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Looks like we are getting a 4k version of the SLV and bluray versions of the deleted scenes.

Any word on if those few bad shots are being fixed?

Nothing official yet. I’d be surprised if they did but then I’m surprised they are releasing it in 4k at all.

Edit: Apparently David C Fein confirmed on Twitter that they added digital effects to the airlock scene! That bodes well for a cleaned up version!

So this should be the best version of the movie then.

Hmm, I like a lot of the edits in the DE but I also like the character scenes from the SLV. You won’t find any consensus over which version is best.

I meant in regards to the effects that had no work done on them a look bad getting fixed. I can’t talk about the quality of the movie because I never seen any of og Star Trek same goes for most of Star Trek the next generation.

Actually Star Trek the Motion Picture remains a visually impressive movie even before you take it into account that it is 40 years old. They mostly just improved overall picture and sound.

There are still a few minor issues and many people find the movie itself to be a bit slow, but those that love it, really love it.

The only scene that needs significant polish in the new version is the officers’ lounge. Personally, I think the original was fine, but some people were confused about where it was on the ship. Picking one of the smaller lounges elsewhere on the ship and picking a star field appropriate for that location would be fine.

These shots are the only ones that I think are bad in the director’s cut not sure if there’s more.

https://i.postimg.cc/bDJNtGb7/4595-F073-F14-E-4-C41-9990-2-E077-F1-AE744.png[/img][/url]

https://i.postimg.cc/xkg18GkG/C035-BC64-C3-B2-42-B6-A0-E1-0-C08080-B0621.png[/img][/url]

Yes the problem I found was that due to aspect ratio and colour grade of the various existing versions it meant that it’s not possible to just fix the problem frames. You have to do the whole shot.

David c Fein described the rotoscoping as ‘quick and dirty’ so I am going to wait and see if it gets improved in the 4k release before putting in too much effort.

I hope the improvement is actually good and not a garbage rush job. I hope we see it sooner than sept.

Release date is 5th September 2022. I’m not expecting any changes but you never know.

You said this. David c Fein described the rotoscoping as ‘quick and dirty’ so I am going to wait and see if it gets improved in the 4k release before putting in too much effort. So are those shots what he was talking about or not?

Yes he was referencing the lounge scenes but they would only be improved if the Paramount release was ahead of schedule i.e. before the project was finalised. There was no additional budget for a do-over.

So it’s always going to look like garbage good job paramount.

Too soon to say. My own version will be the version of the scene I like the most. The rest of the release is fairly close to perfect with more than a few wow moments when I saw it for the first time. One slightly dodgy scene doesn’t detract completely from all the other great stuff in this release.

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Fullmetaled said:

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Pauln6 said:

Looks like we are getting a 4k version of the SLV and bluray versions of the deleted scenes.

Any word on if those few bad shots are being fixed?

Nothing official yet. I’d be surprised if they did but then I’m surprised they are releasing it in 4k at all.

Edit: Apparently David C Fein confirmed on Twitter that they added digital effects to the airlock scene! That bodes well for a cleaned up version!

So this should be the best version of the movie then.

Hmm, I like a lot of the edits in the DE but I also like the character scenes from the SLV. You won’t find any consensus over which version is best.

I meant in regards to the effects that had no work done on them a look bad getting fixed. I can’t talk about the quality of the movie because I never seen any of og Star Trek same goes for most of Star Trek the next generation.

Actually Star Trek the Motion Picture remains a visually impressive movie even before you take it into account that it is 40 years old. They mostly just improved overall picture and sound.

There are still a few minor issues and many people find the movie itself to be a bit slow, but those that love it, really love it.

The only scene that needs significant polish in the new version is the officers’ lounge. Personally, I think the original was fine, but some people were confused about where it was on the ship. Picking one of the smaller lounges elsewhere on the ship and picking a star field appropriate for that location would be fine.

These shots are the only ones that I think are bad in the director’s cut not sure if there’s more.

https://i.postimg.cc/bDJNtGb7/4595-F073-F14-E-4-C41-9990-2-E077-F1-AE744.png[/img][/url]

https://i.postimg.cc/xkg18GkG/C035-BC64-C3-B2-42-B6-A0-E1-0-C08080-B0621.png[/img][/url]

Yes the problem I found was that due to aspect ratio and colour grade of the various existing versions it meant that it’s not possible to just fix the problem frames. You have to do the whole shot.

David c Fein described the rotoscoping as ‘quick and dirty’ so I am going to wait and see if it gets improved in the 4k release before putting in too much effort.

I hope the improvement is actually good and not a garbage rush job. I hope we see it sooner than sept.

Release date is 5th September 2022. I’m not expecting any changes but you never know.

You said this. David c Fein described the rotoscoping as ‘quick and dirty’ so I am going to wait and see if it gets improved in the 4k release before putting in too much effort. So are those shots what he was talking about or not?

