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Post #1521736

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pittrek
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Star Trek: The Original Series preservation (a WIP)
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Date created
30-Jan-2023, 2:47 PM

OK guys, some of you know who I am, some of you don’t - long story short I run https://www.youtube.com/user/TrekkieChannel and the most popular videos there are the comparison videos. I have compared all different versions, all different transfers etc. but I never could compare the audio mixes, since I always used to watch TOS dubbed - the first time I have seen TOS in English was on the 2004 DVD set. However a few comments

  • the BD set does NOT contain the “original” broadcast versions, at least in the sense that they are DIFFERENT cuts from the 2004 PAL DVD releases. Some differences from memory - in The Naked Time the Blu-ray uses the fixed effects, the DVD uses the wrong shots of the planet (the shots start with black space and after a few frames the planet appears). All episodes of season 1 have now on the Blu-ray the same opening credits, the same theme take and Shatner’s speech, the DVD has different credits for each of the first batch of the episodes. WNMHGB - DVD has “Leonard Nimoy”, BD has “Also staring Leonard Nimoy”, The Man Trap - DVD has “Star Trek created by Gene Roddenberry”, Blu-ray has “Star Trek”. DVD has “William Shatner”, BD has “Staring William Shatner”, Leonard Nimoy is again “Also Staring” in the BD but not the DVD, and the DVD has a different take of the theme. And so on, you get the picture.
  • the Roddenbery Vault BD “original” versions are again NOT original. The one thing I noticed without any other proper comparison is that the Gorn blinks in the “original” version, which of course is wrong.
  • I have the 2007-2008 UK DVDs but I haven’t found any differences to the 2004 DVD set to be honest, but again - I’m not good at noticing audio changes.
  • The Cage had much more versions - the full color version which was shown to NBC and is ultimately lost, the black and white copy which is the longest available version (and my favorite) but it misses a few seconds (at least the copy I have, according to the audio recordings Gene’s copy which he used to show was complete so this might be simply a case of a film print detoriating so much that a few seconds could not be saved). Then there is The Menagerie, which features 2 shots of Vina dancing, which were NOT RELEASED on ANY other future version and are not even on the black and white cut, so I don’t know what is the source for The Menagerie. Then there is the 1986 hybrid color/black and white version. After Bob Furmanek found the trims (but obviously not ALL of them), they released the full color version in 1988, which features some slowed down footage, then there is the 2001 DVD version which features some re-recorded music and some new unnecessary censorship, the 2009 “original” version ommits even more seconds thanks to even more pointless censorship and changes the order of the shots and there is also the version with new CGI effects

I plan to completely re-do all of the old comparison videos and make them the defnitive videos containing all changes, so if this project isn’t dead, any information (and evidence in form of a sound clip) of audio changes would be amazing