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Movie production updates for Terminator 4 And Star Trek XI

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It appears that although on t.v. Jim Cameron said he was going to do T4, it's listed Currently in Production on the internet movie database

under the direction of Jonathan Mostow who did T3.

Arnold has not been confirmed for the role, their are rumors on the internet movie database that they are casting a new terminator.

It's supposed to come out in 2006 according to that website and they are shooting now.



In other News Star Trek XI or rather star trek 11: The Beginning, is coming out holiday 2007.

It now has the director of Wrath of Khan and The undiscovered country (NIck Meyer) attached to it, and yes it is a prequel of unknowns.

Supposed to be about the wars between Earth and Romulas.

They are just having Nicholas Meyer shoot the damn thing though.

I don't think he has any creative involvement since it is a story by rick berman and Erik Jendresen, maybe he'll have third credit as a story/ script consult but that is probalbly it.

I think this is a ploy to get trek fans back into theaters so they can make money. Just by having meyer involved in any capacity,

since he directed the mother of all star trek films, The wrath of Khan.

Berman tried this before by trying to get Leonard Nimoy to direct Generations but have no creative input, just a well known name in trek fandom to sell the picture.

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Arnold has not been confirmed for the role, their are rumors on the internet movie database that they are casting a new terminator

if they do, it will fail.

In other News Star Trek XI or rather star trek 11: The Beginning, is coming out holiday 2007


*detects flop.*
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If Nicholas Meyer is involved, the next Trek film might be a success.

Given his talent, I find it hard to believe he'll direct without being able to offer any creative input. I can't see him signing on with one hand tied behind his back. What would he get out of it?
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Nicholas Meyer is pure speculation at the moment. It's only on IMDB, so that very well could be fan speculation that got put up.

IMDB is a tertiary source, I don't trust it unless the data has been confirmed elsewhere.

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I read an interview with William Shatner this very morning. He has apparently written a book about Kirk and Spock in their teen days and he thinks that is the way the movies should go.

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No more Terminators. Part 3 was bad enough. Leave it at pt. 2 with the great unknown ending it had.

Most people probably won't agree with me, but I liked all of the TNG movies from Generations to Nemesis. Some of the movies had weaker parts than others, but they were all enjoyable, though I would say Insurrection would be the weakest.

But at this point every single timeline of Federation development has pretty much been covered. Why do another movie? I'm guessing they'll be using the Enterprise cast for this. But the Federation/Romulan war doesn't really seem like it would be that interesting. The Federation/Klingon war IMO would be a lot better.
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I agree. Terminator 3 has already destroyed everything that was good about the terminator movies. I don't see how a fourth can do any good. Leave it at 2, and pretend three never happened. That way you have an abigous ending, and the hope that 2 gave for the future. Otherwise, all the actions of the first two are almost pointless.
As for Star Trek 11, it depends on what cast they go with. If they do Star Trek: Enterprise as the cast, it will bomb. That show had few fans, even amoung the hardest-core of trekkies. Another Next-Generation movie can work, if you could get the cast back, but I think that they have all said they are through with Star Trek. So the only way to make it any good, that I can think of, would be a Voyager movie. Honestly, I never really got into DS9, and so I can't really comment on a DS9 movie.
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It might be nice to tie up some of the loose ends created by the series finale of DS9. I just don't see any Star Trek movie being successful right now.
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Yeah, why do most of the odd numbered Star Trek movies suck?
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News confirms that the Terminator tv series "The Sarah Connor Chronicles" will be made.
http://joblo.com/index.php?id=12642
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=16251

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Originally posted by: maurice2029
News confirms that the Terminator tv series "The Sarah Connor Chronicles" will be made.
http://joblo.com/index.php?id=12642
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=16251


I heard that too. All I can say is "Why?" Isn't this a little a late in the game? Shouldn't they have tried this "Sarah Connor Chronicles" thing back when the Terminator films were more relevant, more popular?