Yes he was referencing the lounge scenes but they would only be improved if the Paramount release was ahead of schedule i.e. before the project was finalised. There was no additional budget for a do-over.

So it’s always going to look like garbage good job paramount.

Too soon to say. My own version will be the version of the scene I like the most. The rest of the release is fairly close to perfect with more than a few wow moments when I saw it for the first time. One slightly dodgy scene doesn’t detract completely from all the other great stuff in this release.

No but it shouldn’t have gotten pass quality control how it was missed amazes me.

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I meant in regards to the effects that had no work done on them a look bad getting fixed. I can’t talk about the quality of the movie because I never seen any of og Star Trek same goes for most of Star Trek the next generation.

Not that I disagree with the notion that some of the effects work on this doesn’t look great, but why exactly are you invested in this without having seen the film, lol?

I would strongly recommend watching “the Motion Picture” when it releases on disc. The vintage effects work is stunning, and while others will point to Khan as more emblematic of the relationships at the core of Trek (and I probably agree), I find that TMP’s serious take on high concept sci-fi makes for easily the best Star Trek film. This is particularly with the final (and very necessary) pass on the editing and sound design the director’s edition offers. And outside of the context of Trek, what I think often gets dismissed as middlebrow space fare genuinely deserves a place among Wise’s best efforts.

The fact we have this in UHD, even with its (expected) shortcomings is fantastic and I recommend you give it a shot (the rotowork is bad, but it goes by in a minute 😉 ).

Star Trek: The Motion Picture DE - The Anti-DNR Fanedit
Duel (1971) - The Hybrid Cut
The Phantom of the Opera - 1925 Version Reconstruction - Rare Scores Collection - Roy Budd Score

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A person on Blu-ray.com forum said this about the bad shot.

the person involved with the special effects for the restoration was on a podcast a couple of weeks ago and he explained that they did the best that they could do under the circumstances with that scene. He said they were unable to locate the live action footage of the actors against a blue screen. If they had that it would be much easier to lay in a different background that wouldn’t have the problems that the current version does. So basically he’s saying they did the best they could with the time and the money that they had and that it respects the wishes of the original concept and storyboards.

This is disappointing to hear it means it can never be fixed. 😦

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Pauln6 said:

Looks like we are getting a 4k version of the SLV and bluray versions of the deleted scenes.

Any word on if those few bad shots are being fixed?

Nothing official yet. I’d be surprised if they did but then I’m surprised they are releasing it in 4k at all.

Edit: Apparently David C Fein confirmed on Twitter that they added digital effects to the airlock scene! That bodes well for a cleaned up version!

So this should be the best version of the movie then.

Hmm, I like a lot of the edits in the DE but I also like the character scenes from the SLV. You won’t find any consensus over which version is best.

I meant in regards to the effects that had no work done on them a look bad getting fixed. I can’t talk about the quality of the movie because I never seen any of og Star Trek same goes for most of Star Trek the next generation.

Actually Star Trek the Motion Picture remains a visually impressive movie even before you take it into account that it is 40 years old. They mostly just improved overall picture and sound.

There are still a few minor issues and many people find the movie itself to be a bit slow, but those that love it, really love it.

The only scene that needs significant polish in the new version is the officers’ lounge. Personally, I think the original was fine, but some people were confused about where it was on the ship. Picking one of the smaller lounges elsewhere on the ship and picking a star field appropriate for that location would be fine.

These shots are the only ones that I think are bad in the director’s cut not sure if there’s more.

https://i.postimg.cc/bDJNtGb7/4595-F073-F14-E-4-C41-9990-2-E077-F1-AE744.png[/img][/url]

https://i.postimg.cc/xkg18GkG/C035-BC64-C3-B2-42-B6-A0-E1-0-C08080-B0621.png[/img][/url]

Yes the problem I found was that due to aspect ratio and colour grade of the various existing versions it meant that it’s not possible to just fix the problem frames. You have to do the whole shot.

David c Fein described the rotoscoping as ‘quick and dirty’ so I am going to wait and see if it gets improved in the 4k release before putting in too much effort.

I hope the improvement is actually good and not a garbage rush job. I hope we see it sooner than sept.

Release date is 5th September 2022. I’m not expecting any changes but you never know.

You said this. David c Fein described the rotoscoping as ‘quick and dirty’ so I am going to wait and see if it gets improved in the 4k release before putting in too much effort. So are those shots what he was talking about or not?

Yes he was referencing the lounge scenes but they would only be improved if the Paramount release was ahead of schedule i.e. before the project was finalised. There was no additional budget for a do-over.

So it’s always going to look like garbage good job paramount.

Too soon to say. My own version will be the version of the scene I like the most. The rest of the release is fairly close to perfect with more than a few wow moments when I saw it for the first time. One slightly dodgy scene doesn’t detract completely from all the other great stuff in this release.

