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Missing frames: Travelling from Tattooine to the Death Star? Millenium falcon Leaves Death Star?

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This is something that I am sort of perplexed by because yes the special effects are there but are they all there? Or are we missing a scene?

When the star destroyer leaves tattooine this is the same footage as the star destroyer initially in space before it changes angle to behind the star destroyer.

So For Arrival at the death Star

The thing is that sort of makes me think. The star destroyer model should travel past camera using the footage present with the frames of the model leaving tattooine. Then cut to the existing shot of the Star Destroyer going towards the death star. This is Star Wars Visual Language however it cut’s short and does not do this.

If you look at the shot of Star destroyer travelling towards the death star it also seems to suddenly speed up at one point.

This may mean leaving Tattoine has cut Frames and arriving at the death star should be one shot and not 2?

Or Arriving at the Death Star should have an initial shot of something else and then travelling to the death star?

Is it possible that only the frames of Leaving Tattooine should be the Paired shot with arrival at Death Star?

I don’t mind the whole re-used fottage I grew up with that and it does not bother me but I do wonder if the Frame counts / Speed is correct?

When the Milllenium leaves the death star the shot before we cut to Luke and Leia consoling him for the loss of ben. You can hear in the soundmix over the chessboard the remnant of of the falcon’s engines then a noticeable “pop” carried over for the missing frames here. So I believe that was meant to be a fly past camera and possibly off and away into space.

What do you think?

Falcon Leaves the Death star is I think is Missing Frames.

But I am really not sure when it comes to the whole star destroyer leaving tattoine and Arrival at the Death Star… Is the Special effects all there but not constructed properly or are we missing something else? Is something being hidden in the way that it is constructed? And if so any idea what that something is?

Do you feel something is missing or it is all there?

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I took a look at the star destroyer arriving at the death star.

The movie script states in is only one shot which would have been on the list of shots to create for the film.

So I wiped from ben Kenobi to the star destroyerand put it at 60% speed as a guess.

It came in exactly at 60% speed for frames to fill the space. It does not look jumpy or choppy either which I was surprised about. But it always looked like it was sped up anyway.

It feels more powerful and purposefull having only one scene and I think this is or was the intention of the scene. The two scenes never worked together either.

Star Destroyer Leaving tattooine is fine no need to now consider this as arriving at the death star works far better with one shot.

Now having done this there is a left over shot of a star destroyer…

When the Falcon leaves tattooine this is I believe the missing star destroyer shot that chases the falcon Before we see two more coming in closer to tattooine.

This is not in the script but it has to be this as there is no other place it could feasibly go.

So this I would consider now a solved issue. This also would maintain the visual language of the film in a consistant fashion and put the scene that never worked back where it is supposed to go.

Chewbacca lifting up his arm was inserted to this sequence but Chewie lifting his arm was meant to be when Han talks about spotting the sentry ships and Chewie is then paired with the side view of the falcon flying which also does not appear in the script.

So a couple of extra shots were added in development of these scenes. However they did not end up where they were designed to be placed in the film.

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Remember that for Star Wars (1977) they were creating the visual language that we have become used to. If you find something that does not fit, it likely means that it was done on a budget and schedule and may not fit quite what you think the rest of the saga follows. It was first so Lucas was making this all up as he went. That film has more visual gaffs than the others. So what you have noted is not at all surprising.

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Yes that is considered that it is by the time re-release trailers pop up that we start to see the visual language of ESB of the past camera towards and off away from camera the opposite direction in trailers.

Star wars very much used straight shots either at or away from camera and would crash cut or hard cut.

This does indeed follow that principle.

The Falcon Leaving the Death star which ends abruptly with a hiss and a pop in the soundmix you could be correct it was perhaps one shot that was to hold on the matte painting of the death star a while letting sound do the work.

It’s good to have that pop as a reference point. However I have not attempted to animate the last frame of the falcon to go past camera or anything just yet. I have no idea how many frames it would be until I count that out from last frame of Falcon to the audible “pop”.