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What changes would you make to the Prequels?

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What changes would you make to the Prequels movies?
For example i would make the Clones not being Boba Fett Clones and that Jango would not have any relationship with Boba i liked the original story of Boba Fett more with him being a Random Bounty Hunter with the name of Jaster Mereel

i would make Anakin more older i would look for actors who are more similar to Sebastian Shaw and Alec Guinness i like Hayden Christensen and Ewan Mcgregor but sometimes i feel like their versions of the characters dont look anything like the OT versions

Owen Lars would have a greater role in the Prequels it seems that he knew Anakin and Obi Wan too well and in Lucas Prequels he doesnt even know Anakin and Obi Wan that good with they almost practically strangers to him i would make Owen Lars to be a former Republic Soldier or something like that and be friends with Anakin and Obi Wan

the Empire will rule for more than 19 years in the OT Han Solo does not remember the Jedi believing them to be a Myth so they must have disappeared for more than 19 years ago in Lucas Prequels everyone knew the Jedi with them being authority figures

Tatooine would not be a special place and would not appear in my version of the Prequels that would not be the place where Anakin born it was just a Random Planet in the Galaxy

i probably wouldnt have created a Sith character like Dooku and Darth Maul the Clones would be the Main Villains and these would be more similar to the Yuuzhan Vong

Yoda would not be a Jedi Grand Master or a Warrior he would just be a Random Jedi who survived the Purge

Anakin would not be a Chosen One and he had a Father like anyone else he was just a powerful and smart Jedi

What changes you will make to the Prequels?

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Yoda doesn’t appear at all, but is talked about a lot, being a living legend with unknown current whereabouts. Obi-Wan is kind of a big deal in the Jedi order as he has been trained by Yoda himself. Anakin and Obi-Wan may actually only be supporting characters in this story to preserve the surprise reveals of the OT. Obi-Wan takes multiple apprentices during the prequel trilogy.

At least three decades separate the Clone Wars from the OT and it is actually the bad guys who start with the cloning, creating themselves an army of mutants of all shapes and sizes to combat the Republic and its Jedi. The Clone Wars is actually a series of conflicts, not just one war.

Cloning, especially for military purposes, is generally considered unethical. However, chancellor Palpatine shows a remarkable interest in the technology. Shortly after the discovery of his own DNA in a cloning laboratory on enemy territory – which proves to the Jedi he has been orchestrating the war all along – he manipulates most of the Republic military into turning against the Jedi and declares himself the Emperor. All (or nearly all) of the cloning facilities are however destroyed during this period. Palpatine’s possible Force-sensitivity is suggested, but is never confirmed.

Most of the antagonist figureheads – some of whom are Force-sensitive – are interested in the cloning technology as a means to achieve immortality. Others are however motivated mostly by ideology or greed.

The Jedi are not celibate monks and they don’t wear Tatooine hermit robes. Leia’s mother doesn’t die immediately after giving birth. No Boba Fett origin story and no Chewbacca. The Jedi are very much present throughout the prequels, but many of the main characters are not Force-users – there’s the military, politicians, and common people of many different trades and convictions. Bail Organa plays a prominent role.

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My version of the Jedi would be more decentralized and scattered throughout the galaxy. They’d be like the Dunedain Rangers from LOTR, and would be more low-profile and not really in the public eye. Obi-Wan would be a general in the service of House Organa of Alderaan, but it wouldn’t be a normal thing for a Jedi to be a general.

I’d delete Qui-Gon entirely and merge all his character traits into Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan discovers a 19-year-old Anakin on Tatooine. I’d also incorporate Owen Lars into Anakin’s life on Tatooine.

The Clone Wars would start in Episode I, and would be multiple conflicts spread throughout the galaxy, and the clones would be attacking the Republic. Mandalorian clones, maybe.

I’d give Tarkin a role in the prequels, and show his rise to prominence.

And most importantly, I’d spend a lot more time fleshing out Anakin and Obi-Wan’s friendship and making their bond compelling. Also, Padme would live at the end, and Anakin would fall into a lava pit in a way that Obi-Wan can’t save him.

But we can’t turn back. Fear is their greatest defense. I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust. And what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault.

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Episode I would be set in 37 BBY. As the Galactic Civil War was in the OT, the Clone Wars would be introduced in medias res. At this late stage, the Clone Wars is primarily between the Republic and Mandalorian Death Watch, a terrorist faction which rose to power after displacing the previous pacifist government on Mandalore, but the wars began as localized skirmishes between revolutionary syndicalist movements and corporations utilizing clone slave labour which snowballed into multiple large-scale conflicts.

The Jedi would be portrayed much like they are in the PT, except they’d be endogamous rather than celibate and wield only blue lightsabers. Knights would wear uniforms similar to Luke’s ROTJ outfit, while masters would wear uniforms closer to his TFA outfit; in both cases, the colour scheme would be black-&-gray rather than pure black or white.

Yoda would be absent, mentioned but not seen. A holdover from a time when the Jedi were more theologically liberal, his heterodox beliefs placed him in conflict with the Jedi Council, leading to his expulsion.

Obi-Wan would get Anakin’s backstory from the PT. Born Ben Lars, he would’ve grown up a slave on Tatooine with his mother and brother, Owen, until Yoda came to the planet and paid for their freedom when Ben was nine. Like Yoda, he’d be a maverick at odds with the Council.

