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I agree with your cuts Acbagel. I think S3 needs to be treated the same as BoBF, less is definitely more in this case. Also, awesome clip! Really love that you added even more connective tissue between both shows!
I agree almost entirely on Eddie approach he laid out, especially about making this two “movies”.
One thing I mainly disagree about is the shadow council scene, I personally think its placement should be in chapter 6 or 7 and in its entirety. Mainly cause I feel it just fits there the best. And I guess I personally just like it better there lol. But I may be alone on that.
Anyways. Great ideas Eddie
“You will find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view” — Obi-Wan Kenobi
Thanks for the feedback Eddie and Peon. I’m still considering all options for Book 6 (and possibly 7). In general, I’d rather conclude my saga on one amazing movie rather than two average movies by padding it with scenes just for the sake of using all the content. I consider this Season 3 content to be more akin to what I had to do with BoBF (where I cut out ~2 hours of raw footage in order to tell a new, focused narrative), but I’m open to being proven wrong if I can find a way to make 2 compelling films. My main concern is my Books 1-5 really don’t have a dip in storytelling quality in any of them. It’s not like Book 4 is “the weakest one” but you have to “power through to get to the good stuff” in Book 5 or something. I think the narrative in all 5 is pretty top tier across the board, so I worry that splitting all of season 3 into two films will cause a drop in quality at the end of the saga and make it drag.
I will soon share my scene structure draft for Book 6 though and see if you all feel like it’s missing anything important. I am, at the moment, suspecting that I can tell the best story possible through ~2.75 hours of Mando S3 content combined with my VFX scenes, but I could be wrong! I’ll give some previews of that next week. The primary cuts I’m planning are the Pershing storyline, the raptor chase, ~50% of the Nevarro scenes and pirates, and the Plazir side quest. So adding any one of those back into Book 6 would require me to add another one of those into Book 7 in order to make 2 hour runtimes. The raptor is I suppose what I’d miss the most, but then I have to add something else into Book 7…? And I really don’t think adding anything else from those other cut segments is beneficial at all. It’s like in my BoBF I reframed everything so those Hutts never come in as they were a huge distraction that never went anywhere at all. I think that a few plot threads in S3 are like that. But if you think any of those above S3 scenes are crucial I’d be interested to hear.
I’m still planning on having Book 3 released Monday/Tuesday. Here’s a draft preview of something I’ve been working on: https://streamable.com/5xcxwl
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I agree with your cuts Acbagel. I think S3 needs to be treated the same as BoBF, less is definitely more in this case. Also, awesome clip! Really love that you added even more connective tissue between both shows!
What’re your plans for Luke training Grogu and Grogu rejoining Din?
What’re your plans for Luke training Grogu and Grogu rejoining Din?
Grogu trains with Luke across Book 5 and Act 1 of Book 6 before rejoining Din (if I can pull this VFX off) underneath the mines of Mandalore after experiencing a vision of captured Din when he is deciding on the lightsaber v armor scene. R5 flies the N1 back to Grogu, Grogu jumps in and flies it to Bo, then they go to get Din.
So book 6 Act 1 is Grogu training and Din going to Mandalore alone (he receives his “baptism mission” in Book 5 now), Act 2 is Grogu training with Mandalorians and some of the Nevarro battle, Act 3 is the final Mandalore sequence.
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Seeing the Dr Pershing’s storyline getting cut is the most heartbreaking to me. I thought that episode was so damn good, very mature star wars in the likes of Andor, showing the everyday people adapting to the current new regime.
And, most importantly, it showed us how Coruscant was working post RotJ, and what exactly was this New Republic deal, something that not even the sequel trilogy had. So IMHO it’s very very important not only to this series but to Star Wars as a whole.
But I do understand that it gets in the way of a more straight to the point narrative. So why not make a “special”, like a half an hour episode out of this? Having a “The Way of Mandalore Side Tales” folder or something? Kinda like EddieDean made with his Clone Wars awesome project. This way it wouldn’t get in the way of the main storyline and those who liked it wouldn’t miss this bit of the story. And it would even help with future decent content that doesn’t fit well in the movie format. I know that we could just go and watch the episode, but… well, with some trims and edits, I’m 100% positive you’d make this side-story flow even better!
