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Post #1533299

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G&G-Fan
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What do you think of The Prequel Trilogy? A general discussion.
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11-Apr-2023, 11:57 PM

Archivist99 said:

I just don’t agree. Blowing up a planet is more what you are describing, evil but calculated. As for the board room scene, I disagree. Those guys seem like some of the biggest guys in the Empire, given the discussion. Vader personally might have no use for Motti, but Tarkin clearly does.

Vader is second in-command. Literally the only person that supersedes him in rank is the Emperor.

Micheal Corleone also had a very different childhood. Anakin was the slave son of a single mother, Michael was the child of a powerful family. Your idea of Anakin being like Michael Corleone doesn’t really jive with anything i’d want for the character. Also, Corleone isn’t really anything like what you seem like you wish Anakin was, either. I haven’t seen those movies in a while, but Michael doesn’t really have the Vader traits that you have mentioned before, other than being less hair trigger than Anakin in the films.

Anakin’s past was worse then Michael’s, therefore he has more of a reason to have a colder, hardened personality. He was a slave. He represses his emotions because he has to look tough to hide the fact that on the inside he’s an emotional mess.

That’s the thing that’s so weird to me. Anakin’s supposed to be this guy that represses his emotions, but instead he’ll go on long emotional rants to the first person who will listen. His second conversation with Padme he’s ranting about Obi-Wan when she didn’t even ask.

Also Michael was in the military and was desensitized to his family’s business since he grew up around them, which is part of why he’s so cold.

Michael Corleone is so much like Darth Vader it’s crazy. He’s cold, collected, calculating, ruthless, reserved, confident, authoritative, possessive, and loves revenge and getting back at people he hates. And his anger is a lot like Vader’s. Michael does lose his cool sometimes, but it’s in a lot of the same way Vader would: short bursts. He will yell when he’s extremely stressed, like at Tom Hagen when he finds out about the “miscarriage”. Or when he yells about the ambush on his home to Pentangeli. A lot like Vader barking at his troops in the beginning of ANH.

I also would not change Anakin’s ages in the films. The story is about Anakin’s insecurities being the cause of his issues. Luke’s struggles were lesser by design as the story isn’t about Luke turning evil.

You can’t have Anakin be a 19 year old slave who’s mom dies? Then a 22 year old Jedi Knight at the beginning of the second movie (Luke was already a great high ranking rebel soldier at the beginning of ESB) who then descends towards the dark side slowly?

You’re acting like Anakin has to be young to have the same insecurities.

That isn’t who he tries to be though. “I want more, but I know I shouldn’t”. That side of himself only truly comes out once he stops trying to fight it. He’s arrogant, but he is also aware that a lot of his thoughts are problematic and tries to rise above them. Until he doesn’t.

That’s a good element of the character, but we should see him giving into that more, even if he feels guilty. That need to be dominant and have power should become greater and greater as he loses himself more and more.

It’s less drastic than Luke between 5 and 6 honestly.

Nah, because Luke is still a pretty collected guy capable of leading troops at the beginning of ESB. He just has to overcome his recklessness. And he has at the beginning of ROTJ, but not entirely. He still gets himself stuck in the Rancor pit and lashes out at Vader.

It might seem like he’s completely transformed when he first appears but as time goes on it’s pretty obvious he’s still the same guy.

Because of the rule of two, as well as the fact that Sidious who is rather exceptional as a Sith who is very much a long term planner, allowed Vader to flourish in a locked down galaxy that is perfect for a violent broken man like Vader.

Regardless, Vader’s anger never gets in the way of the job. Even in ESB when he kills two officers, there’s always someone to take their place.

Of course, and that’s part of the horrible situation that Anakin finds himself in. But he already sold out Palp to the Jedi and tried to do the right thing once. He makes his choice in the scene in the council chambers to side with Palp rather than do the right thing for the second time.

The net loss is far too great if it turns out Plagueis’ secret isn’t real. Anakin doesn’t consider that if he commits genocide and even kills his best buddy Obi-Wan, only for Plagueis’ secret to either be lost or not even exist, then there was literally no point to anything.