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Episode 6 was the perfect end for this first movie edit! I’ve removed all of Mon Mothma’s scenes, since they were unimportant to the heist, and will be including some of them in the beginning of the second movie edit. Right now the edit is currently 3 hours. But I’m gonna continue to keep trimming in hopes to shave this down to as close to 2h30m that I can.

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I’ve just updated the Drive link to the new 1-6 episode movie edit!

It’s currently 3 hours, but I’d love to hear others thoughts on what else could be cut here. I really want to get this down to 2h30m, but am having a hard time figure what else could be cut.

PM me if you are interested in checking this out!

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I wonder if it might be better has a miniseries of about 1h30m each. While some of the Coruscant scenes can be cut, trimmed, or saved for later, some of them are related to having not enough money for the rebellion and does connect to the money heist. Whatever the case, probably best to wait and see the next story arc.

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Solemn.Philosopher said:

I do wonder if it might be better has a miniseries of about 1h30m each. While I do think some of the Coruscant scenes can be cut, trimmed, or saved for later, some of them are related to having not enough money for the rebellion and does connect to the money heist. Whatever the case, probably best to wait and see the next story arc.

I’m probably going to end up doing it this way, if I can’t trim anything more off of this. Two 1h30m movies is better than a 3h one in my book.

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It might not be much of an “edit” in the end, but I would honestly be thrilled with a “miniseries” version that just tied each of the 3 episode arcs together into one film each with no major cuts other than whatever is necessary (if anything) to make the end of one episode and the beginning of the next flow well in the context of a film. But I’m excited to see where your edit goes regardless!

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Alright so I’ve decided to keep it as four mini movies.

Here is the first two!
The Escape: Episodes 1-3 - 1h28m (27 minutes trimmed overall)
The Heist: Episodes 4-6 - 1h45m (35 minutes trimmed overall)

They are both uploaded to the drive, let me know what you guys think of these!

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Alright I’m a little conflicted on how to handle episode 7… since there appears to be a time-jump(?) in the last 5 minutes of the episode.

As of right now I will continue to do an edit for every 3 episodes, but I feel like the time-jump should start an episode instead of being right in the middle of an episode. I don’t know…

I think most of Episode 7 would be better joined with the “Heist” episodes 4-6 edit. Only problem is the runtime. There really wasn’t much I’d cut out of Episode 7, so I’d be adding another 40 or so minutes to the 1h45m run time of my Episode 2 edit.

Is anyone opposed to drastic runtime differences like that between episodes? I could cut more from episodes 4-6 to get the runtime down even more, but I’m still waiting to hear feedback on those episodes, before I cut anything else.

I could also make the “The Escape” episodes 1-3 edit longer… Maybe shaving 20 or so minutes off of the “Heist” episode’s beginning and adding it to the first episode.

Any thoughts?

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It is definitely tricky with all the individual stories. I think the heist stuff does all fit nicely into film two.

The latest episode was jumping around too much. I think they are trying to keep every character story going in the one episode, but maybe in the film version you could merge some scenes and stay on a character longer.

I assume these storylines will converge over the next two episodes. I am guessing that this arc will revolve around another hunt for Andor, but from both the Rebels and the Empire.

If the stories don’t converge until the final three episodes, I wonder if a fifth film (like an episode 3.5) could be spun off with the Coruscant stuff. There would need to be something to “conclude” that story on its own though.

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I’m going to try this…

The Escape: Episodes 1, 2, 3, 4
The Heist: Episodes 5, 6, 7

This way I can start my Episode 3 edit with the very end of Episode 7’s time-jump.

I’m only gonna test this idea… I may very well jump right back to 3-episode edits. Just want to see if this may flow better.

Both episodes will clock in closer to 2 hours instead of the 1h30min mark.

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I think the key is self-contained arcs rather than specific lengths, so I’d cut to story not time. But it would be a bonus to have them all roughly balanced to normal movie length where possible.

We know now that the groupings for this season will be 3/3/1/3/2, as opposed to the 3/3/3/3 we expected and are getting for season two.

Episode 7 was so good, that I’m glad you’re trying to include it, but it does have its challenges, as you’ve mentioned.