I agree that the rest can definitely go though, specially that dumb defective droids side-quest. Sadly even the baby raptors went absolutely nowhere at the end huh, either they left the poor animals to die in the cave or just ate them, who knows. Talk about a disconnected season…
Seeing the Dr Pershing’s storyline getting cut is the most heartbreaking to me. I thought that episode was so damn good, very mature star wars in the likes of Andor, showing the everyday people adapting to the current new regime.
And, most importantly, it showed us how Coruscant was working post RotJ, and what exactly was this New Republic deal, something that not even the sequel trilogy had. So IMHO it’s very very important not only to this series but to Star Wars as a whole.
Well considering these scenes are completely irrelevant to the show and it’s only point I’d to tell the audience that the NR is a bumbling organisation that doesn’t know what it’s doing and is about characters that at most are bit players before this, it should absolutely be cut.
I personally agree with Gemini that it would be neat to have the pershing plot perhaps cut out of the main film(s) but potentially in a side edit as a bonus for those of us that like having that story told at somepoint.
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Great suggestion, I fully agree that the world building and self contained storyline in the Pershing episode was some of the most well written and directed content in Season 3. I enjoyed it a great deal. It definitely doesn’t fit into the overall narrative of The Way of Mandalore due to there being no payoff at all, but I am 100% in favor of creating a mini “anthology” episode out of it as an optional bridge between book 5 & 6. I had it planned and spread out throughout my book 6 up until the last episode when it turned out that nothing in it had any impact sadly.
It’ll be a pretty easy edit to complete too. Probably just some minor alterations and a trim or two. I’ll dive into it after I release Book 5.
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Nice, Acbagel! I’m very happy that you liked the suggestion of the anthology side stories in the project! Other than the Dr Pershing/Coruscant bit, sooner or later there’s definitely going to be more nice content that just doesn’t fit well in the edited Books format.
Seeing the Dr Pershing’s storyline getting cut is the most heartbreaking to me. I thought that episode was so damn good, very mature star wars in the likes of Andor, showing the everyday people adapting to the current new regime.
And, most importantly, it showed us how Coruscant was working post RotJ, and what exactly was this New Republic deal, something that not even the sequel trilogy had. So IMHO it’s very very important not only to this series but to Star Wars as a whole.
Well considering these scenes are completely irrelevant to the show and it’s only point I’d to tell the audience that the NR is a bumbling organisation that doesn’t know what it’s doing and is about characters that at most are bit players before this, it should absolutely be cut.
I’d disagree you with, friend. Yup, they did exaggerate on the New Republic’s officers stupidness and naiveness (like that mon calamari technician casually and proudly lobotomizing him at the end, that was… something), but that was like 5% of the content. Besides, some slight trims and cuts could easily solve or at least greatly improve upon this matter.
Have you thought of potentially digitally adding Pedro Pascal’s head onto Din in the closing shot of season three? I do not know how hard this would be from a technological perspective, but from a character perspective and a story arc I think it could be a nice little payoff. From the end of season two, the show seemed to present conflict for Din in regards to his choice to take off his helmet to look at his child with “his own eyes” (it is like poetry). Then we found he had to atone for this by bathing in the water of Mandalore, kickstarting the quest in season three.
However by the time Bo joins the the covert/cult in season three, the rules seem to be bent to reunite Mandalore. The creed of not removing ones helmet seems to not be such a iron clad rule so much so that it is dropped as a recited part of the oath at the end of season three by the armorer. I believe this small addition could show Din has evolved as a character and while he is proud of his upbringing and mandalorian culture, he is no longer a slave to the covert/ cults strict rules. He can relax with his child/apprentice on his newly earned land in peace and turn over new leaf where he thinks for himself and forges his own path moving forward. What do you think?
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We aaaaaarrreeeeee LIIIIIIIIIVE!
Book 3 is ready to go. Sorry for the poor changelog formatting below. I’m on mobile and can’t make the necessary edits but I’ll clean it up tomorrow (EDIT: Fixed). I wanted to make sure I got this out ASAP though. This log isn’t even complete or 100% accurate as this film kept growing and growing as I edited (EDIT: Yes, it is complete now), so there will be some fun surprises throughout. Book 4 is making great progress too, should have a much shorter turnaround time!
