Emre, are you trolling? G&G’s point seems crystal clear, are you purposefully misunderstanding?
No, I don’t think he is. Though he may be confused by G&G-Fan’s claim? I was.
If you read G&G-Fan’s original post on this…
Regarding the thing about Vader always being Luke’s father, I found some info about why Lucas might have said this.
George Lucas said:
“Well, to be very honest with you, when I wrote the very very first script it was about Annikin Starkiller and his two kids. And, uh, he was a rogue Jedi, and there were remnants of that [draft] that found its way into the final Star Wars.”
-MovieFone Unscripted, 2005So from a certain point of view, Vader was always gonna be Luke’s father. It was just discarded but then we ended up getting something that more resembled the original idea.
Well, if you look at George’s quote in the interview (and the linked video) it certainly does not add up to what we now know from the early script drafts. As we are in a thread where citations and evidence are key, and used to back up claims, it does seem a strange choice of information for G&G-Fan to use to then claim “Vader was always gonna be Luke’s father”, or for any other claim.
Emre asks for a link to this “very very first script” to further understand what G&G-Fan means, but isn’t given one. So Emre explains his understanding and thoughts, and lets G&G-Fan know the early draft scripts, “The Star Wars” 2014 comic, and The Secret History of Star Wars book are all good sources of further information.
Emre may be confused? He did say he was. I know I was! I’m sure Emre will speak for himself, but that isn’t trolling.
Bu hey, we got some more information on the “evolution of Vader” in this thread, being formed from with at least 4 separate characters throughout the various draft scripts, a reminder of the significance on that 2nd draft of Empire Strikes Back, and thanks to G&G-Fan we also have another source with George being on record claiming things that “does not hold up well to scrutiny at all”. Which fits right in with this thread, along with all the other sources highlighting George being an unreliable narrator and revisionist. In this case, literally.
I love this thread!