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Post #1498911

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yotsuya
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Original Trilogy vs Kenobi: inconsistencies and stretches between | Plus in-series issues
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Date created
9-Aug-2022, 12:28 PM

BedeHistory731 said:

Even if yotsuya is being 100% legit, I love that they’re riling up the people here so much. Sometimes the best trolls are the ones who are entirely honest.

At least yotsuya is less predictable than Stardust1138 and doesn’t spam a crap ton of YouTube links. Stardust was under the faulty impression that watching YouTube video essays makes you extra-intelligent. Trolls shouldn’t make you do homework.

I try not to be too predictable. I think my general outlook on things comes from extensive reading of a variety of SF series. Authors who write a series over 30 or more years often end up with some oddities. So it is likely I’m not seeing or caring about things that are driving other people nuts because I learned a long time ago to just roll with some of it.

Part of it lies with the OT itself and how many errors it has. Adywan’s version have corrected quite a number that most of the rest of us don’t even see. I have no interest in that level of exactness and such minor issues don’t spoil my enjoyment of things. I set the bar with A New Hope. In 1977 the premier had a couple of FX shots that were messed up and replaced. Still in there are the many glitches with R2. His misplaced restraining bolt, his coming and going dents, R5-D4 appearing behind him when he is supposed to be 20 feet away, the shots with the wrong background, reordered shots that lead to C-3PO moving when he should be shut down. Then there are the bad FX shots. The smear when the landspeeder drives behind the R2 unit outside the Cantina. This movie won an oscar for its ground breaking FX and some of them from the original version don’t pass muster today. And you would think Lucas would improve things with his tinkering, but he created as many issues as he solved. The rock in front of R2 in the canyon vanishes when R2 moves forward and it doesn’t fit the view R2 has of the Sand People. The windows added to cloud city are inconsistent. The backdrop behind the Millennium Falcon on the Cloud City landing pad are inconsistent. The OT is full of these little issues. It uses old school static matte plates to expand sets and sometimes you can tell. So there is a lot to forgive in the OT. The PT has some bad CG FX. And that is just Star Wars. I’m a fan of Star Trek, Babylon 5, and Doctor Who (classic and new). Star Trek has some whoppers. So anything that might be amiss in the Kenobi series has to be more significant than these to catch my attention.

And as for story, one of my favorite types of stories is the life story. Very few movies handle this, but it isn’t uncommon in books. James Michener’s Centennial covers 200 years with characters dying and new ones coming in. How the West Was Won with Carrie Fisher’s mother, Debbie Reynolds, in the only role that carries through from beginning to end. And so many writers I like who have created series in non-chronological order (either whole books or books and short stories). Xanth in particular carried through over many generations. I think this has prepared me for how older heroes get treated when they get older. And also for how authors tend to shoehorn prequels and inserts into their series. So nothing the Kenobi series did surprises me or feels like it derails the story. There are things I would have done differently. I think Kenobi pulling himself out of his post Order 66 funk could have been done without Inquisitors or Vader. But that isn’t as epic. I think the way fans have reacted to Vader in Rebels and Rogue One meant this was the way it needed to be. And after the fast paced flashy duel in ROTS, there needs to be a reason that Vader is cautious in ANH. So I think much of this series was necessary to fill in a hole.

And if you think I always blindly accept additions, I do not. Star Trek has much that I cannot stand due to quality issues. Star Trek has a formula and when they stray from it it isn’t as good. When they toss it out the window, it is really bad. Two of the recent movies and the first two seasons of Discovery are deplorable for how bad they do Star Trek. Star Wars has a simpler formula. Myths, legends, epic stories, Flash Gordon. I find most of the new entries to be in keeping with that. TLJ and TROS especially. I think BOBF missed the mark, but it wasn’t bad. Just not what it could have been. The Din Djarin episode should have been broken up and shortened. And the totally omitted anything with Boba between ROTS and ANH or anything he did in the OT from his point of view. I don’t think the story they told was bad, just jumbled and missing a bit. So there is a level where I do start to object to things.