a fan wanted to create. From the custom sound mix, to the new visual effects.

Revisited is not a theatrical preservation, never has been, and has never aimed to be anything like the unaltered original cut.

It’s like asking if Revisited is going to be anything like Harmy’s 3.0. Completely different things with different goals. They would never ever look or sound exactly the same.

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SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

This also reminds me, I wonder how easy it would be to remove JEJ’s own breathing (not Vader’s) in the Death Star briefing room scene:

“Don’t be too proud of this technological terror you’ve constructed (breathe) the ability to destroy a planet (breathe) is insignificant (breathe) next to the power of the force.”

OK, so I tried it myself and I think it works pretty well.

https://youtu.be/DNagkyPu5A4

Granted, I “sweetened” it a little bit- or tried to. Anyways, it might help you decide if you want to try it or not in your version.

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adywan said:

2011:

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Chewie isn’t wearing his bandolier throughout this scene, apart from this shot when they jump into hyperspace. I wasn’t able to fix this originally because of chewie’s movement, but I have been able to now because I’ve learned new techniques. A bloody nightmare rotoscoping that fur though. This one shot took over 3 weeks to finish. Sometimes the shots that look the easiest turn out to be a nightmare to do.

Looks great. This is something I was hoping to see fixed.

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Tantive3+1 said:

I remember adywan mentioning there would be more comm chatter during the Battle of Yavin (I guess he’ll take this from the radio play).

That’s not something i’m doing. Maybe you have it mixed up with when i said that the extended space battle i did originally needed more com chatter?

Your right. My mistake.

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@adywan Thank you for your continued hard work, and for this update.

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Everything looks great Ady, I am one of those who really enjoy the whole creation process that you are doing, thanks for the update.

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@adywan your shot of obi wan luke c 3p0 r2d2 going into mos Eisley space port is overly bright.

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One thing that always has bothered me since 1997 is the Tie Fighter that chases Luke after “I can’t shake him.” in the SE doesn’t have the red thrusters on and I find it very strange it’s something Lucas let slide even years after 04, 11 and 2020. Yet the original shot model shot has them present. You having the continuity eye you have is this something you planned on fixing or already have???

All my life as I looked away to the future, to the horizon. Never in my mind did I know where I was, what I was doing.

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Fullmetaled said:

@adywan your shot of obi wan luke c 3p0 r2d2 going into mos Eisley space port is overly bright.

you’re going to have to show which shot you mean, but none of them are overly bright.

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One thing that always has bothered me since 1997 is the Tie Fighter that chases Luke after “I can’t shake him.” in the SE doesn’t have the red thrusters on and I find it very strange it’s something Lucas let slide even years after 04, 11 and 2020. Yet the original shot model shot has them present. You having the continuity eye you have is this something you planned on fixing or already have???

It’s something i have tried to fix, but tracking where the red thrusters should be is not easy because of the motion blur. i tried tracking but it goes way off, so then tried sections and then manually tracking frame by frame in the impossible parts and it didn’t look good, so i put that shot to one side. If i can’t get it to look good then it will have to stay as it is now.

There are so many errors with the SE additions that never got sorted. Like the laser bolts in this shot being cut off. Thankfully i’ve been able to fix most of the rest

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adywan said:

Fullmetaled said:

@adywan your shot of obi wan luke c 3p0 r2d2 going into mos Eisley space port is overly bright.

you’re going to have to show which shot you mean, but none of them are overly bright.

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This shot but someone said this about this I think about the mos esley scenes in general. that is a weird color ‘fix’, if he was going after original look, why would he add in all that contrast and color for Mos Eisley scenes? Those were notoriously drab and colorless on the original. First person who pointed it out said it almost looked deep fried that how bright that shot is.

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Adywan I really applaud the painstaking effort to merge multiple sources into probably what will be the best looking 1080p ANH footage in existence. Too bad it has to be frame by frame and can’t be motion tracked??!! Could you do the initial crop and aligning of a clip and then raise the gamma (temporarily) to give the motion tracker something to hold onto?

heil Palpatine!

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Fullmetaled said:

adywan said:

Fullmetaled said:

@adywan your shot of obi wan luke c 3p0 r2d2 going into mos Eisley space port is overly bright.

you’re going to have to show which shot you mean, but none of them are overly bright.

[url=https://postimg.cc/sBqKPzkW][img]https://i.postimg.cc/sBqKPzkW/IMG-0313.jpg[/img][/url]

This shot but someone said this about this I think about the mos esley scenes in general. that is a weird color ‘fix’, if he was going after original look, why would he add in all that contrast and color for Mos Eisley scenes? Those were notoriously drab and colorless on the original. First person who pointed it out said it almost looked deep fried that how bright that shot is.

I haven’t altered the contrast or brightness in any of these shots. All i did is remove the pink tint from the SE shots and have the colour of the sky match throughout, where it swapped colour and saturation throughout the sequence. You can see from there screenshots that brightness , contrast or saturation has not been boosted from the original source.

