So, while I was creating the new episode mentioned in my previous post, I also took the opportunity to review and refine the standards for my ‘special’ episodes, those being the ones I’d called prologues and codas.
Now, they all feature a standardised format for the show titles, with the same timing and other conventions. So while they differ slightly from the main normal episodes, they’re at least consistent with each other.
I also changed their definitions slightly. Inspired by Brandon Sanderson’s novel ‘The Way of Kings’, which begins with both a prelude and a prologue, I opted to do similar. These words are mostly interchangeable, but there is a little subtlety I enjoyed applying here.
Therefore, we now have:
Anyway, it’s not super important, and the updates to the episodes are just these titles, but it’s nice to have consistency, and it’s also nice to play with language!
I heard some people have used Elevenlabs ai and it doesn’t sound jarring so can someone use it on lost missions palpatine so Tim curry is no longer palpatine. replaced with either the clone wars palpatine is fully palpatine and sidious or replace with ian mcdiarmid as palpatine.
I love this project, big fan. Please use AI to replace all characters with their original actors, for tomorrow. Thanks!
I heard some people have used Elevenlabs ai and it doesn’t sound jarring so can someone use it on lost missions palpatine so Tim curry is no longer palpatine. replaced with either the clone wars palpatine is fully palpatine and sidious or replace with ian mcdiarmid as palpatine.
Literally watching this video as I saw this comment. Lol
I think, instead, I’ll train an AI on Nigel Thornberry. Smashing!
The interlude sounds interesting. I’ll see if I can give it a watch today.
Also, feel free to deepfake all FoD footage into TCW style as soon as you can.
On it.
Awesome, the more the merrier! Do you plan to add the remaining three Dooku TotJ episodes somewhere, maybe even as a dream or a flashback? They are pretty damn good and very important character pieces, it’s a shame not having them on this glorious project.
They are in the project! They don’t need editing though, so just watch them on Disney+ as part of your ‘season zero’ watch along with TPM and AOTC.
If we look at the newly announced Disney Canon timeline, the scope of TCW:R has really expanded to represent the entire ‘Fall of the Jedi’ era. (But, as I say, those specific ones don’t need an edit, and you can watch your preferred cut of the prequel movies.)
I really appreciate the way you’ve incorporated the Ahsoka TotJ episodes, and I thoroughly enjoyed your new interlude; I honestly couldn’t work out how to fit all that together chronologically, but you’ve nailed it in my opinion. My only comment on the interlude itself would be that the “Imposter Inside” and “Teach You I Will” FoD episodes feel out of order. I appreciate they’re presented in the same order as the series, but in “Imposter Inside” Ahsoka seems familiar and comfortable with twin blades, whereas in her training it’s implied she’s only just received the second lightsaber. That said, it works well in the transition to her Clone training with twin blades in the next scene, so I guess there’s arguments both ways.
I typically watch RotS using a Siege of Mandalore cut, and so skip your episodes of that arc (sorry), but I’ve yet to find one that incorporates Ahsoka’s attendance at Padme’s funeral without adding a ton of game cinematics or episode 1 of Bad Batch (I feel that sits better in a standalone Bad Batch edit), so doing the other Ahsoka TotJ episodes as you advise works as a solution also. Even if I did find, or even make (that’d be a learning curve) my “perfect” cut of RotS, I’d still have a standalone short episode of the rest of Resolve to fit in afterwards.
I agree that the first two Dooku episodes sit well as a standalone pieces, although I did find an edit of TPM that included the final episode, much like how I enjoy SoM being included in RotS.
I heard some people have used Elevenlabs ai and it doesn’t sound jarring so can someone use it on lost missions palpatine so Tim curry is no longer palpatine. replaced with either the clone wars palpatine is fully palpatine and sidious or replace with ian mcdiarmid as palpatine.
Literally watching this video as I saw this comment. Lol
It so so close but yeah you can tell still it’s ai but man it’s so close. If only if those minor imperfections weren’t there.
I think replacing an entire performance with AI is ehhh…I’m not in favor of it.
Agreed. Plus, I’ve already had this exact conversation with fullmetaled before…
Completely unwatchable I’m afraid. FoD Ahsoka has eyebrows! I need brainbleach. Please deepfake them out ASAP.
On an actual feedback kinda note, the concept is perfect. Each of the FoD episodes fit around the TotJ frame perfectly and even have the right number to match the major blackouts she has. ‘Practice Makes Perfect’ works better as a S2 to S3 bridge than where TotJ seems to indicate it takes place (sometime in S1).
The ambiguous ending works well as well, an effective hook with reserved mystery. The theme of the developing lightsabre skills in the FoD shorts tie in well to the use of the two sabres in the second part of PMP.
Incidently, as well as the random, nightmare inducing eyebrows, I noticed that there’s a glow on her green sabre when she fights Yoda before she’s activated the blade. They really cheeped out with the animation for FoD. Also, both her sabres are green. Not an issue for you do do anything about, just something I’d not noticed.
I agree with Daiyus that the order of the two FoD episodes after she gets the two sabres seems like it’s the wrong way around. The flow might not work as well switched but narrativity Yoda should really be telling her that she needs to fight like herself. I wonder if just cutting the short with the assassin might help considering it has to take place first even though she is using one in reverse grip which she hasn’t been told to do yet.