Book 3: The Tribes
Mando Season 1: 9ABY, +7 years = 16ABY OneCanon (Black Fleet Crisis begins at the end of the year)
Mando Season 2: 10ABY, +7 years = 17ABY OneCanon (Black Fleet Crisis ends close to the start of the year)
BOBF Season 1: 11ABY, +7 years = 18ABY OneCanon (Corellian Crisis happens sometime during this year, but other than Luke’s cameo in BOBF these stories don’t seem to intertwine)
Mando Season 3: 12ABY, +7 years =19ABY OneCanon (Right after the Hand of Thrawn duology. Mando Chapter 23 provides the perfect context we need about Thrawn’s current whereabouts, and I am moving a scene from there into this Book 3.)
Ahsoka Season 1?: 12ABY, +7 years =19ABY
We can be certain that Thrawn is in the Ahsoka show, and that lines up with his established “wait ten years and I’ll be back” line that he tells Pellaeon. HoT doesn’t have specific dates attached to its events, but the plot does occur over a few months. Luke and Mara marry maybe a month after those books end. That leaves plenty of space for Mando S3 & Ahsoka S1 leading to the inevitable return of our boy in blue himself.
Have you thought of potentially digitally adding Pedro Pascal’s head onto Din in the closing shot of season three? I do not know how hard this would be from a technological perspective, but from a character perspective and a story arc I think it could be a nice little payoff. From the end of season two, the show seemed to present conflict for Din in regards to his choice to take off his helmet to look at his child with “his own eyes” (it is like poetry). Then we found he had to atone for this by bathing in the water of Mandalore, kickstarting the quest in season three.
That is a great idea. I’m not sure how realistic I could get it to look… But ya know, when I get there I’m going to try. I’m a fan of it storywise I think.
Gala, if you meant to send something with your message there it didn’t go through right. If you see this, try writing it again so I know what’s going on.
Thanks everyone, hope you enjoy this third film! Crossing my fingers there are no massive bugs, this one went through the ringer a few times before it felt right. Have fun!
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Would love a link, been waiting for this all week!
I would like a link for Book 3 at your earliest convenience.
I must say Acbagel, you must really be a glutton for punishment to draft that entire post on your phone. 😃
Link please!
Would love a link!
Sent to all, and fixed the changelog formatting above and added all the changes! (well… most of them)
I would like a link for Book 3 at your earliest convenience.
I must say Acbagel, you must really be a glutton for punishment to draft that entire post on your phone. 😃
Haha oh no I actually had it already written in a Google Doc, I just copied and pasted on mobile but couldn’t do all the formatting on there without spending 6 hours on it.
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Link’s please
Please send me the links when you have a chance. Looks great!
I, too, decided to watch through Book 5 first, since the Boba content was the worst and needed the most work.
Figured I’d share a few things I wrote down while watching:
Look at this, after 6 months I’m going back to make sure I find everyone’s feedback, so many thanks to all who have pitched in. Book 4 is already 95% good to go on the next update and is going through bug review right now, should be ready early next week, and I’m plugging through Book 5 as I write!
- At 13:45 there’s a weird fade out. It seems like the scene fading out, cuts off instead of fully fading into the next scene.
Fixed this fade
- Garsa Fwip’s “Apologies” line at 18:14 seems kind of awkwardly placed.
Indeed, it didn’t convey what it should have and I have thus removed it.
- I personally would love to see Boba’s missile fire at 19:28 removed, it always seemed stupid that he’d fire a shot at such close range. The only one who would probably get hurt from that is Fennec with no armor or shield. This isn’t a huge deal that’s worth changing, just something I’ve always thought.
Absolutely agree here too on review. I have removed this foolish decision.
- The scene from 20:25-20:33 could use some more work. The way the Gamorrean Guard puts the sword to the assassin’s throat, just to immediately take it away doesn’t seem natural. Also since you are implying the Rancor is already in the pit, I’d add some signs of life, i.e some Rancor growls or breathing when the gate begins to open. You could probably repurpose some of the Rancor’s breathing sounds from this scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qd4YGjNSTs
Re-edited this scene so Boba now trails off saying “Well, if he isn’t going to talk…” and then Fennec acts on her own to immediately dump him into the rancor pit (now filled with Rancor SFX).
