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G&G-Fan
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Did G. Lucas ever intend to portray the Jedi as a flawed institution in the prequels? Or was it added later in the EU?
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5-Oct-2022, 8:20 PM

yotsuya said:

That is how it is supposed to work.

It’s not “how it’s supposed to work”, it’s how it does work. George Lucas says of the Jedi, “They are the most moral of anyone in the galaxy.” He says Jedi are allowed to love. Not just Qui-Gon. All of them.

What Lucas told Dave Filoni about the duel in TPM being truly a duel for the fate of Anakin, makes it clear that this was Lucas’s intent.

No. Lucas didn’t tell Filoni that. Filoni made it up.

Here’s a whole post covering Filoni’s “Duel of the Fates” tangent. In short, almost none of it follows Lucas’ vision. It’s all his headcanon.
https://www.tumblr.com/david-talks-sw/678157778408374273/hi-this-came-about-because-ive-seen-a-few-of?source=share

The rest of the comments are about Jedi in general. But you have to look at the fallen Jedi as well as those who remained in the order to see what Lucas did. The Jedi training did not work for everyone and it periodically failed.

22 Jedi over a thousand years left. Three of them turned to the dark side. These are the exceptions, not the rule. It’s not the fault of the teachings, it’s the fault of the person who refuses to use them.

At the same time, the Jedi weren’t able to deal with Anakin’s fears and teach him how to let go.

It’s not that they didn’t try to help Anakin it’s that Anakin refused the help the Jedi tried to give him.

Rian Johnson tied into this in TLJ with what Luke was saying about the Jedi.

No again. Luke blames the Jedi for his mistake. His arc is realizing that it was his personal failing that led to Ben’s turn and not the result of the Jedi way. He even admits at the end that the Jedi should live on.

https://www.tumblr.com/david-talks-sw/675200100120903680/about-luke-the-jedi-and-attachment?source=share

And going along with that, I’ve noticed an interesting pattern. In TROS we see Rey and Kylo Ren/Ben Solo openly use a force healing power.

Force healing was not come up with by George Lucas. And even if so, force healing is a part of the Jedi way because it’s inherently selfless. So there’s no reason to bring it up.

But in the Prequels, the way the Jedi teach this is to avoid love as it leads to attachment.

George Lucas says otherwise, and in the prequels themselves, nobody says that.

Just admit this is your head canon. Everybody has them.