The last observation is the aspect ratio. Switching from the silly frame with the top and bottom cut off to the full screen is a bit jarring, even superseding the animation style change.
It’s possible I’m just sensitive to aspect ration changes as I’m one of those filthy people who want images to fill the entire screen they paid for and not leave massive black bars at the top and bottom or at the sides, that goes for films too, I want the entire picture, not a cut up version in the middle of my screen.
Thanks for the feedback! Glad you liked the concept. I can change the aspect ratio if people agree, though for me I thought it worked OK since the format permits a little weirdness.
I could switch the scene of Ahsoka training with two lightsabers with her using two to protect Padmé. The reason I originally went with this order was threefold: Firstly, I thought it was OK since she can have and use the second lightsaber before formally training with it. But secondly, I figured that not-quite-chronological was acceptable here, instead emphasising the way she’s thinking in thematic chunks. First, during her early training, she’s focused on Anakin’s protective side, which reminds her of Padmé, and her own relationship with her; and then, as the training intensifies, she focuses more on her own training and her Jedi path. And thirdly, it puts the official second lightsaber training with Yoda right next to when she starts also using it in her training against clones. But I’m not married to that ordering.
I’d rather have changing aspect ratios than having unintended cropping on 16:9 material. There’s films out there that handle multiple aspect ratios just fine. Everything Everywhere All at Once is a good example. The thing there, though, is rather than suddenly switching ratios, the movie eases you into it, like shown in this video
I could probably make that work.
That’d work really nicely. I think it will add to the effect that she’s having these dreams/visions/memories throughout the training when she gets knocked out.
Just wanted to say this is monumental effort. Thanks for your work.
Just started diving into your edit, and I’m really excited to get into the more meatier episodes at a faster pace. The next one I’m about to start with my Dad(his first time watching)is the episode introducing the Nightsisters. looking through your changelog I noticed you cut the scene where Obi_wan and Anakin see the Nighbrother village for the first time. I agree it doesn’t add much the current ep and seems to just exist for padding, hwoever this scene is important far later in the story during Maul’s takeover of Mandalore. When Satine is being choked during Obi-wan’s capture, he attempts to genuinely try to appeal to Maul’s humanity regarding his upbringing and the life that was chosen for him. Specifically he mentions how he saw his village and the caste system he grew up in, and argues how the choice to embark on path to Darkside was forced upon him by Talzin at a young age. I feel like Obi-wan wouldn’t have made this connection without that prior knowledge from the cut scene.
For convenience’s sake, here’s the scene I’m talking about https://youtu.be/SOBEC2fZvck (starts at the 50 second mark)
If I remember right, I’ve taken out the references to the village, but shown that Obi-Wan still has the information about Maul. It’s a nice moment but not one that needed all the setup, nor a super vital one for a trimmed edit.
It’s quite another project, but have you ever considered adding English subtitles to these episodes? I’m asking anyway even though I can already sense the answer since there are countless cuts throughout = subtitles would require a lot of manual timing etc. English is not my native language so I’m just used to watching most media with subtitles (just for confirming I heard the dialogue correctly or check how various difficult names are spelled).
It’s not feasible for me to add those with the current amount of attention the rest of my life requires, however, if anyone else were to produce subtitle tracks I’d gladly include them.
I’ve slowly delved into TCW:R over the last couple weeks, and I love it. It’s now my preferred way to experience the show, and I have so much gratitude for the tireless effort put into this. I did have a couple questions/notes/what-have-yous that I wanted to bring up, though. Leading with the question, are your plans for the rest of the applicable content from 2003’s CW near or far off? The Ilum content in particular feels important enough that I hesitate to doff it with NumeralJoker’s cut, no matter how much your alterations, especially your overhaul of Anakin’s portrayal, enhance the show.
I also want to say I appreciate how you provide multiple ways to experience this. However, your intros sometimes reference the episode just prior in a way that doesn’t feel self-contained. For example, Attack on Geonosis is noted as potentially important for the Filoniverse, but not Shadow of Geonosis. Yet skipping the latter makes the line “Padme’s recent investigation” during the intro feel like a nod to something the viewer should’ve seen but didn’t as compared to something like “A recent investigation by Padme.” It isn’t a big gripe, but it’s something that felt noteworthy enough to mention.
Anyway, I believe that’s all I have to say. Thanks again for this incredible project. It grows more impressive with every bit I see.
Thanks very much for the feedback! I’m very glad you’re enjoying it.
The remaining early Tartakovsky stuff (including Ilum) is next to be re-included. It actually WAS there previously, as the interlude in an episode grouped with the Forces of Destiny stuff. But I replaced that version with the new interlude pairing FoD with the TotJ episode, so it’s on the cutting room floor again, temporarily. It’ll be the next thing I pick up.
As for the Filoniverse cut not being self contained, I feel like that’s the compromise the viewer has to accept. To speed run the show, you must assume that other skipped stuff may be referenced. I don’t have the intention to create alternate openings, or generic ones that work either way, at least. The recommended version is the recommended one - Filoniverse cut is more of a bonus.
Hope you enjoy the rest!