Since the next content after #7 is a three episode arc, you won’t want to over-pad it, and then the final arc is only two episodes so you’ll likely need to add stuff to it for balance.

One thing that’s still not anchored is chronological placement of most of the Mon Mothma stuff. I feel like that’s the content that can slide around the most. The Cyril content probably wants to sit within the second arc as a B-plot, but also might do well to be pulled later, especially if he only joins the Cassian story in the two-part finale.

And Cassian on the beach can probably open the arc which features him in prison.

The big question is how full of content the next arc (three episodes) is going to be, and we won’t know that till we see it. In the meantime I’d focus on identifying the content that is or isn’t pinned to Cassian’s chronologically.

The Clone Wars: Refocused | Andor: Movie Omnibus

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EddieDean said:

We know now that the groupings for this season will be 3/3/1/3/2, as opposed to the 3/3/3/3 we expected and are getting for season two.

I’m gonna shoot for doing it as 4/3/?/? for now. I probably won’t edit it to each particular arc. If the show was more episodic like say The Clone Wars, editing it into particular arcs like you’ve done with Refocused, would also suit this well. But considering this is flowing together a lot more than I thought it was going to pre-“the first 3 episodes”, I’m gonna try to shoot for around the 2 hour mark for each mini movie. 4 is the goal, but we will see how the final episodes play out. I think I’ve found a good balance with the 2 mini-movies I’ve put up.

And Cassian on the beach can probably open the arc which features him in prison.

This is currently how I’m gonna use it. That scene will open my “Episode 3” mini-movie.

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I’ve just updated both of the edits…

The Escape: Episodes 1-4 - 2h (42 minutes trimmed overall)
The Heist: Episodes 5-7 - 1h55m (27 minutes trimmed overall)

I was originally going to do this show by arcs, but after watching through these, I feel this flows much better than my original 2 cuts.

But just like every change I’ve made to the episodes so far, these may drastically change by the end. I’m honestly really enjoying the constant challenge each week!

Would love to hear some feedback on these!

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WitchDR said:

I’ve just updated both of the edits…

The Escape: Episodes 1-4 - 2h (42 minutes trimmed overall)
The Heist: Episodes 5-7 - 1h55m (27 minutes trimmed overall)

I was originally going to do this show by arcs, but after watching through these, I feel this flows much better than my original 2 cuts.

But just like every change I’ve made to the episodes so far, these may drastically change by the end. I’m honestly really enjoying the constant challenge each week!

Would love to hear some feedback on these!

Can I get a link please?

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What a way to finish out the Prison arc! Shows been absolutely fantastic.

Now that it’s concluded, I’ve released my episode 3 edit on the Drive link:

The Prison: Episodes 7-10 - 2h06m (21 minutes trimmed overall)

I’ve noticed less and less needing to be cut as this show goes on. It really was those first 4 episodes that needed the most work. Most of what was done with these episodes is just rearranging them to flow better as a movie length episode. My goal was never to radically edit this show (as I think it’s great as is), but to present it by arcs with minor cuts to improve pacing and rearrange it to a more movie-based format.

Also as a side note… I’ve now got smaller file size releases for each episode! Only clocking in at about 8gb for each of them, instead of the 15gb+ first releases. Some slight sharpness may be loss in the smaller file sizes, so I’m also going to keep the 15gb+ releases up as well for those that want the highest quality and don’t mind the huge file size.

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3gb or less please 😄
Having seen your first episode, I think if you add an opening like Rogue One has would be great, especially since I think you can cut out the flashbacks entirely and just put it in text. It is just much better that the opening scene takes place in the rain as it does originally. But if you choose to keep it as is, add a planet card at the start or a pan down to keep it consistant, especially as the following scene says 4BY.

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yoshif8tures said:

3gb or less please 😄

This is do-able, though I can’t speak to the quality. Let me mess around with it and see just how low I can get it.

Having seen your first episode, I think if you add an opening like Rogue One has would be great, especially since I think you can cut out the flashbacks entirely and just put it in text. It is just much better that the opening scene takes place in the rain as it does originally. But if you choose to keep it as is, add a planet card at the start or a pan down to keep it consistent, especially as the following scene says 4BY.