2011 Blu-Ray

ANH:RHD

2011 Blu-Ray

ANH:RHD

And Mos Eisley was never drab. I have a feeling that whoever said that may have been using the 2020 Blu-Rays/ Disney+ versions as a guide and those are horribly bland with crap grading, which is almost sepia in places and nothing like the films originally looked like

2020/ disney+ version:

The only shot i know about that someone mentioned in here was the shot of them looking over Mos Eisley that was shown in the last preview video, where it was commented that the contrast was too high in that shot. But, again. the contrast or brightness hasn’t been touched in that shot. The blown out highlights are there in the original source as can be seen below:

2011 Blu-Ray

ANH:RHD ( from the preview video)

But, as you can see from the following shot, this has now been swapped out for a new version using the 2020 blu-ray as a source, eliminating the blown highlights.

ANH:RHD Final version

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krausfadr said:

Adywan I really applaud the painstaking effort to merge multiple sources into probably what will be the best looking 1080p ANH footage in existence. Too bad it has to be frame by frame and can’t be motion tracked??!! Could you do the initial crop and aligning of a clip and then raise the gamma (temporarily) to give the motion tracker something to hold onto?

It was motion tracked. Even altering the image to give better definition, as soon as the TIE swoops from right to left, the motion blur knocks out the tracking for where the lights should be. so , for the many frames where the tracking was knocked out, you have to go in manually and adjust the position frame by frame. For the most part it seemed to work when i was trying it originally, but the swooping section just never looked right as you couldn’t really see where the light should be. But, since i last posts, i decided to go back and give it another go and it seems to have worked now. Sometimes it’s just best to leave a shot that isn’t working, no matter how hard you try, and come back to it at a later date. 😃 (gif may take a while to load depending on internet speed)

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Fullmetaled said:

@adywan you did you use sharpening tools just wondering Someone said this shot looked overly sharpened. It was on a discord

Well that shot is from 2 different sources, as was fully explained in the original post on this site where i posted that image. No sharpening was done. It was to show how much detail has been scrubbed from the 2020 blu-ray, which is the image on the left, compared to the detail in the 2011 Blu-Rays, which is the image on the right. The panels on the droid in the 2020 blu-rays have been almost scrubbed away including the weathering.

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This is the way Ady, I appreciate you reaching out to my comment. Oh wow im so happy to see a dream shot come true. I cant wait to see when the project is finally finished. “Stay on Target” good sir & thank you.

All my life as I looked away to the future, to the horizon. Never in my mind did I know where I was, what I was doing.

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adywan said:

2011 Blu-Ray

ANH:RHD

2020/ disney+ version:

This might be a controversial opinion but of the three I find the 2020 version more appealing. Now of course its no where near perfect. The scubbing they have done has removed amost all the detail to the point at which it looks almost painterly and the sky is also very desaturated. But, the orginal SE feels over saturated and noisy and I also find that there is something of about the shading on the white tubes in the center of frame. I think its the highlight inside the top left of the tube, it doesnt match the sun direction.

This then carries over to your RHD shot which does fix the colour grading and brings out a lot of detail in the ogrinal shot. However, to me this shot doesn’t look good in its original state anyway, the colour do not look natural and the shadows are too weak. Its a product of rushed 3D rendering and of course when that was still fairly new.

I beleive what it is about the 2020 version is by dulling down the dark patches on the floor, they are not longer darker than the shadows and so it feel less off. My explination doesn’t really make sence reading it back, but I cannot find the words to describe what I am talking about.

Another thought I had was the engine glow on the speeder. It obviously shoundn’t be to bright/visable in daylight however the dull blue doesn’t really look right either. Idk maybe its just me but a lot of that shot has never looked right since it was added.

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Telion said:

adywan said:

2011 Blu-Ray

ANH:RHD

2020/ disney+ version:

This might be a controversial opinion but of the three I find the 2020 version more appealing. Now of course its no where near perfect. The scubbing they have done has removed amost all the detail to the point at which it looks almost painterly and the sky is also very desaturated. But, the orginal SE feels over saturated and noisy and I also find that there is something of about the shading on the white tubes in the center of frame. I think its the highlight inside the top left of the tube, it doesnt match the sun direction.

The shading inside the tube is the same in the original

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I don’t know if it’s the same issue as Telion’s, but I do think ANH:R looks too sharp there. It’s as if the background elements are too highlighted and don’t blend in, particularly against the clear blue sky. Compared to the 2011 source, I’d say leaving some sort of gradient to the sky (like that dust haze in the 2020 shot) would alleviate that and give it a more organic look.

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adywan said:

Telion said:

adywan said:

2011 Blu-Ray

ANH:RHD

2020/ disney+ version:

This might be a controversial opinion but of the three I find the 2020 version more appealing. Now of course its no where near perfect. The scubbing they have done has removed amost all the detail to the point at which it looks almost painterly and the sky is also very desaturated. But, the orginal SE feels over saturated and noisy and I also find that there is something of about the shading on the white tubes in the center of frame. I think its the highlight inside the top left of the tube, it doesnt match the sun direction.

The shading inside the tube is the same in the original

Yeah this illitrates perfectly how they changed the lighting on everything else, and how the saturation and contrast was boosted on everything in the SE version.

To be clear I think the SE changes make sence, especially the relighting to match previous and following scenes but it just doesn’t look natural, especially the ground.