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Pauln6 said:

https://youtu.be/8ddDlOzidqI

Just started experimenting with After Effects. It might be possible to hybridise the Lounge scene with a bit of effort.

Is it possible for you to make the 4k de windows in that scene the blackish gray part specifically look more impressive somehow? the reason I ask is it almost looks like an incomplete effect.

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While I certainly appreciate everyone’s enthusiasm for the film, it’s probably time to make a separate thread for any different project you are working on.

For my part, I will be doing my own fanedit of the new master as detailed here:
https://fanrestore.com/thread-1745-post-83136.html#pid83136
I bought the UHD and was extremely disappointed to discover it had a bunch of DNR all over it. No timeline on this (probably not any time soon), but it will happen at some point.

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ElectricTriangle said:

While I certainly appreciate everyone’s enthusiasm for the film, it’s probably time to make a separate thread for any different project you are working on.

For my part, I will be doing my own fanedit of the new master as detailed here:
https://fanrestore.com/thread-1745-post-83136.html#pid83136
I bought the UHD and was extremely disappointed to discover it had a bunch of DNR all over it. No timeline on this (probably not any time soon), but it will happen at some point.

Thanks for the heads up. It feels that we are close to an ‘ultimate’ version.

I’m a total amateur so I don’t consider mine a ‘project’ so much as an attempt at wish fulfilment that requires help!

I will definitely keep an eye on your new project. It feels like we are 95% perfected with the new version.

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Fullmetaled said:

Vilgefortz said:

ElectricTriangle said:
I bought the UHD and was extremely disappointed to discover it had a bunch of DNR all over it.

I am currently trying to fix it (on standard Blu-ray though)

Before: https://images4.imagebam.com/89/a1/5c/MEFYHRN_o.png

After: https://images4.imagebam.com/b2/11/8e/MEFYHRK_o.png

So what are doing that’s fixing this is it adding fake grain?

Exactly.
If T2 new Blu-ray look could be fixed that way, then Star Trek may be fixed too.

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Vilgefortz said:

Fullmetaled said:

Vilgefortz said:

ElectricTriangle said:
I bought the UHD and was extremely disappointed to discover it had a bunch of DNR all over it.

I am currently trying to fix it (on standard Blu-ray though)

Before: https://images4.imagebam.com/89/a1/5c/MEFYHRN_o.png

After: https://images4.imagebam.com/b2/11/8e/MEFYHRK_o.png

So what are doing that’s fixing this is it adding fake grain?

Exactly.
If T2 new Blu-ray look could be fixed that way, then Star Trek may be fixed too.

Why hasn’t anyone done this for not only the back to the future trilogy uhds but et too? they had bad grain reduction done too.

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ElectricTriangle said:

There’s no need to do it that way, when the theatrical blu-ray generally has much less DNR (for live action), so you edit that to match the DE edition. This is what I will be doing.

Sure, you can do that and it may end up better looking, but by doing what I just did I have quite nice looking Director’s Edition made in half an hour (+ re-encoding) without any editing required and with grain in place also in DC exclusive VFX shots.

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Vilgefortz said:

ElectricTriangle said:

There’s no need to do it that way, when the theatrical blu-ray generally has much less DNR (for live action), so you edit that to match the DE edition. This is what I will be doing.

Sure, you can do that and it may end up better looking, but by doing what I just did I have quite nice looking Director’s Edition made in half an hour (+ re-encoding) without any editing required and with grain in place also in DC exclusive VFX shots.

Can you tell me why popular films like the back to the future trilogy uhd and the et uhd haven’t been regrained like what you’re doing for Star Trek the motion picture’s directors cut?

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Can you tell me why popular films like the back to the future trilogy uhd and the et uhd haven’t been regrained like what you’re doing for Star Trek the motion picture’s directors cut?

I suppose it depends of people who make decisions, in case of TMP —>

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Trek-The-Motion-Picture-4K-Blu-ray/294699/#Review
“This is discussed in detail in the supplements. Listen to the Fein, Matessino, and Dochterman commentary track at the 1:06:40 mark (as well as the “Return to Tomorrow” supplement) where the conversation begins about the grain removal and re-introduction because it was “distracting.” It detracted from the experience, they say.”

Some people think that “grain is bad”. And if it happens that the decision of what to do with particular movie is in their hands, then we may get botched transfers that doesn’t even resemble film look.

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Vilgefortz said:

Can you tell me why popular films like the back to the future trilogy uhd and the et uhd haven’t been regrained like what you’re doing for Star Trek the motion picture’s directors cut?

I suppose it depends of people who make decisions, in case of TMP —>

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Trek-The-Motion-Picture-4K-Blu-ray/294699/#Review
“This is discussed in detail in the supplements. Listen to the Fein, Matessino, and Dochterman commentary track at the 1:06:40 mark (as well as the “Return to Tomorrow” supplement) where the conversation begins about the grain removal and re-introduction because it was “distracting.” It detracted from the experience, they say.”

Some people think that “grain is bad”. And if it happens that the decision of what to do with particular movie is in their hands, then we may get botched transfers that doesn’t even resemble film look.

No I meant why haven’t fans fixed these blunders like what your doing?

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Fullmetaled said:
No I meant why haven’t fans fixed these blunders like what your doing?

Well, sometimes they do.

What I did with TMP was inspired by some Terminator 2 restoration by Sanjuro_61 (based on this last botched transfer) that added grain to it, changed colors and ended up being best looking version of the movie I’ve ever seen and the only one I rewatch since I’ve got it.

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Vilgefortz said:

Fullmetaled said:
No I meant why haven’t fans fixed these blunders like what your doing?

Well, sometimes they do.

What I did with TMP was inspired by some Terminator 2 restoration by Sanjuro_61 (based on this last botched transfer) that added grain to it, changed colors and ended up being best looking version of the movie I’ve ever seen and the only one I rewatch since I’ve got it.

That’s a shame I wish more fans would do these kinds of fixes since the studios won’t. 😦

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Fullmetaled said:

Vilgefortz said:

Can you tell me why popular films like the back to the future trilogy uhd and the et uhd haven’t been regrained like what you’re doing for Star Trek the motion picture’s directors cut?

I suppose it depends of people who make decisions, in case of TMP —>

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Trek-The-Motion-Picture-4K-Blu-ray/294699/#Review
“This is discussed in detail in the supplements. Listen to the Fein, Matessino, and Dochterman commentary track at the 1:06:40 mark (as well as the “Return to Tomorrow” supplement) where the conversation begins about the grain removal and re-introduction because it was “distracting.” It detracted from the experience, they say.”

Some people think that “grain is bad”. And if it happens that the decision of what to do with particular movie is in their hands, then we may get botched transfers that doesn’t even resemble film look.

No I meant why haven’t fans fixed these blunders like what your doing?

I think what they were saying was that the grain was intense and inconsistent. So that was distracting. I’ve seen it and it has grain, it looks great with the grain consistent throughout. I love it!

Before “Intentional Creative Decisions”!!! it was “…A certain point of view”???

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I’ve finally completed my version of the new Director’s Edition, syncing the theatrical master for better picture quality. Check it out here: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Trek-The-Motion-Picture-Directors-Edition-The-Anti-DNR-Fanedit/id/114112

Star Trek: The Motion Picture DE - The Anti-DNR Fanedit
Duel (1971) - The Hybrid Cut
The Phantom of the Opera - 1925 Version Reconstruction - Rare Scores Collection - Roy Budd Score