The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released) — Page 627

Hey I could try folding that in; I know the mix was already sorta crowded, though. But I like it.

Since there’s a little chat of an updated version lately, and I’ve just rewatched the trilogy a couple of times, some thoughts/wishes for consideration:

• Back in the day there was some talk of different colour schemes for new planets on familiar biomes. For my money I’d be interested in a more red/purple Pasaana desert, and maybe a more autumnal or pastel Ajan Kloss.
• We also talked about Rey’s crackly saber actually shorting out at some point - did anything get finished there?
• Audio effects suggesting that force healing (“the power to prevent those we love from death”) is more of a darkside power could help explain why it’s not more commonly known or used.
• I’d love to have Kylo tell Han’s ghost/vision/memory “I love you” before Han replies “I know”, preceding Kylo throwing away his saber. Poetry yes, but also a beautiful inversion of how it was first used.
• As others have mentioned, it’d be nice to have C-3PO’s memory stay wiped.
• A longshot that’s likely dependent on AI, but possibly the only opportunity to answer “a good question for another time” might be to have Lando talk to Maz during the finale celebrations, perhaps: “You did a great job taking care of that lightsaber I entrusted to you, Maz”.
• To make the Dyad feel more deliberately planned, I’d be interested to see the image from TLJ of the black/white yinyang being from the stone pool in Luke’s temple flash up at a sensible point - “we’ve become a Dyad” perhaps?
• The Jedi texts also provide an opportunity to imply in-universe existence of both Dyads (an image like the yinyang being?) and soul transferrence (though I appreciate that’s more of a Sith power), via a method similar to Neverargreat’s drawing of Rey’s island from TFA:Starlight
• Might there be a way to improve on “I made Snoke”? Perhaps “I trained Snoke. A puppet designed to make you who I needed you to be.”?
• I’d remove the Rey/Kylo kiss, and Lando’s weird scene with Jannah, but I’m sure you’ve got a good reason for keeping those.
• It’d also be nice to, via VFX, see a bit more of the First Order merged with the Final Order - via the odd shot of First Order white stormtroopers, officers, and starships in appropriate shots.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

• Might there be a way to improve on “I made Snoke”? Perhaps “I trained Snoke. A puppet designed to make you who I needed you to be.”?

As I mentioned in a previous post, a Palpy voice clone is sadly not very likely to be possible.

That’s unfortunate that Palpy isn’t likely. It could be a huge deal to get him to say the “more than a clone less than a man” line.

EddieDean said:

Since there’s a little chat of an updated version lately, and I’ve just rewatched the trilogy a couple of times, some thoughts/wishes for consideration:

• Back in the day there was some talk of different colour schemes for new planets on familiar biomes. For my money I’d be interested in a more red/purple Pasaana desert, and maybe a more autumnal or pastel Ajan Kloss.

I’d be open to it but couldn’t make it happen myself. I don’t feel a need for this to happen c though.

• We also talked about Rey’s crackly saber actually shorting out at some point - did anything get finished there?

I think MR was working on it but it never materialized. It’d be cool to have if possible, but okay if not.

• Audio effects suggesting that force healing (“the power to prevent those we love from death”) is more of a darkside power could help explain why it’s not more commonly known or used.

I don’t think that’d be a good idea, as it reads as a kindly or self-sacrificing thing to do which characters always appear “good” when doing.

• I’d love to have Kylo tell Han’s ghost/vision/memory “I love you” before Han replies “I know”, preceding Kylo throwing away his saber. Poetry yes, but also a beautiful inversion of how it was first used.

I prefer it the way it is. Sublime.

• As others have mentioned, it’d be nice to have C-3PO’s memory stay wiped.

If it feels seamless and smooth, I agree.

• A longshot that’s likely dependent on AI, but possibly the only opportunity to answer “a good question for another time” might be to have Lando talk to Maz during the finale celebrations, perhaps: “You did a great job taking care of that lightsaber I entrusted to you, Maz”.

That wouldn’t do anything to answer the question of how it was recovered and I’m not sure how you’d mix that in anyway.

• To make the Dyad feel more deliberately planned, I’d be interested to see the image from TLJ of the black/white yinyang being from the stone pool in Luke’s temple flash up at a sensible point - “we’ve become a Dyad” perhaps?

The only occasions in the movie that it would feel natural would be removed from that context.

• The Jedi texts also provide an opportunity to imply in-universe existence of both Dyads (an image like the yinyang being?) and soul transferrence (though I appreciate that’s more of a Sith power), via a method similar to Neverargreat’s drawing of Rey’s island from TFA:Starlight

Do we get a look at multiple pages of the book, or just the one with a drawing of a wayfinder? If there’s another page visible and someone wanted to add a yin-yang, I could use it. But I don’t have any strong feelings on this one.

• Might there be a way to improve on “I made Snoke”? Perhaps “I trained Snoke. A puppet designed to make you who I needed you to be.”?

Hard to imagine an AI delivering his dialogue in a theatrical way. Also, I like the ambiguity of “I made Snoke,” so it works well with this edit’s implication and any subsequent SW material.

• I’d remove the Rey/Kylo kiss, and Lando’s weird scene with Jannah, but I’m sure you’ve got a good reason for keeping those.

It’s the only scrap of sex we get in the whole trilogy, and culminates their double orbit. Wouldn’t want to remove Lando and Jannah, though it’d make more sense if we had the deleted scene of Lando describing losing a daughter.

• It’d also be nice to, via VFX, see a bit more of the First Order merged with the Final Order - via the odd shot of First Order white stormtroopers, officers, and starships in appropriate shots.

Yeah, it hurts my brain to try to untangle the plot mechanics involved in the First and Final Orders, at least as we’ve augmented their relationship somewhat. Ideally Palpatine and his cultists should be depicted to be as small as possible, with their Imperial stockpile being their ace in the hole. And Palpatine makes his play to bring the First Order under his control, having set it up by proxy. In TROS it seems like Palpatine reveals himself, saying “lol wow look how much I have, makes the First Order seem puny” and not “now I claim the First Order I set up in order to man this fleet.”

I’d say “he’s too dangerous” works best since it is in the novel.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

It sounds perfect to me: https://streamable.com/1v7nuf

perhaps if rey’s reaction shot can be enlongated a bit (via frame interpolation or smth) the little moment of silence can improve the natural flow of the line

It sounds like someone is punching in dialogue that doesn’t quite match up. I’d add slight outdoor reverb to the new voice clip and EQ it as professionally as possible. Then I’d slightly degrade the quality (with bad EQ) of her actual dialogue and add the same reverb effect. This can make all the dialogue clips gradually sound similar enough so it doesn’t sound like a jarring add in.

littlev87 said:

Anyone try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JruKb-Zeze8 ?

Nice. If C.F. is in that celebrity AI vault it could sound amazing. But really having TOO much dialogue every time her back is to the camera gets just plain silly.

Let’s have AI Leia cough and chuckle

I still think this moment works better without that new line. Actions speak louder than words.