As to why "most" of the odd numbered Star Trek films "Suck", I can't give you an answer Warbler. I still think "Motion Picture" had some great special effects work though, even if it wasn't the best of the Treks.
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I agree with Han SoloVs Indiana Jones. Why do this TV show now? They've already ruined the Terminator series with T3. I don't see how they can save it, short of pretending T3 didn't happen, like Superman Returns pretended Superman III and IV didn't happen. Or maybe having the past change somehow to where T3 cannot occur.
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This thread should be renamed the "Development Hell" thread. Indie 4, Terminator 4, the new Jurassic Park, The Hobbit, so many movies that will probably never see the light of day.
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Originally posted by: Number20
Another Next-Generation movie can work, if you could get the cast back, but I think that they have all said they are through with Star Trek.
They are also getting too old IMO. The last episode of TNG made a point of showing that Data does not age, yet Brent Spiner continues to develop wrinkles, etc - although that's a moot point because they killed Data in Nemesis. Jonathan Frakes is getting on a bit too (I met him during post production of Thunderbird and he seemed kinda hunched and was limping - great guy though, one of the nicest movie people I've met). The only member of the cast who seems to never age is Patrick Stewart - I saw him do a one man version of a christmas carol in London on Christmas eve and he looked thhe same as he always does (the show was great too, btw).

Having said all that, I would still really like to see another TNG movie, but that's just me.

EDIT: I agree with everyone about the Terminator series though: 3 never happened and we sure as hell don't want (or need) a 4th.

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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
They are also getting too old IMO. The last episode of TNG made a point of showing that Data does not age, yet Brent Spiner continues to develop wrinkles, etc - although that's a moot point because they killed Data in Nemesis.


Not really. As if the movie weren't enough of a Khan ripoff already, they pulled a Spock/Bones with Data/B4. They could bring him back if they wanted to.

TOS cast members were making ST movies into their sixties, so I wouldn't mind another adventure with Picard and Co. They could probably work the same CG magic on Spiner that they did with Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan in X3 for their younger days, although doing that throughout a whole film for one character might be prohibitively expensive.

Also, fuck Berman and what he's done to Gene Roddenberry's vision.
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Originally posted by: Jay
Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
They are also getting too old IMO. The last episode of TNG made a point of showing that Data does not age, yet Brent Spiner continues to develop wrinkles, etc - although that's a moot point because they killed Data in Nemesis.


Not really. As if the movie weren't enough of a Khan ripoff already, they pulled a Spock/Bones with Data/B4. They could bring him back if they wanted to.

TOS cast members were making ST movies into their sixties, so I wouldn't mind another adventure with Picard and Co. They could probably work the same CG magic on Spiner that they did with Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan in X3 for their younger days, although doing that throughout a whole film for one character might be prohibitively expensive.

Also, fuck Berman and what he's done to Gene Roddenberry's vision.


I agree with Jay here. They put the Data/B4 thing in as a loophole for bringing Data back, just as they did the Spock/McCoy mind-meld as a loophole if/when Leonard Nimoy agreed to come back for III. TNG cast isn't too old yet. Data is a special problem, but might be able to be dealt with, either from makeup/cg or maybe a plot device.
Besides the difficulty of getting the cast of TNG back for another film, I'm kinda worried that they seem to be out of new stories for them. Insurrection was terrible, and Nemesis was a rewrite of Wrath of Khan.
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My first reaction was. A TV serie..? What the f**k?!
Don't know what to think about it. I have a feeling they will screw it up eventually. I'm thinking back of the Robocop Prime Detective tv serie. Not a big hit, it was medium, but I believe the term "medium" is not good enough for the Terminator saga. The worst niveau of the Terminator movies should be "good".

And another actor that plays John Connor... Another actrice for Sarah Connor...