Anakin would be older, around the same age Luke was in SW. Like Obi-Wan, he’d hail from Tatooine, but wouldn’t have been a slave. Rather, he and his twin sister, Beru, would’ve grown up together on the Skywalker moisture farm. Unlike Beru, who was content on the farm, he left Tatooine seeking a more adventurous life, becoming navigator on the spice freighter Twilight. A Han Solo type, he’d be completely uninterested in getting involved in the Clone Wars until meeting Obi-Wan.

The Padme Amidala character would be completely reimagined as Amidala Naberrie AKA Naberrie 38. The 37th clone in the Naberrie line which has served the Alderaan Royal House as personal bodyguards for generations, a quirk of fate made her Force-sensitive, unlike her predecessors.

Naboo would become Alderaan. Enlisting the aid of the native Gungans, the Mandalorians would invade the planet, seeking to procure the Alderaanians’ advanced cloning techniques. This would enable them to create longer lasting clone shock troopers.

Qui-Gon and Dooku would be fused into a single character. Another student of Yoda and an influential Jedi master in his own right, he, too, would’ve been expelled from the Order for his dissenting beliefs. Plagued by visions of a new Sith Empire rising from the ashes of the Republic, he’d reluctantly join forces with the Mandalorians, delving into forbidden teachings in a bid to destroy the Sith with their own arts.

Asajj Ventress would take Darth Maul’s place. Qui-Gon’s foremost apprentice, she’d have a pair of violet lightsabers.

At the end of Ep. II, Anakin would leave Obi-Wan and join Qui-Gon.

Palpatine would be fused with Darth Bane. Rather than establishing the Rule of Two, he’d have established the Rule of One; learning soul transference, he attained immortality by commandeering the bodies of his so-called apprentices, ensuring the Sith way would live on indefinitely, but only through him. Palpatine is only his latest host body.

Ep. III would end with the Jedi Council pledging their allegiance to Palpatine, with dissenting Jedi like Obi-Wan going underground. Anakin falling into a molten pit, the Great Jedi Purge, etc. would all occur between the two trilogies.

Only Qui-Gon and Palpatine would display telekinetic abilities. Other Force users would only demonstrate the subtle Force abilities depicted in ANH.

Not a single red lightsaber. Well, maybe in a vision, but that’s the extent of it.

“The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order and in the assertion that, without Authority there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that anarchy can be instituted by a violent revolution… There can be only one permanent revolution — a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man. How is this revolution to take place? Nobody knows how it will take place in humanity, but every man feels it clearly in himself. And yet in our world everybody thinks of changing humanity, and nobody thinks of changing himself.”

― Leo Tolstoy

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Superweapon VII said:

Episode I would be set in 37 BBY. As the Galactic Civil War was in the OT, the Clone Wars would be introduced in medias res. At this late stage, the Clone Wars is primarily between the Republic and Mandalorian Death Watch, a terrorist faction which rose to power after displacing the previous pacifist government on Mandalore, but the wars began as localized skirmishes between revolutionary syndicalist movements and corporations utilizing clone slave labour which snowballed into multiple large-scale conflicts.

The Jedi would be portrayed much like they are in the PT, except they’d be endogamous rather than celibate and wield only blue lightsabers. Knights would wear uniforms similar to Luke’s ROTJ outfit, while masters would wear uniforms closer to his TFA outfit; in both cases, the colour scheme would be black-&-gray rather than pure black or white.

Yoda would be absent, mentioned but not seen. A holdover from a time when the Jedi were more theologically liberal, his heterodox beliefs placed him in conflict with the Jedi Council, leading to his expulsion.

Obi-Wan would get Anakin’s backstory from the PT. Born Ben Lars, he would’ve grown up a slave on Tatooine with his mother and brother, Owen, until Yoda came to the planet and paid for their freedom when Ben was nine. Like Yoda, he’d be a maverick at odds with the Council.

Anakin would be older, around the same age Luke was in SW. Like Obi-Wan, he’d hail from Tatooine, but wouldn’t have been a slave. Rather, he and his twin sister, Beru, would’ve grown up together on the Skywalker moisture farm. Unlike Beru, who was content on the farm, he left Tatooine seeking a more adventurous life, becoming navigator on the spice freighter Twilight. A Han Solo type, he’d be completely uninterested in getting involved in the Clone Wars until meeting Obi-Wan.

The Padme Amidala character would be completely reimagined as Amidala Naberrie AKA Naberrie 38. The 37th clone in the Naberrie line which has served the Alderaan Royal House as personal bodyguards for generations, a quirk of fate made her Force-sensitive, unlike her predecessors.

Naboo would become Alderaan. Enlisting the aid of the native Gungans, the Mandalorians would invade the planet, seeking to procure the Alderaanians’ advanced cloning techniques. This would enable them to create longer lasting clone shock troopers.

Qui-Gon and Dooku would be fused into a single character. Another student of Yoda and an influential Jedi master in his own right, he, too, would’ve been expelled from the Order for his dissenting beliefs. Plagued by visions of a new Sith Empire rising from the ashes of the Republic, he’d reluctantly join forces with the Mandalorians, delving into forbidden teachings in a bid to destroy the Sith with their own arts.

