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Sounds great! Would love a link to the updated chapters 1 and 2 when finished

“You will find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view” — Obi-Wan Kenobi

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Peonthegrate said:

Sounds great! Would love a link to the updated chapters 1 and 2 when finished

For sure! For the final releases, I have color graded, (hopefully) upscaled to 4k, and unified the logo and credits presentation. Speaking of, check out the new color grading palates I’ve been working on, in addition to the new logo: https://imgur.com/gallery/kBWwrMR

Just a matter of getting everything rendered, upscaled, and uploaded. I might just wait until all 5 are done before sending out so I don’t lose track of having to send a ton of DM’s every time I finish one.

And I suspect I will end up doing a v3 of Books 3/4 since I haven’t received feedback on those yet. All of the other films will be in v3 already upon this release so I’ll count this project done by this weekend aside from some minor bug fixes on those two Books.

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Hello there! I’d love the links to this as well when you’re ready to share them.

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May I please have the link for chapter/film five? Thanks and may the force be with you!

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Peonthegrate said:

Alright, I’ve got some hopefully not too unorganized/vague notes from Chapter 5. I made these as I was watching it.

Overall a great chapter, with most everything being seamless, it turned out quite well.

Now for some of the notes that I think could be improved upon IMO.

  1. The scene around the 5 minute mark works surprisingly much better than I thought it would. Taking the last scene of the show to one of the first and making it work as well as it did was pretty impressive. To improve upon it more, if possible I would try and draw as much attention as possible away from the debris that the citizens are cleaning, and shots of the debris.
    This may be difficult while maintaining the music of the scene by making cuts of certain shots of them simply cleaning the debris. So perhaps it could also help to simply change the music that plays during this scene. As I think the music here works, but could possibly be improved upon by picking something with a slightly different tone. Though I’m not sure what that would be.
    TLDR: This scene works pretty well, but I’d cut as many shots of the debris/cleaning of debris that you can while not making the scene feel choppy with the soundtrack.

I was able to remove a couple shots of the civilians picking up the scorched rubble, but watching it back here it doesn’t seem so out of place that the whole scene is worth cutting. I don’t see anything wrong with people working in the background, maybe it’s just a normal teardown/caaonstruction operation? Surely there’s quite a bit of damage that happens around Boba’s town anyways. I got rid of the more distracting shots but I am not too concerned with the rest.

  1. The initial cut to Mando behind the curtain felt perhaps a bit too harsh/quick. Though part of me liked it at the same time. I’d mess around with a slower cut if possible that eases you into the new scene and see how it looks and compare which is best/most fitting for the scene.

I extended the Din intro scene here and used a feathered wipe on the transition instead. That should help.

  1. The Rancor (fakeout) scene works quite well with the assassin , which I was also surprised by. The main issue with the scene for me however was that you could see the Rancor’s gate/door open too much. I’d try and cut away to the assassins saying the mayor sent him before the viewer can see the gate fully open, revealing that there doesn’t seem to be anything there.

Agreed, I cut the final gate shot so we never seen it open enough where we would have seen at least the Rancor’s foot.

  1. As much as I hate to say it as I don’t enjoy the mods, I felt there should be some sort of introduction to them.
    The original (D+) introduction of the mods was quite drawn out and long, and had that awkward scene of Boba talking with the guy in his palace. But I feel it may be a necessary evil, as it just felt odd having the mods show up out of nowhere as they main 2 are honestly fairly “main, side characters” in this. And it just feels odd not having a proper introduction to them.

TLDR: I think it’s a necessary evil to introduce the mods similarly to the D+ show. But perhaps it can be cut up and trimmed a lot to be much better than D+'s. It’s one of the only things that didn’t fully work for me in the edit.

So I did actually have a scene of the mod gang recruitment that worked really well for Boba’s character, but the main problem was actually finding a spot to place the scene. It just felt so random and tacked on, especially considering that the recruitment scene takes place at night whereas the rest of my Boba content takes place in the same daytime hours. But you saying it’s something that doesn’t fully work as-is means I must find a solution as the current placement of things isn’t feeling digestible. I added the mod recruitment scene as Boba’s second scene now, so the scene order goes like:

  1. 5 Minutes of Boba intro (in his palace and walking the streets)
  2. 5 Minutes of Din intro (fight against Klatoonians)
  3. 3 Minutes Boba recruits mods
  4. 3 Minutes Din collects bounty
  5. 10 Minutes Boba goes to Garza’s and learns of Pykes
  6. 10 minutes Din trains with new Mando coven
  7. 5 Minutes Grogu training

It all actually balanced out really well timing-wise so I’ll have to do a full rewatch to make sure it all works out narratively still, but it does fix the mod gang problem you had.