- The transition at 1:01:56 feels abrupt. I’d fade it out slower if possible.
Fade fixed!
- The transition at 1:45:12 felt a little awkward. Jumping to Boba flying through the air in the middle of the fight just seems too sudden after the prior scene. I don’t know how you would be able to fix this considering we never see them come out though. It’d probably work better with a buffer between those scenes, but that would require rearranging other scenes to that part.
Ugh, this scene drove me nuts first time around. You’re right, there just isn’t any footage here because of the stupid Twi’lek’s insufferable commentary. However, your solution to rearranging other scenes to use as a spacer here actually did end up working out so that is what I have done!
Since I was watching this with more of a hawk-eyed view, I found an error that the creators left in during the Rancor fight with the second Scorpenek Droid. The scene at 1:56:51 shows the Rancor tore off one of it’s blaster arms, than at 1:57:00 the Rancor destroys the Scorpenek Droid’s eye. But the following scene at 1:57:15 shows that the Droid has both it’s blasters and it’s eye undamaged. Only for it to revert back to it’s damaged self in the following scene at 1:57:18. Not something that needs to be fixed, just found it funny I never noticed it lol!
Apparently I do not have an hawk’s eye, or even a bat’s eye, because I could not find this even going frame by frame. I’d like to fix it if I can find it. The timestamp didn’t line up since I already applied the above changes and I just couldn’t find what you were talking about here. If you can timestamp the Disney+ show one with this bug I’ll try to fix it in mine.
All around great job with this! I found this far more enjoyable than the original content. I’ll wait to see you’re newly improved Book 1 and 2 before watching those episodes, but I’m excited to dive into the others!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed this and I look forward to you seeing the updated one soon.
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Really excited to check out the new version when it’s available! I’ll try to go through and re-timestamp the scenes I was talking about with the error. It’s really not a huge issue like I said lol. I’d also love to check out Book 3!
I decided to throw a quick clip together to show the Scorpenek Droid error: https://vimeo.com/822212271
The rancor has already ripped off one of the blaster arms and destroyed the eye of the droid. Then when he throws it to the ground, it reverts back to having both it’s blaster arms and eye while it shuffles around on the floor. Only for it to again revert back to damaged once the Rancor rips the other blaster arm off.
Wow just wow!! The edit list is insane…I’m really excited to watch this.
Question…are the versions of the books you’ve worked on final or are those yet to come? I’ve been keeping each version you’ve released just so I can study the changes you’ve made, it’s a great progression in story telling. I’d like a link to your newest version please. I didn’t have plans tonight after I went to see Return of the Jedi in theaters again (I’ve already went to 4 showings, 3 more to go) now I have this to look forward to, thank you sir.
I decided to throw a quick clip together to show the Scorpenek Droid error: https://vimeo.com/822212271
The rancor has already ripped off one of the blaster arms and destroyed the eye of the droid. Then when he throws it to the ground, it reverts back to having both it’s blaster arms and eye while it shuffles around on the floor. Only for it to again revert back to damaged once the Rancor rips the other blaster arm off.
Nice! That’s it, thanks so much. Great find, I’ll look for a way to address that.
Wow just wow!! The edit list is insane…I’m really excited to watch this.
Question…are the versions of the books you’ve worked on final or are those yet to come? I’ve been keeping each version you’ve released just so I can study the changes you’ve made, it’s a great progression in story telling. I’d like a link to your newest version please. I didn’t have plans tonight after I went to see Return of the Jedi in theaters again (I’ve already went to 4 showings, 3 more to go) now I have this to look forward to, thank you sir.
Awesome, sending you a DM now! Hope you enjoy it.
Haha wow, that’s a lot of RotJ! But nothing at all wrong with that. I saw a video of people leaving the RotJ showing for the first time back in '83, and the energy and reactions coming out of there were incredible. So enthused and satisfied, what a cool time.
This v3 update of The Way of Mandalore will be pretty much the final version. At some point in the future, I will go back through and upgrade the edits to 4k and maybe make some tiny changes, but this update is basically finalized in terms of my storytelling. Books 1-3 are updated and out now, Book 4 should actually be ready tomorrow, and then 5/6 sometime in May.
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