“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.
If the prints that you have are of good quality and you can get HD versions of them done, and obtain ROTJ in the future, yours may be one of the few that I'll ever need to download.
The film turned out to be very 'pink' in color working on what we can do to fix this, more reason for this stuff to get preserved. It took a while for the films to go half way around the world. So it is still being worked on.
Originally posted by: sl7 If the prints that you have are of good quality and you can get HD versions of them done, and obtain ROTJ in the future, yours may be one of the few that I'll ever need to download.
Wow. I've never seen a better example of conditional probability in my life!
Seriously, it is a given that good HD versions of all three films would be awesome. But I wouldn't hold my breath that this is going to happen any time soon. Saying "just make an HD transfer of 8mm film" is way, WAY easier than actually doing it. Although I am happy to be proven wrong: anyone who can expedite the process please e-mail me!
Kudos to segaflip for ponying up the cash to get some film, pink or otherwise. That's a huge first step to having something good come of the film transfer idea.
It is nearly impossible to find any of the 'selected scenes' releases on SUper8 that are now not pink or green due to the film stocks that were used, and the fact that almost none of them would have been stored in refridgeration. If anyone does have any versions that still have their original colour, then they should let segaflip know - it would be great to see them get transferred. Also keep in mind that the ones that are around tend to be the 17 or 20 minute 'highlights' versions of the film, not the full theatrical release.
I don't think a heavy color cast on film matters very much. You can quite easily correct colors in photo and video editors and since color resolution isn't as important as monochrome resolution, you probably won't notice the loss after the colors are corrected. Here's a good example of restoring some photo negatives from the 1970s: http://www.californiacoastline.org/dwbphotos.html
Also, there's probably film scanners that can automatically scan a large number of frames on the market at reasonable prices. All it needs is a mechanism to advance the film after completing one scan and software for saving the images automatically.
Originally posted by: ripa I don't think a heavy color cast on film matters very much. You can quite easily correct colors in photo and video editors and since color resolution isn't as important as monochrome resolution, you probably won't notice the loss after the colors are corrected. Here's a good example of restoring some photo negatives from the 1970s: http://www.californiacoastline.org/dwbphotos.html
Also, there's probably film scanners that can automatically scan a large number of frames on the market at reasonable prices. All it needs is a mechanism to advance the film after completing one scan and software for saving the images automatically.
None of the standard film scanners scan more than about 36 frames, so unless you want to cut you film into little strips, that doesn't really work. As noted before, even if scanning and storing a frame every minute, that is 360 days of non stop work doing it for 8hrs a day. (i.e. and entire year). The only real way is with a proper telecine rig that can operate faster and somewhat unattended.
Colour restoration can be done, but it isn't as easy as with stills, the frame to frame variation causes problems and can look really weird as some colours are really lost, so you or the software is taking a punt as to the original colour. You can correct for colour cast, but a lot of information is actually lost when a film shifts off to red or green. You can get acceptable results, but nothing beats a print that isn't faded/shifted to begin with.
“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.
If only it wasn't illegal for them to do it, it would be a good deal - unfortunately no real telecine operation will touch a commercial film with a 100ft barge pole.
“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.
I assure you, it is completely illegal for a commercial telecine company to make a copy of a feature film for someone who is not the copyright holder - no matter what the proposed usage, lack of profit or otherwise.
If you can find a single company anywhere that will do it, I'll send you a free kangaroo.
I agree that it is highly annoying however, especially if you were the 'owner' of a copy on film that is degrading, and you are not allowed to get anyone to make a preservation copy for you. (In fact under the terms the films were released under, it may be illegal even to 'own' the film itself - depends on where you live).
At around $60,000 a pop, purchasing your own Rank Cintel is a pricey option
“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.