  1. This is ironic based off of my last point, but I’d try and see if it’s possible to cut/trim up the scene of the mods driving up the the mayor’s office around the 1 hour mark. You didn’t change this scene of them driving up AFAIK so it being a weird scene isn’t on you at all. I just can’t take the scene seriously especially after all the power ranger memes from this scene lol.

TLDR: If possible I’d mess around with cutting/trimming the scene of the mods and Boba driving up to the mayors office.
It’s just a awkward scene because of their out of place speeder bikes and the memes make it even harder to watch. I’d maybe try and cut straight to Boba walking right into the mayor’s building and see how that looks.

I agree with the horrible cartoonish appearance of the bikes, I can just cut straight into Boba walking through the door.

  1. At around 1:27:20 the main cast sorta just seems to teleport into Garzas sanctuary. It feels kind of weird. the scene may need cutting entirely, or rearranging. I don’t recall how this sequence played out in the D+ version, so this may be how it was there too. In either case it feels weird having them straight up teleport during Fennec’s monologue.

  2. I like the idea of this on paper, though in execution I think it didn’t quite work (yet at least). The idea being that, the Marshall initially declines Mandos offer to help out. I was able to tell where the scene was cut up around the 1:24:15 mark and then again to the 1:31:00 mark. I’d perhaps just revert this to the Original D+, as that seems the easiest way to make the scene feel less “edited”.

I’ll combine these two since it’s all tied together. I did completely rebuild the whole segment here from the ground up. I did end up scrapping the “Cobb refuses” idea and reorganized a ton of scenes around here so it seems less like the crew teleports from the palace to Mos Espa. In order to do this, I did have to remove some of the “planning” scenes to make it happen but they were redundant anyways.

  1. In the scene with Cad Bane and Boba talking for the first time, I’d be interested in seeing about cutting some of Fennecs dialogue. I noticed during the D+'s version of the Finale that Fennec seems to be guiding along Boba quite a bit, and though some of that seemed to be cut here, I think it could do with some more cutting. She tends to monologue/explain a bit too much for my liking throughout. Though this may be personal preference.

I had already removed about 75% of her telling Boba what to do in this scene, but I was able to remove one more line from her that was the one that change Boba’s mind, so at least now it’ll seem like he makes the final decision on his own. I’m not able to cut anything else here without losing the tension of the scene though.

  1. This is just a personal gripe that has bugged me since I first saw it on D+. But the scene at 1:45:15 as Fennec is driving away to me always felt so weird because of the strange smile of admiration that the Pale mod has at 1:45:19.
    Personal gripe, I’m sure. It just looks so weird to me lol!

Haha, no I agree there. It’s an unnecessary, super corny 5 second camera zoom in on her face for no reason. Easy enough to cut since it’s distracting.

  1. at 2:04:38 you can see the D+ “CHAPTER 6 FROM THE DESERS COMES A STRANGER” title card.

Oh that was left in there on purpose, I’m trying out the Theory of Relative Titleography and seeing the “Chapter 6” text should evoke a strong sense of familiarity with watching the D+ version. Kidding… It was a remnant attached to the fade. I fixed it. Thanks for pointing it out!

  1. I personally thought what you did with the final montage of Boba getting tribute from everyone in his palace was quite brilliant. Really great idea there. However for me it slightly messed with another one of my favorite scenes (from the D+ version). Which was of Grogu tapping on the glass with the Mandalorian.
    I’d see if there’s any way to perhaps separate the montage of Boba, and the scene of Grogu with Mando in his starfighter some.
    Smudger9 did this scene well, yet very similar in his movie edit. The part that feels a bit off to me in this edit is that Mando being reunited with Grogu should be more… I’m not sure, quiet? I think having the (great, yet not fitting for this scene IMO) music play during their scene together is what throws me off. That and that it was shortened, by not having Grogu tap on the glass.

TLDR: I’d see if you can separate Boba’s montage of getting tribute, and Mando+Grogu reunited scene so it feels more endearing.

I tried to fix this today but I ran out of time. Really having a hard time nailing the timing across these scenes here but I’ll get it done hopefully tomorrow.

It’s a lot of notes I have but I really did enjoy this edit. It’s certainly a very difficult edit to make and I think you’ve done a great job on it. I think with a few tweaks and adjustments it will become the definitive way to view the show (In my opinion of course).