Asajj Ventress would take Darth Maul’s place. Qui-Gon’s foremost apprentice, she’d have a pair of violet lightsabers.

At the end of Ep. II, Anakin would leave Obi-Wan and join Qui-Gon.

Palpatine would be fused with Darth Bane. Rather than establishing the Rule of Two, he’d have established the Rule of One; learning soul transference, he attained immortality by commandeering the bodies of his so-called apprentices, ensuring the Sith way would live on indefinitely, but only through him. Palpatine is only his latest host body.

Ep. III would end with the Jedi Council pledging their allegiance to Palpatine, with dissenting Jedi like Obi-Wan going underground. Anakin falling into a molten pit, the Great Jedi Purge, etc. would all occur between the two trilogies.

Only Qui-Gon and Palpatine would display telekinetic abilities. Other Force users would only demonstrate the subtle Force abilities depicted in ANH.

Not a single red lightsaber. Well, maybe in a vision, but that’s the extent of it.

An interesting tale. I like the Lars/Skywalker part. Though I think some of this is contradictory to some of the OT sources.

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I like most of what we got.

Clone WarS - plural. I don’t think we got that. I would put more time between Eps 2 and 3 and have more than one war the clones were used in.

Obi-wan and Anakin were friends. The movies should show this. I’d show Obi-wan’s major flaw in teaching Anakin was that the two were more friends than student and teacher. All that conflict in AOTC would be gone.

I love the Palapatine subplots to take over the Republic. I would make more clear to the audience what has been going on.

I’d keep Yoda the teacher of the younglings, but I’d have him be a minority voice on the council.

I’d leave TPM much as it was, but increase Anakin’s age. Episode 2 would be about the first clone war. A danger would rise much sooner in the film and the Jedi would be concerned about the use of these new clones and investigate. Anakin is a new knight and is given sold guard duty on Padme, who is a target during the war. The romance would need to be better. Anakin shouldn’t be so whiny. Obi-wan investigates and finds out about Sifo Dyas and fails to uncover Palaptine’s connection and what he finds satisfies the Jedi. All the character get involved in the final battle where they seize the droid factories of Geonosis and Count Dooku escapes.

Ep 3 would be a new clone war. Now the Jedi are the generals and Anakin and Obi-wan are deep in the fighting. Similar to how things play out, I would have Dooku and Grevious be the key to stopping the war and after their defeat Palpatine refuses to let go of power so a group of Jedi (the masters Yoda doesn’t agree with) go to deal with him and that starts the Jedi purge. Padme is still key to Anakin’s fall. But it is more. The wars have changed him and the cracks in his training show. He has been taking the easy path and using anger to fight the war and the opposing Jedi spark hate for his fellow Jedi when they try to take out Palpatine (not just arrest him). Anakin saves Palpatine and gathers several other disaffected and angry Jedi and they start the purge. Obi-wan faces Anakin at a Volcano, not a vulcanic planet, and Anakin is maimed and burned and Obi-wan believes him dead and takes his saber. No watching him burn scene. Anakin falls into a volcano and lands on a ledge and is badly burned. Padme escapes and we don’t see the children born or what happens to her. So we don’t know when we see the OT what happened.

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Wexter said:

Yoda doesn’t appear at all, but is talked about a lot, being a living legend with unknown current whereabouts. Obi-Wan is kind of a big deal in the Jedi order as he has been trained by Yoda himself. Anakin and Obi-Wan may actually only be supporting characters in this story to preserve the surprise reveals of the OT. Obi-Wan takes multiple apprentices during the prequel trilogy.

At least three decades separate the Clone Wars from the OT and it is actually the bad guys who start with the cloning, creating themselves an army of mutants of all shapes and sizes to combat the Republic and its Jedi. The Clone Wars is actually a series of conflicts, not just one war.

Cloning, especially for military purposes, is generally considered unethical. However, chancellor Palpatine shows a remarkable interest in the technology. Shortly after the discovery of his own DNA in a cloning laboratory on enemy territory – which proves to the Jedi he has been orchestrating the war all along – he manipulates most of the Republic military into turning against the Jedi and declares himself the Emperor. All (or nearly all) of the cloning facilities are however destroyed during this period. Palpatine’s possible Force-sensitivity is suggested, but is never confirmed.

Most of the antagonist figureheads – some of whom are Force-sensitive – are interested in the cloning technology as a means to achieve immortality. Others are however motivated mostly by ideology or greed.

The Jedi are not celibate monks and they don’t wear Tatooine hermit robes. Leia’s mother doesn’t die immediately after giving birth. No Boba Fett origin story and no Chewbacca. The Jedi are very much present throughout the prequels, but many of the main characters are not Force-users – there’s the military, politicians, and common people of many different trades and convictions. Bail Organa plays a prominent role.

Excellent. I agree with all of this.

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yotsuya said:

Superweapon VII said:

Episode I would be set in 37 BBY. As the Galactic Civil War was in the OT, the Clone Wars would be introduced in medias res. At this late stage, the Clone Wars is primarily between the Republic and Mandalorian Death Watch, a terrorist faction which rose to power after displacing the previous pacifist government on Mandalore, but the wars began as localized skirmishes between revolutionary syndicalist movements and corporations utilizing clone slave labour which snowballed into multiple large-scale conflicts.