I have a feeling this is gonna suck. Why? Please no more returning Terminators through time, T3 doesn't mention it and yet another Terminator send back through time sounds plain stupid. How many times is SKYNET gonna try? So what else do we've got left? John and Sarah trainings, together with Mexican/Spanish people. Okay, but not interesting enough for a tv serie. What are they gonna do besides training, trying to blow up computer factories? I'm not sure, T3 doesn't hint this, plus the important computerfactory (Cyberdyne) was already destroyed at the end of T2. So what kind of content do they wanna show us that is good enough for the Terminator saga, and ofcourse, us, the Terminator fans....?

Just continue with T4!!!

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Originally posted by: Jay
Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
They are also getting too old IMO. The last episode of TNG made a point of showing that Data does not age, yet Brent Spiner continues to develop wrinkles, etc - although that's a moot point because they killed Data in Nemesis.


Not really. As if the movie weren't enough of a Khan ripoff already, they pulled a Spock/Bones with Data/B4. They could bring him back if they wanted to.

TOS cast members were making ST movies into their sixties, so I wouldn't mind another adventure with Picard and Co. They could probably work the same CG magic on Spiner that they did with Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan in X3 for their younger days, although doing that throughout a whole film for one character might be prohibitively expensive.

Also, fuck Berman and what he's done to Gene Roddenberry's vision.


Well, all things considered, Gene Roddenbury's vision was a bit naive to begin with, but I agree that Berman is far worse.

I think if The Next Generation crew has any more adventures they'll be in a medium other than live action.

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Rodenberry's vision, aside from being naive, is what destroyed the franchise. A story in which none of the characters are supposed to be in conflict with eachother because of the utopia the Federation has wrought leaves very little room for character development. Also, the "reset button" at the end of every episode was SO annoying.
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Originally posted by: JediSage
Rodenberry's vision, aside from being naive, is what destroyed the franchise. A story in which none of the characters are supposed to be in conflict with eachother because of the utopia the Federation has wrought leaves very little room for character development. Also, the "reset button" at the end of every episode was SO annoying.


I've been watching the TNG box sets recently (working on season 5 now), and there's plenty of conflict between various characters--even within the Federation itself.

It does tend to be episodic, but watching the show still has its rewards.
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Well, TNG's main characters weren't allowed to have flaws like the TOS characters had, with perhaps the exception of the short-lived Dr. Polawski's racism against Data. That must have been difficult on the writers in and of itself. (Picard, of course, had that whole Borg-hate thing going on in First Contact, but it was also resolved in that same movie.)

I think they should do a series/episode/movie or something that reveals that the veniere of utopia in the Federation isn't as legitimate as they'd have you believe, sparking some kind of civil war that ultimately makes the Federation stronger in the long run.

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Originally posted by: ricarleite
This thread should be renamed the "Development Hell" thread. Indie 4, Terminator 4, the new Jurassic Park, The Hobbit, so many movies that will probably never see the light of day.


Most of which I certainly hope never see the light of day - except for the Hobbit. I wouldn't mind a well done Hobbit adaptation.
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Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
Originally posted by: ricarleite
This thread should be renamed the "Development Hell" thread. Indie 4, Terminator 4, the new Jurassic Park, The Hobbit, so many movies that will probably never see the light of day.


Most of which I certainly hope never see the light of day - except for the Hobbit. I wouldn't mind a well done Hobbit adaptation.


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Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
Originally posted by: ricarleite
This thread should be renamed the "Development Hell" thread. Indie 4, Terminator 4, the new Jurassic Park, The Hobbit, so many movies that will probably never see the light of day.


Most of which I certainly hope never see the light of day - except for the Hobbit. I wouldn't mind a well done Hobbit adaptation.


I very much want to see a Peter Jackson Hobbit film. Cameron wrapped up the T films with a ribbon and bow in T2, JPIII was quite enough, thank you. And Indy 4? Um, no thank. I'll go watch my Raiders disc. I'm done with LFL until I see a proper OOT DVD release. Indy might chnge my mind, but only once.

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