Thanks, this edit is much better after a second pass based on your review.

So I’m finding it’s taking around 14 hours per film to render, upscale, and upload. I’m not actually releasing in 4k because I didn’t notice much difference in the results from the software, but I am upscaling it in HD to remove a lot of the artifacts to simulate a 4k upload. With that said, you can see the math on how long it’ll take! I’ve got 2 PC’s working on rendering and upscaling so it should only be a few days before everything is available to download.

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Wow this all sounds wonderful! I’m super excited to see these in action, I love how transformative you’ve made The Book of Boba for me. And hope you’re able to mess with point 11 like you said, take all the time you need though!

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I actually had another thought while rethinking about the edit, and was curious about your thoughts.

The minute long scene at 38:40 till like 39:40 with Boba in his bathrobe and Fennec feasting at the table always felt a bit weird to me.
Not a fan of any bathrobe Boba moments, and have always found the amount of food to be somewhat cartoonish. As well as not finding any of the dialogue necessary.

I found the whole scene to be one of those “slow Boba moments in his palace” from the original show that I never was a fan of that are mostly cut in this edit.

I was thinking, what if that scene were cut altogether and it cut straight to Garzas sanctuary instead? I’m curious about your thoughts on this and if you think that’s something that can “work”. I thought of this randomly and wasn’t doing a re watch so it’s possible that during a re watch of the whole chapter it may be a necessary scene? I’m unsure, in any case curious what you think.

EDIT: Another reason I don’t think this scene is needed is because the previous scene we get of Boba (at around 20:00) is Boba being very assertive with his final line being “Then we will be ready.” But then the next time we see Boba he is seemingly almost pouting around in his palace eating his chicken in a bathrobe thinking about what to do.

Plus if you cut this scene, that would likely mean you cut straight from Luke saying “The Galaxy is a dangerous place, I will teach you how to protect yourself.” Which would then likely cut to the scene of Black Krassantan causing a ruckus in Garzas Sanctuary, showing the galaxy being a dangerous place so to speak.

“You will find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view” — Obi-Wan Kenobi

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I would love to check out your edit, thanks!

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Peonthegrate said:

I actually had another thought while rethinking about the edit, and was curious about your thoughts.

The minute long scene at 38:40 till like 39:40 with Boba in his bathrobe and Fennec feasting at the table always felt a bit weird to me.
Not a fan of any bathrobe Boba moments, and have always found the amount of food to be somewhat cartoonish. As well as not finding any of the dialogue necessary.

I found the whole scene to be one of those “slow Boba moments in his palace” from the original show that I never was a fan of that are mostly cut in this edit.

I was thinking, what if that scene were cut altogether and it cut straight to Garzas sanctuary instead? I’m curious about your thoughts on this and if you think that’s something that can “work”. I thought of this randomly and wasn’t doing a re watch so it’s possible that during a re watch of the whole chapter it may be a necessary scene? I’m unsure, in any case curious what you think.

EDIT: Another reason I don’t think this scene is needed is because the previous scene we get of Boba (at around 20:00) is Boba being very assertive with his final line being “Then we will be ready.” But then the next time we see Boba he is seemingly almost pouting around in his palace eating his chicken in a bathrobe thinking about what to do.

Plus if you cut this scene, that would likely mean you cut straight from Luke saying “The Galaxy is a dangerous place, I will teach you how to protect yourself.” Which would then likely cut to the scene of Black Krassantan causing a ruckus in Garzas Sanctuary, showing the galaxy being a dangerous place so to speak.

Very good point! I agree wholeheartedly, especially on the thematic element of the transitionary line from Luke. I cut that mopey pajama scene and am rendering Book 5 v2 right now! The Way of Mandalore is complete (save for likely 1-2 bug fix updates).

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I would love to check out your edit, thanks!

I am on pace to have everything ready to send out tomorrow evening!

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Wahoo! Glad to hear, when they’re all rendered and complete would love the updated chapters again! Thanks for making these edits

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Hey, everyone! Sorry for not posting over the weekend. Unfortunately I made a user error in a couple of the film renders and had to redo them. I actually started working on a drat of this project last year, and then began this version of the project by working on my previously rendered films which is why my quality of the source footage wasn’t the best, so the upscaling here is definitely needed. It’s a lengthy process that is taxing my CPU to the max but it’s making things look much better than my v1 releases.

Still on pace to have these links out very soon, apologies for the delay!

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Ah that makes sense, looking forward to it!