The Jedi would be portrayed much like they are in the PT, except they’d be endogamous rather than celibate and wield only blue lightsabers. Knights would wear uniforms similar to Luke’s ROTJ outfit, while masters would wear uniforms closer to his TFA outfit; in both cases, the colour scheme would be black-&-gray rather than pure black or white.

Yoda would be absent, mentioned but not seen. A holdover from a time when the Jedi were more theologically liberal, his heterodox beliefs placed him in conflict with the Jedi Council, leading to his expulsion.

Obi-Wan would get Anakin’s backstory from the PT. Born Ben Lars, he would’ve grown up a slave on Tatooine with his mother and brother, Owen, until Yoda came to the planet and paid for their freedom when Ben was nine. Like Yoda, he’d be a maverick at odds with the Council.

Anakin would be older, around the same age Luke was in SW. Like Obi-Wan, he’d hail from Tatooine, but wouldn’t have been a slave. Rather, he and his twin sister, Beru, would’ve grown up together on the Skywalker moisture farm. Unlike Beru, who was content on the farm, he left Tatooine seeking a more adventurous life, becoming navigator on the spice freighter Twilight. A Han Solo type, he’d be completely uninterested in getting involved in the Clone Wars until meeting Obi-Wan.

The Padme Amidala character would be completely reimagined as Amidala Naberrie AKA Naberrie 38. The 37th clone in the Naberrie line which has served the Alderaan Royal House as personal bodyguards for generations, a quirk of fate made her Force-sensitive, unlike her predecessors.

Naboo would become Alderaan. Enlisting the aid of the native Gungans, the Mandalorians would invade the planet, seeking to procure the Alderaanians’ advanced cloning techniques. This would enable them to create longer lasting clone shock troopers.

Qui-Gon and Dooku would be fused into a single character. Another student of Yoda and an influential Jedi master in his own right, he, too, would’ve been expelled from the Order for his dissenting beliefs. Plagued by visions of a new Sith Empire rising from the ashes of the Republic, he’d reluctantly join forces with the Mandalorians, delving into forbidden teachings in a bid to destroy the Sith with their own arts.

Asajj Ventress would take Darth Maul’s place. Qui-Gon’s foremost apprentice, she’d have a pair of violet lightsabers.

At the end of Ep. II, Anakin would leave Obi-Wan and join Qui-Gon.

Palpatine would be fused with Darth Bane. Rather than establishing the Rule of Two, he’d have established the Rule of One; learning soul transference, he attained immortality by commandeering the bodies of his so-called apprentices, ensuring the Sith way would live on indefinitely, but only through him. Palpatine is only his latest host body.

Ep. III would end with the Jedi Council pledging their allegiance to Palpatine, with dissenting Jedi like Obi-Wan going underground. Anakin falling into a molten pit, the Great Jedi Purge, etc. would all occur between the two trilogies.

Only Qui-Gon and Palpatine would display telekinetic abilities. Other Force users would only demonstrate the subtle Force abilities depicted in ANH.

Not a single red lightsaber. Well, maybe in a vision, but that’s the extent of it.

An interesting tale. I like the Lars/Skywalker part. Though I think some of this is contradictory to some of the OT sources.

Heh, yeah, probably. I lifted many of these ideas from a wholesale saga reimagining I’ve been brainstorming.

“The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order and in the assertion that, without Authority there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that anarchy can be instituted by a violent revolution… There can be only one permanent revolution — a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man. How is this revolution to take place? Nobody knows how it will take place in humanity, but every man feels it clearly in himself. And yet in our world everybody thinks of changing humanity, and nobody thinks of changing himself.”

― Leo Tolstoy

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This is a list of all the major changes I would make to the current Prequel Trilogy:

  1. The Clone War that is fought during the Trilogy should not be the only Clone War. Before the Prequels, there should be another Clone War, in which the Clone Masters created an Army of Clones and tried to take over the Galaxy, just like the Thrawn Trilogy says. Thus, the First Clone War is the one that was fought against the Clone Masters, while the Second Clone War is the one that was fought against the Separatists and it’s the one that was fought during the Prequel Trilogy, and in which Obi-Wan and Anakin participated. This way, the Clone Wars from the Thrawn Trilogy could be seen as true and there would be no significant contradiction with the pre-1999 EU, but at the same time we could also have a war against the Separatists.
  2. Anakin’s discovery, his taking by Obi-Wan and how he joined the Jedi Order should be themes that stay out of the movies, they should be themes for novels and comics set before the Prequel Trilogy, between the two Clone Wars. In the first movie, Anakin should be portrayed as Obi-Wan’s apprentice already. The first movie should be like Attack of the Clones, that is, a movie that serves to establish the beginning of the war (the Second Clone War) and the beginning of Anakin and Padmé’s relationship: the second movie should be like Labyrinth of Evil, that Is, an adventure that is set during the War itself; the third movie should be like the classical Revenge of the Sith, so it should show Anakin’s fall and the birth of the Empire.
  3. Anakin and Padmé should meet for the first time in the first movie. They doesn’t marry in the movie, nor for the rest of the Trilogy. Their relationship is not a marriage, but just a normal romantic relationship. Thus, Padmé is not Anakin’s wife, but simply his girlfriend. Furthermore, Padmé should still be the Senator of Naboo, but she should not be the former Queen. Jamilia should be the Queen all along. So, Anakin and Padmé meet each other when he’s 20 and she’s 25.
  4. There should be no rule forbidding the Jedi from having attachments, and the Jedi should be free to have romantic relationships. In general, the Jedi from the Prequel Trilogy should be more like the Jedi from the Tales of the Jedi comics. They should be heroes and should value positive feelings and positive relationships. Instead of teaching how to avoid relationships, the Jedi should teach how to have good relationships and should allow falling in love. Thus, Anakin and Padmé’s relationship should be public, and attachment management shouldn’t be the main storyline of the Trilogy, nor the reason of why Anakin falls to the Dark Side. I have nothing against the idea that the Jedi have their vision clouded by the Dark Side, and I’m also not against the idea that they have become a bureaucratized institution that puts itself at the service of corrupt politicians. I mean, I don’t want the Jedi to be portrayed as perfect through the Trilogy, but at the same time I’d like the audience to be able to share their basic philosophy, and I also don’t want them to forbid such a natural thing as falling in love.
  5. Anakin doesn’t fall to the Dark Side to try to save Padmé, but simply to try to end the War. Yes, he’s a slightly rebellious and a little stubborn person, but at the same time he’s very peaceful and would not hurt anyone. In spite of this, the War eventually transform and radicalize him. Such a radicalization leeds Anakin to embrace authoritarian ideals as time goes by (he never treats Padmé badly, though). In the end, Anakin ends up getting so sick of all the War and all the suffering that he sees through the Galaxy on a daily bases, that he becomes willing to do anything to put an end to all of it. So, Palpatine reveals himself as the Dark Lord of the Sith who was always behind everything and offers Anakin to join him, to bring order to the Galaxy and stop the War. Anakin eventually accepts, but at the same time he becomes corrupted by the Darkness, to the point that he ends up doing things he never thought he would do, such as killing all the Jedi inside the Temple after the activation of Order 66. Then, he ends up killing Padmé (she dies in childbirth due to the injuries he gave her), and the duel on Mustafar would be the same, so he ends up being burned in lava.
  6. I have nothing against the use of the Clones by the Republic, but I think the Separatists should use a Clone Army as well. So, Dooku and Palpatine would orchestrate the creation of the Grand Army of the Republic, but at the same time they would also create a Clone Army for the Confederacy, obviously using two different people to create the Clones. Also, Jango Fett should not exist. The Prequel Trilogy should respect the pre-1999 lore, therefore Boba Fett’s backstory shouldn’t change. So, the Clones used by the Republic are Clones of an important Mandalorian bounty hunter, which is not related to Boba Fett, though.
  7. I have nothing against the idea of Yoda using a lightsaber to fight, but I think he should only use the lightsaber once, that is, during the final duel against Darth Sidious in the third movie. That should be the first and last time we see Yoda using his lightsaber in all of the movies.
  8. Anakin is not the Chosen One. There should be no Chosen One in general. Anakin should have a biological father and mother like all normal humans, and he should be a normal human without any divine or special connotations. However, Anakin never knew his father, as he died before he was born. After Anakin left Tatooine to become a Jedi, Shmi married again. She married Cliegg Lars and lived with him, Owen and Beru for many years. However, she died before the Prequel Trilogy began, so we never see her. Sometimes Anakin mentions her during the course of the three movies, though, and throughout the trilogy Anakin should visit the Lars family at least once. This way, we have the opportunity to explore the frictions and differences between Owen and Anakin, of which Obi-Wan talks about in Star Wars (1977).

I’m currently planning to rewrite the Prequels by using this main concepts. My Trilogy will be based on the premise that most of the pre-1999 EU is Canon, and Rogue One will be considered Canon as well. If any of you are interested, maybe I could open a specific thread about it…

“Sometimes we must let go of our pride, and do what is requested to us.”
– Anakin Skywalker

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Spartacus01 said:

This is a list of all the major changes I would make to the current Prequel Trilogy:

  1. The Clone War that is fought during the Trilogy should not be the only Clone War. Before the Prequels, there should be another Clone War, in which the Clone Masters created an Army of Clones and tried to take over the Galaxy, just like the Thrawn Trilogy says. Thus, the First Clone War is the one that was fought against the Clone Masters, while the Second Clone War is the one that was fought against the Separatists and it’s the one that was fought during the Prequel Trilogy, and in which Obi-Wan and Anakin participated. This way, the Clone Wars from the Thrawn Trilogy could be seen as true and there would be no significant contradiction with the pre-1999 EU, but at the same time we could also have a war against the Separatists.
  2. Anakin’s discovery, his taking by Obi-Wan and how he joined the Jedi Order should be themes that stay out of the movies, they should be themes for novels and comics set before the Prequel Trilogy, between the two Clone Wars. In the first movie, Anakin should be portrayed as Obi-Wan’s apprentice already. The first movie should be like Attack of the Clones, that is, a movie that serves to establish the beginning of the war (the Second Clone War) and the beginning of Anakin and Padmé’s relationship: the second movie should be like Labyrinth of Evil, that Is, an adventure that is set during the War itself; the third movie should be like the classical Revenge of the Sith, so it should show Anakin’s fall and the birth of the Empire.
  3. Anakin and Padmé should meet for the first time in the first movie. They doesn’t marry in the movie, nor for the rest of the Trilogy. Their relationship is not a marriage, but just a normal romantic relationship. Thus, Padmé is not Anakin’s wife, but simply his girlfriend. Furthermore, Padmé should still be the Senator of Naboo, but she should not be the former Queen. Jamilia should be the Queen all along. So, Anakin and Padmé meet each other when he’s 20 and she’s 25.
  4. There should be no rule forbidding the Jedi from having attachments, and the Jedi should be free to have romantic relationships. In general, the Jedi from the Prequel Trilogy should be more like the Jedi from the Tales of the Jedi comics. They should be heroes and should value positive feelings and positive relationships. Instead of teaching how to avoid relationships, the Jedi should teach how to have good relationships and should allow falling in love. Thus, Anakin and Padmé’s relationship should be public, and attachment management shouldn’t be the main storyline of the Trilogy, nor the reason of why Anakin falls to the Dark Side. I have nothing against the idea that the Jedi have their vision clouded by the Dark Side, and I’m also not against the idea that they have become a bureaucratized institution that puts itself at the service of corrupt politicians. I mean, I don’t want the Jedi to be portrayed as perfect through the Trilogy, but at the same time I’d like the audience to be able to share their basic philosophy, and I also don’t want them to forbid such a natural thing as falling in love.
  5. Anakin doesn’t fall to the Dark Side to try to save Padmé, but simply to try to end the War. Yes, he’s a slightly rebellious and a little stubborn person, but at the same time he’s very peaceful and would not hurt anyone. In spite of this, the War eventually transform and radicalize him. Such a radicalization leeds Anakin to embrace authoritarian ideals as time goes by (he never treats Padmé badly, though). In the end, Anakin ends up getting so sick of all the War and all the suffering that he sees through the Galaxy on a daily bases, that he becomes willing to do anything to put an end to all of it. So, Palpatine reveals himself as the Dark Lord of the Sith who was always behind everything and offers Anakin to join him, to bring order to the Galaxy and stop the War. Anakin eventually accepts, but at the same time he become corrupted by the Darkness, to the point that he ends up doing things he never thought he would do, such as killing all the Jedi inside the Temple after the activation of Order 66. Then, he ends up killing Padmé (she dies in childbirth due to the injuries he gave her), and the duel on Mustafar would be the same, so he ends up being burned in lava.
  6. I have nothing against the use of the Clones by the Republic, but I think the Separatists should use a Clone Army as well. So, Dooku and Palpatine would orchestrate the creation of the Grand Army of the Republic, but at the same time they would also create a Clone Army for the Confederacy, obviously using two different people to create the Clones. Also, Jango Fett should not exist. The Prequel Trilogy should respect the pre-1999 lore, therefore Boba Fett’s backstory shouldn’t change. So, the Clones used by the Republic are Clones of an important Mandalorian bounty hunter, which is not related to Boba Fett, though.
  7. I have nothing against the idea of Yoda using a lightsaber to fight, but I think he should only use the lightsaber once, that is, during the final duel against Darth Sidious in the third movie. That should be the first and last time we see Yoda using his lightsaber in all of the movies.
  8. Anakin is not the Chosen One. There should be no Chosen One in general. Anakin should have a biological father and mother like all normal humans, and he should be a normal human without any divine or special connotations. However, Anakin never knew his father, as he died before he was born. After Anakin left Tatooine to become a Jedi, Shmi married again. She married Cliegg Lars and lived with him, Owen and Beru for many years. However, she died before the Prequel Trilogy began, so we never see her. Sometimes Anakin mentions her during the course of the three movies, though, and throughout the trilogy Anakin should visit the Lars family at least once. This way, we have the opportunity to explore the frictions and differences between Owen and Anakin, of which Obi-Wan talks about in Star Wars (1977).

I’m currently planning to rewrite the Prequels by using this main concepts. My Trilogy will be based on the premise that most of the pre-1999 EU is Canon, and Rogue One will be considered Canon as well. If any of you are interested, maybe I could open a specific thread about it…

This all sounds really good. As time has gone on, I’ve started to think that the whole Chosen One prophecy is a bit of a narrative crutch. Anakin’s fall would have been more compelling if, instead of being a child of prophecy, Anakin is shown distinguishing himself through his good deeds and heroic acts. As the war would go on, the people of the Republic would look to him more and more as their champion. He’d become this symbol of hope to the galaxy, all while the war continues to traumatize and wear away at him, until he finally snaps under the pressure of watching everything crumble around him.

But we can’t turn back. Fear is their greatest defense. I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust. And what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault.

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Servii said:

This all sounds really good. As time has gone on, I’ve started to think that the whole Chosen One prophecy is a bit of a narrative crutch. Anakin’s fall would have been more compelling if, instead of being a child of prophecy, Anakin is shown distinguishing himself through his good deeds and heroic acts. As the war would go on, the people of the Republic would look to him more and more as their champion. He’d become this symbol of hope to the galaxy, all while the war continues to traumatize and wear away at him, until he finally snaps under the pressure of watching everything crumble around him.

