That is how it is supposed to work.
It’s not “how it’s supposed to work”, it’s how it does work. George Lucas says of the Jedi, “They are the most moral of anyone in the galaxy.” He says Jedi are allowed to love. Not just Qui-Gon. All of them.
What Lucas told Dave Filoni about the duel in TPM being truly a duel for the fate of Anakin, makes it clear that this was Lucas’s intent.
No. Lucas didn’t tell Filoni that. Filoni made it up.
Here’s a whole post covering Filoni’s “Duel of the Fates” tangent. In short, almost none of it follows Lucas’ vision. It’s all his headcanon.
https://www.tumblr.com/david-talks-sw/678157778408374273/hi-this-came-about-because-ive-seen-a-few-of?source=shareThe rest of the comments are about Jedi in general. But you have to look at the fallen Jedi as well as those who remained in the order to see what Lucas did. The Jedi training did not work for everyone and it periodically failed.
22 Jedi over a thousand years left. Three of them turned to the dark side. These are the exceptions, not the rule. It’s not the fault of the teachings, it’s the fault of the person who refuses to use them.
At the same time, the Jedi weren’t able to deal with Anakin’s fears and teach him how to let go.
It’s not that they didn’t try to help Anakin it’s that Anakin refused the help the Jedi tried to give him.
Rian Johnson tied into this in TLJ with what Luke was saying about the Jedi.
No again. Luke blames the Jedi for his mistake. His arc is realizing that it was his personal failing that led to Ben’s turn and not the result of the Jedi way. He even admits at the end that the Jedi should live on.
And going along with that, I’ve noticed an interesting pattern. In TROS we see Rey and Kylo Ren/Ben Solo openly use a force healing power.
Force healing was not come up with by George Lucas. And even if so, force healing is a part of the Jedi way because it’s inherently selfless. So there’s no reason to bring it up.
But in the Prequels, the way the Jedi teach this is to avoid love as it leads to attachment.
George Lucas says otherwise, and in the prequels themselves, nobody says that.
Just admit this is your head canon. Everybody has them.
You seem to have ignored all the OT things I pointed out.
It is not just my head canon. It is there in the films.
I don’t agree that Filoni made it up. It is well documented how much he worked with Lucas directly. If he says that is what Lucas told him, I believe him.
There is an entire thread on this site about Lucas being an unreliable narrator because he continually changes things. The various edits to the OT and PT films aren’t the only thing he changes. After the OT was complete, he liked to claim that Vader was always intended to be Luke and Leia’s father when that is very obviously not the case. The films and the previous drafts of the scripts prove otherwise.
To be honest, I really don’t stop to consider anything Lucas says that seems to conflict with the movies. And that tends to be quite a lot of what he says. So as far as I’m concerned, if you are listening to Lucas over the films themselves that is a non-canon head canon. The films disagree with him on a number of levels and what Filoni shared of his conversations with Lucas better agrees with the films than his own comments do. I referred to Filoni because what he has shared of his conversations with Lucas agrees with what I got out of the films long before he had done a single episode of Clone Wars. His comments add layers to the PT that agree with my own previous observations. Same with Luke’s comments in the ST. The only EU book I have read since the mid 90’s has been the Millennium Falcon book. I have largely ignored the EU so none of my observations have anything to do with the EU. It is only the the Saga films themselves. From the films I see the flaws in the Jedi. They are less than what they were. I think George often speaks of the Jedi at their height, not the Jedi just before their fall.
The films very much established that younglings are recruited before any bad habits can set in. Anakin is not that young. Luke is even older. With Anakin they try the normal youngling training and it fails. Fear is part of who Anakin is already and the teachings about fear fail. He needed teachings about anger and hate, not fear. Yes, he needed to work on his fear, but to stop any fall to the dark side, he needed teachings about anger and hate and that is never shown. The implication of his age and the various comments is that he is too old and the normal Jedi teachings don’t work. Fast forward to Obi-wan and Yoda dealing with Luke, they have adjusted their teachings to account for his age where they had not for Anakin. From a writing perspective with the PT being written later, that has to be a deliberate choice on Lucas’s part. He pulls the PT Jedi back to teaching to avoid fear. Anakin had fear, but Luke has anger. And yet Anakin fell and Luke did not? What is one key difference? What they were taught. You can see that Lucas analyzed what the failing with Anakin was and came up with something that Obi-wan and Yoda had fixed to teach Luke. You can see the difference in teachings in the PT and OT. The only reason for that is to show that the PT Jedi failed Anakin due to failures of their teachings. They could not adapt to Anakin’s age or inherent fear. Obi-wan and Yoda wanted to make sure that did not happen with Luke and trained Luke so that when Palpatine and Vader goaded him far enough, that he could come back from it.
In the films themselves we don’t see that in great detail, but what we see and hear shows a change from PT to OT in their methods. The only way you can arrive at a reason for that change lies in Anakin’s fall and their adaption to prevent Luke having that same issue. And that IS in the dialog. They make many references to Anakin as they teach Luke. This goes along with Yoda’s advice in TLJ - to learn from your mistakes. That dialog just puts to words what we already saw Yoda do. So it there was a mistake, that means the PT Jedi did something wrong. They failed in training Anakin. They failed detecting Palpatine and his influence. They failed in a number of ways and Obi-wan and Yoda train Luke differently in several key ways. The PT Jedi ways work for younglings, but they fail for those who are older. It makes you wonder how many older force sensitive beings the Jedi decide not to train. Their numbers are greatly reduced and they could use the additional recruits. But if they don’t know how to train someone older who has issues then it makes sense.
Anakin’s falls shows Yoda and Obi-wan a failing in the Jedi and they train Luke at 19 and 22 in a different way. He is attached to his friends. Rather than stop him from going, they using it as a teaching moment. They use it to further his Jedi education and build his ability to stay on the light side. And it works. A year later when he returns Yoda proclaims him ready for his final test. Luke is headstrong and does many things his own way, but in that moment when he looks at Vader’s severed mechanical arm and his own mechanical hand, those lessons from Yoda and Obi-wan dominate the emotions running through him. Their revised teachings worked. If the PT Jedi were right, there would be no need to show a difference in training. That there is a difference between the PT and OT is how you can tell that this is something deliberate that Lucas did. That is how you can tell what he told Filoni is accurate. That is how you can tell a lot of his interviews were BS. He didn’t want to make the mistakes other franchise celebrities had made. Shatner for instance. The PT celebrated Jedi and Lucas wanted to publicly encourage that. But when it came to the story, small failings in the Jedi are an integral part of it. They were not deliberately corrupt or out of balance or out of step. They were a product of the failings of the Republic. I would even say they were victims of Palpatine’s plot to take over. How long had he been working before TPM? Was Darth Plagueis working on it before that? The Sith wanted to bring down the Jedi so who knows how far back it goes. So the Jedi were victims of that Sith plot as much as Anakin was the victim of the flaws in the Jedi training.
The PT Jedi relied on recruiting them young and training them from a very young age and training them to avoid attachments and fear. That system did not work for Anakin or Luke. They failed Anakin, but they did not fail Luke.