“You will find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view” — Obi-Wan Kenobi

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Hi,

I would like a link to get this please.

TIA

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Also curious of any updates! Take all the time you need though

“You will find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view” — Obi-Wan Kenobi

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This sounds really interesting… Would love a link to all 5 chapters if possible?? Cheers…

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Are you still working on chapter five? I am very much looking forward to it!

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Any news on this project?

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Acbagel said:

Hey, everyone! Sorry for not posting over the weekend. Unfortunately I made a user error in a couple of the film renders and had to redo them. I actually started working on a drat of this project last year, and then began this version of the project by working on my previously rendered films which is why my quality of the source footage wasn’t the best, so the upscaling here is definitely needed. It’s a lengthy process that is taxing my CPU to the max but it’s making things look much better than my v1 releases.

Still on pace to have these links out very soon, apologies for the delay!

Still having PC issues? I am looking forward to the next episode. May the force be with you!

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Hello again!

After some time away I think I’m ready to dive back in and finish my vision for this project.

So what happenerd here is that as I was troubleshooting those issues with the rendering (this was mostly user error on my upscaling process as I mentioned before), I got absolutely annihilated by a Windows update bug that blue screen errored me and forced me to reset device to facotry. Thankfully, I had all my files backed up and I use external HDs for most of my editing stuff anyways, so I only had to deal with the hassle of reinstalling every single piece of software on my PC. It doesn’t appear anything related to the project files was lost, but after this setback I just wanted to step away for a time because dealing with that at the end of an already long and taxing project alongside some very consuming real life situations was definitely the tipping point for needing some rest.

I’m still in the process of re-linking everything in my projects and getting everything setup to finish the project, but I don’t think I lost anything permanently thankfully. I have to head out of state for a work trip the rest of this week so I’m thinking next week is looking probable to get everything done and uploaded. The time away was healthy for me, and I’m going to do one more pass on watching everything from a story aspect again so I can deliver the best final product possible. Looking forward to sharing this soon!

Thanks for your patience and your support

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Excellent news, Acbagel- I can’t wait to see this, I think it’s going to be my go-to and I’ve been putting off a rewatch of both shows so that I could watch it all your way. Don’t rush, but I’m very glad your time away was good for you and to have you back!

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Agree with Eddie, I can’t wait to see the final product! Especially Chapter 5 V2 with all the tiny adjustments that had been discusseda few months ago after V1.

I definitely view this as the definitive way to watch the shows IMO!

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Excellent news, Acbagel- I can’t wait to see this, I think it’s going to be my go-to and I’ve been putting off a rewatch of both shows so that I could watch it all your way. Don’t rush, but I’m very glad your time away was good for you and to have you back!

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Agree with Eddie, I can’t wait to see the final product! Especially Chapter 5 V2 with all the tiny adjustments that had been discusseda few months ago after V1.

I definitely view this as the definitive way to watch the shows IMO!

Thanks for the messages of support, I hope to deliver this story to you soon. I am going through every minute of each film now to get it all ready to go. Definitely making a few more changes here and there and will make a post for each film regarding the final story touch ups.

In terms of tracking my progress on the release, I’m simply going to continue to update this post here rather than spam each phase of progress.

Book 1:

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Book 3:

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Book 4:

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Book 1 Final Changes:
(Note, I wasn’t keeping as detailed of a change log when I started way back on Book 1 so there are actually more changes present in this film than the OP shows. But below are the last edits for this final release.)

  • Added intro cards
  • Adjusted audio levels for balance througout film
  • Fixed audio an “pop” bug on a cut
  • Extended one more context scene before the mudhorn battle. The reason they have to enter this territory on the way back is because Din is not riding his mount like he did on the way here, so they have to take a different path back. This explains why Kuuil said the mount is necessary, because presumably you should be jumping over all those valleys that the dangerous wildlife resides in.
  • Re-added line of the Armorer telling Din to use his Whistling Birds sparingly as they are rare. I had originally cut this because Din uses them extremely not sparingly and fires them all mere minutes after installation… But since I have now removed many uses of this weapon throughout my saga, the line now makes sense so it has returned.
  • Trimmed up a good 3 seconds off the Grogu sipping soup gag after the Din-Dune fight. It’s a fine moment that I like to keep in, but it just dragged on cartoonishly long, so now it plays better with the timing of the levity.
  • Added ~7 seconds of Razorcrest flying after leaving Sorgan to give a better transition to landing in the hangar
  • Touched up color correction layers. This film is looking absolutely gorgeous now!

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