At the same time there’s something very compelling to me about the one destined to save the galaxy literally doing the opposite and being ultimately responsible for plunging it into darkness when he refuses his destiny, only to then turn back and fulfill his destiny after 23 years of being a monster. It’s a complete subversion of the trope. Are there any other Chosen One’s in fiction that literally become Satan’s right hand for 23 years?

“…instead of being a child of prophecy, Anakin is shown distinguishing himself through his good deeds and heroic acts.” Both is better. It makes it more tragic that he falls. He’s this super powerful being (Anakin/Vader being distinguished as incredibly powerful even among the Jedi has been around since ESB; Yoda says so) born with the potential to save the entire galaxy and he doesn’t.

If you wanna make someone’s fall from grace tragic, emphasize lost potential. Emphasize what could’ve been. Take Walter White in Breaking Bad (which was done way better then Anakin into Vader). One of the reasons it’s so tragic IMO is because Walt was a genius and if hadn’t left Grey Matter (or refused Elliot’s offer to come back) his life could’ve been amazing and he could’ve made a positive impact on the world. Instead he becomes a drug kingpin and a monster who loses everything and ruined so many people’s lives. Setting up Anakin as this guy who’s destined to destroy the Sith and be the ultimate hero only for him to screw up and become an evil cyborg who hates everything? Brilliant.

Also, Darth Vader being the prodigal son of the Force itself is awesome.

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Obi-Wan Kenobi would already be a Jedi Knight when Episode I begins, and Yoda would never appear. Although Kenobi would sometimes brag about his former master in ways that Anakin, and the audience, would suspect as exaggeration. Yoda would be described as reclusive and mysterious, keeping out of the political arena, and hand-picking his students to invite to train on his hermit planet.

Anakin would be a teenager when he meets Kenobi, with the reason he’s reluctant to leave home having to do with his mother’s delicate help or desperate quality of life rather than his being a child. He would already have a relationship with Owen Lars by this point, who could be either a relative or close friend. Owen would be vocal about his disagreement on Anakin leaving, but equally vocal about looking after his mother.

We would get onscreen exposition and/or a flashback about Darth Bane and the line of succession about the rule of two. We’d also get some basic information about why the Sith are bad and why it matters that they may resurface.

The Clone War we see would be only the most recent of multiple clone—related conflicts, and the remaining Jedi would feel that allowing it to begin would be their downfall. The audience would be clued into a line of succession and planning, of which Palpatine is the culmination and continuation. The Clone Wars would be set in motion by the end of Episode I, with Episode II showing us Kenobi and Skywalker fighting together.

Toward the end of Episode III, Padme would travel with Leia on Alderaan and it’d be more convincing than what one can do via fan editing! Anakin’s fall to the dark side would not be predicated on saving her life, and would resemble Lucas’ ideas circa 1983.

3PO would be part of Padme’s ship compliment, and R2 would have been Anakin’s secret project. Not built, but rescued and souped up. Both their memories would be erased at the end of III. Kenobi would maintain a consistently dismissive attitude toward droids and would not place a comforting hand on 3PO on Mustafar, and never referring to either by name. R2 wouldn’t accompany Anakin during the Clone Wars, as Jedi don’t deal with droids at all.

There would be no virgin birth of Anakin. There can still be a prophecy, but it’d be kept controversial among Jedi and up to interpretation.

It would not be uncommon for Jedi to have families, and there would be no celibacy requirement. One may still need to pass tests and train, but if one is capable one can follow in their parent’s footsteps.

When he is struck down, Anakin is aware that he will have a child, and expresses he would give the child his lightsaber one day. He is lead to believe Padme died by his actions, although it’s more like the cherry on top rather than a supreme point of irony.

Jedi outfits would vary a bit more than brown robes.

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Hal 9000 said:

Anakin would be a teenager when he meets Kenobi, with the reason he’s reluctant to leave home having to do with his mother’s delicate help or desperate quality of life rather than his being a child. He would already have a relationship with Owen Lars by this point, who could be either a relative or close friend. Owen would be vocal about his disagreement on Anakin leaving, but equally vocal about looking after his mother.

We would get onscreen exposition and/or a flashback about Darth Bane and the line of succession about the rule of two. We’d also get some basic information about why the Sith are bad and why it matters that they may resurface.

These are both excellent ideas.

Anakin’s fall to the dark side would not be predicated on saving her life, and would resemble Lucas’ ideas circa 1983.

What were his ideas back in 1983?

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Anakin would have transitioned more gradually and operated in secret for a while. He goes on a mission with a Jedi and only he returns, that kind of thing. Obi-Wan and Padme have time to grow suspicious of him and then have it confirmed.

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I really love some of your ideas Hal 9000. I especially like how you keep Yoda’s identity secret (and thus not spoiling any surprises in Empire) and how you had the Lars close to Anakin before he leaves to be a Jedi.

Move along, move along.

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I’d like to have the Jedi themselves gradually become authoritarian over the course of the PT. At the beginning of Episode 1, they’re more like academics, diplomats, and thought leaders with no formal power in the galaxy, having given it up at the beginning of the long peace they live in. But this long peace is coming to an end, and the Jedi, reminiscing their past as defenders of peace and justice in the galaxy, illegally intervene in this war. This should be portrayed as a good thing, if they hadn’t, the bad guys would’ve just chewed up whatever planet they invaded and moved on to the next, and the Republic was incapable of stopping them without the Jedi.