I’m not opposed to removing the flashback entirely, but I’d like to see how the sister plotline concludes first. When we finally see his sister (if we do), there may be even more flashbacks of his time as a kid. If this is the case, I may be able to just move the flashbacks to that point. Do we have an exact date for when the flashback takes place? I’d like to add a ??BBY to it.

When I was first working on the flashback, I tried creating a new opening pan shot of Kenari but just couldn’t find any great footage for it. If only we had a planet shot of it. Maybe we will if Cassian decides to visit the planet at any point in the show.

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Maybe it will, but it really seems like the whole plot line there was dropped and he’s not mentioned his sister in any way whatsoever.
But if it does then I still don’t think it’s necessary, especially if there’s no more flashbacks.
Do you think there’s a better place to put it if you want to keep it? I just don’t think it works well as an opening scene since it feels unimportant.
As to a date, I’m not sure.

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I do agree that it feels dropped, though we don’t really know what Cassian was up to on Niamos before getting taken to the prison. It could have tied into something related to his search for his sister, we just don’t know yet. I’ll wait for the final 2 episodes to make a call on that.

What if I cut the flashback in two? Have the first half from Cassian’s perspective than have the other half later in the episode from Marva’s perspective?

Both scenes could play out as such:

Reinstate the scene of B2EMO showing up to Cassian’s ship when he’s a sleep and he begins to dream about the flashback -> flashback scene plays out up to when Cassian is looking to enter the crashed ship

Reinstate the scene of Marva looking at Cassian’s bedroom and she begins to think about the past when she’s holding Cassian’s spear -> play out the rest of the flashback when Marva enters the crashed ship and takes Cassian

If I did it this way, I could start the show the way it did originally with Cassian on Morlana One. It also breaks up the flashback so it doesn’t overstay it’s welcome.

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Glad to see that you’re still on this. Keep up the good work.

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WitchDR said:

I do agree that it feels dropped, though we don’t really know what Cassian was up to on Niamos before getting taken to the prison. It could have tied into something related to his search for his sister, we just don’t know yet. I’ll wait for the final 2 episodes to make a call on that.

What if I cut the flashback in two? Have the first half from Cassian’s perspective than have the other half later in the episode from Marva’s perspective?

Both scenes could play out as such:

Reinstate the scene of B2EMO showing up to Cassian’s ship when he’s a sleep and he begins to dream about the flashback -> flashback scene plays out up to when Cassian is looking to enter the crashed ship

Reinstate the scene of Marva looking at Cassian’s bedroom and she begins to think about the past when she’s holding Cassian’s spear -> play out the rest of the flashback when Marva enters the crashed ship and takes Cassian

If I did it this way, I could start the show the way it did originally with Cassian on Morlana One. It also breaks up the flashback so it doesn’t overstay it’s welcome.

Breaking it up is probably good if it’s a flashback since it detracts a lot from the main story at this point.

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Alright big update!

I’ve decided once again to do some changes to the first 2 episodes. While I was giving a re-watch as I was working on the flashback, I felt by the end I just wasn’t satisfied with the ending. My original Episode 1 ended with Cassian already settled down with the Heist Team, but it just felt weird having a third of the heist content in my episode 1 edit.

So I’ve decided to move all the heist content to episode 2 only. I originally didn’t want episodes to fluctuate in length too much, but as Eddie stated early in the post, the show really does flow better with concluding each arc per episode. and starting a new arc at the beginning of each.

These are now the new episode releases:

Episode 1: The Pursuit
Includes - Andor Episodes 1, 2, 3, 4
Length: 1 hour & 40 minutes

Episode 2: The Heist
Includes - Andor Episodes 4, 5, 6, 7
Length: 2 hours & 15 minutes

Episode 3: The Prison
Includes - Andor Episodes 7, 8, 9, 10
Length: 2 hours & 6 minutes

I have 15gb+ lossless cuts and some more size-friendly 3gb cuts for those that like the option.

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ChinmayX said:

Glad to see that you’re still on this. Keep up the good work.

Thanks! The show has been a lot of fun to work on. I hope everyone enjoys the cuts!

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yoshif8tures said:

Breaking it up is probably good if it’s a flashback since it detracts a lot from the main story at this point.

I’ve done this with the new version of Episode 1. Let me know if it’s better!