The enemy responds by escalating the war to deal with the Jedi, to the point where the Jedi can no longer handle the war on their own. The Republic is at risk of being conquered, and the Jedi save the Republic by seizing more power and mobilizing a large, centralized army capable of fighting a galactic-scale war. Since the Jedi have been the boots on the ground, this army is answerable to the Jedi, not necessarily the Senate, giving the Jedi essentially more power than the Republic. After Episode 2, the galaxy may as well already be in the same political state as it is under the Empire, the only major difference being that the Jedi, who are trying to do the right thing, are in charge. The Senate won’t be dissolved until Episode 4, but in Episode 3 they’re just rubber stamping what the Jedi want to do anyway. Again, this should be something the audience is on board with. If they didn’t do this, the Republic would have been destroyed and someone far worse would have been ruling the galaxy.

The Senate would be more like the Roman Senate than the American Senate, where all the Senators have important bureaucratic jobs outside of legislating. Palpatine is the Jedi’s representative in the Senate, a very prestigious role before the PT but not powerful until the war happened. But now, Palpatine is essentially the commander-in-chief of an army which is more powerful than the Republic, and all he has to do to seize complete control of the galaxy for himself is to get the Jedi out of the picture. He does that, and that’s it. He sells this seizure of power easily, because ostensibly the only difference between the Jedi’s regime and his is that his regime is more effective and not self-sabotaging with allegiance to, like, ideals and morality. Now that Palpatine’s in power, the “Republic” easily wins the war they always should have been able to.

I wouldn’t want the audience realizing the Jedi were doing anything wrong until it’s in retrospect at the end of the trilogy. The Republic is cripplingly stalled by corruption and enough Senators are in the pockets of the enemy that the Jedi are the only ones capable of fighting a truly evil enemy, but they have the strategy of white blood cells and put the galaxy in a worse position because of it. If Palpatine’s behind the enemy here too, this could be his real plan, counting on the Jedi Code’s complete intolerance of the dark side to get them to seize power for him.

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SparkySywer said:

I’d like to have the Jedi themselves gradually become authoritarian over the course of the PT. At the beginning of Episode 1, they’re more like academics, diplomats, and thought leaders with no formal power in the galaxy, having given it up at the beginning of the long peace they live in. But this long peace is coming to an end, and the Jedi, reminiscing their past as defenders of peace and justice in the galaxy, illegally intervene in this war. This should be portrayed as a good thing, if they hadn’t, the bad guys would’ve just chewed up whatever planet they invaded and moved on to the next, and the Republic was incapable of stopping them without the Jedi.

The enemy responds by escalating the war to deal with the Jedi, to the point where the Jedi can no longer handle the war on their own. The Republic is at risk of being conquered, and the Jedi save the Republic by seizing more power and mobilizing a large, centralized army capable of fighting a galactic-scale war. Since the Jedi have been the boots on the ground, this army is answerable to the Jedi, not necessarily the Senate, giving the Jedi essentially more power than the Republic. After Episode 2, the galaxy may as well already be in the same political state as it is under the Empire, the only major difference being that the Jedi, who are trying to do the right thing, are in charge. The Senate won’t be dissolved until Episode 4, but in Episode 3 they’re just rubber stamping what the Jedi want to do anyway. Again, this should be something the audience is on board with. If they didn’t do this, the Republic would have been destroyed and someone far worse would have been ruling the galaxy.

The Senate would be more like the Roman Senate than the American Senate, where all the Senators have important bureaucratic jobs outside of legislating. Palpatine is the Jedi’s representative in the Senate, a very prestigious role before the PT but not powerful until the war happened. But now, Palpatine is essentially the commander-in-chief of an army which is more powerful than the Republic, and all he has to do to seize complete control of the galaxy for himself is to get the Jedi out of the picture. He does that, and that’s it. He sells this seizure of power easily, because ostensibly the only difference between the Jedi’s regime and his is that his regime is more effective and not self-sabotaging with allegiance to, like, ideals and morality. Now that Palpatine’s in power, the “Republic” easily wins the war they always should have been able to.

I wouldn’t want the audience realizing the Jedi were doing anything wrong until it’s in retrospect at the end of the trilogy. The Republic is cripplingly stalled by corruption and enough Senators are in the pockets of the enemy that the Jedi are the only ones capable of fighting a truly evil enemy, but they have the strategy of white blood cells and put the galaxy in a worse position because of it. If Palpatine’s behind the enemy here too, this could be his real plan, counting on the Jedi Code’s complete intolerance of the dark side to get them to seize power for him.

That would have been great.

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I would have liked for them to have been more fun like the originals. To have more adventure and excitement and if they had to be political to focus on the slow seduction to evil of Anakin. Not on trades routes and taxation and trade federations and other absurd things. Maybe those need to exist in a great empire like Asimov, and i know Lucas was going back to them but its boring as hell.

Also maybe something on the Sith philosophy other than the desire to dominate and being pure evil. Like if Lucas made it more interesting than black and white. And the learn the darkside to save padme plot needs to be shot into a sun. It should be Anakin’s desire to master destiny, and bring order to chaos.

If we are talking rewrite of the Saga it should be Luke Lars. Like Vader isn’t going to look for Luke staying with his brother Owen.