What’s the version of the scene you like look like?

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Fullmetaled said:

Pauln6 said:

Fullmetaled said:

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Pauln6 said:

Fullmetaled said:

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Fullmetaled said:

Pauln6 said:

Fullmetaled said:

Pauln6 said:

Fullmetaled said:

Pauln6 said:

Looks like we are getting a 4k version of the SLV and bluray versions of the deleted scenes.

Any word on if those few bad shots are being fixed?

Nothing official yet. I’d be surprised if they did but then I’m surprised they are releasing it in 4k at all.

Edit: Apparently David C Fein confirmed on Twitter that they added digital effects to the airlock scene! That bodes well for a cleaned up version!

So this should be the best version of the movie then.

Hmm, I like a lot of the edits in the DE but I also like the character scenes from the SLV. You won’t find any consensus over which version is best.

I meant in regards to the effects that had no work done on them a look bad getting fixed. I can’t talk about the quality of the movie because I never seen any of og Star Trek same goes for most of Star Trek the next generation.

Actually Star Trek the Motion Picture remains a visually impressive movie even before you take it into account that it is 40 years old. They mostly just improved overall picture and sound.

There are still a few minor issues and many people find the movie itself to be a bit slow, but those that love it, really love it.

The only scene that needs significant polish in the new version is the officers’ lounge. Personally, I think the original was fine, but some people were confused about where it was on the ship. Picking one of the smaller lounges elsewhere on the ship and picking a star field appropriate for that location would be fine.

These shots are the only ones that I think are bad in the director’s cut not sure if there’s more.

https://i.postimg.cc/bDJNtGb7/4595-F073-F14-E-4-C41-9990-2-E077-F1-AE744.png[/img][/url]

https://i.postimg.cc/xkg18GkG/C035-BC64-C3-B2-42-B6-A0-E1-0-C08080-B0621.png[/img][/url]

Yes the problem I found was that due to aspect ratio and colour grade of the various existing versions it meant that it’s not possible to just fix the problem frames. You have to do the whole shot.

David c Fein described the rotoscoping as ‘quick and dirty’ so I am going to wait and see if it gets improved in the 4k release before putting in too much effort.

I hope the improvement is actually good and not a garbage rush job. I hope we see it sooner than sept.

Release date is 5th September 2022. I’m not expecting any changes but you never know.

You said this. David c Fein described the rotoscoping as ‘quick and dirty’ so I am going to wait and see if it gets improved in the 4k release before putting in too much effort. So are those shots what he was talking about or not?

Yes he was referencing the lounge scenes but they would only be improved if the Paramount release was ahead of schedule i.e. before the project was finalised. There was no additional budget for a do-over.

So it’s always going to look like garbage good job paramount.

Too soon to say. My own version will be the version of the scene I like the most. The rest of the release is fairly close to perfect with more than a few wow moments when I saw it for the first time. One slightly dodgy scene doesn’t detract completely from all the other great stuff in this release.

What’s the version of the scene you like look like?

I never really had a problem with the original but I admire the effort they put into the others. I think it will depend on whether I can merge the different versions or not.

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Pauln6 said:

Fullmetaled said:

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Pauln6 said:

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Pauln6 said:

Fullmetaled said:

Pauln6 said:

Fullmetaled said:

Pauln6 said:

Fullmetaled said:

Pauln6 said:

Looks like we are getting a 4k version of the SLV and bluray versions of the deleted scenes.

Any word on if those few bad shots are being fixed?

Nothing official yet. I’d be surprised if they did but then I’m surprised they are releasing it in 4k at all.

Edit: Apparently David C Fein confirmed on Twitter that they added digital effects to the airlock scene! That bodes well for a cleaned up version!

So this should be the best version of the movie then.

Hmm, I like a lot of the edits in the DE but I also like the character scenes from the SLV. You won’t find any consensus over which version is best.

I meant in regards to the effects that had no work done on them a look bad getting fixed. I can’t talk about the quality of the movie because I never seen any of og Star Trek same goes for most of Star Trek the next generation.

Actually Star Trek the Motion Picture remains a visually impressive movie even before you take it into account that it is 40 years old. They mostly just improved overall picture and sound.

There are still a few minor issues and many people find the movie itself to be a bit slow, but those that love it, really love it.

The only scene that needs significant polish in the new version is the officers’ lounge. Personally, I think the original was fine, but some people were confused about where it was on the ship. Picking one of the smaller lounges elsewhere on the ship and picking a star field appropriate for that location would be fine.

These shots are the only ones that I think are bad in the director’s cut not sure if there’s more.

https://i.postimg.cc/bDJNtGb7/4595-F073-F14-E-4-C41-9990-2-E077-F1-AE744.png[/img][/url]

https://i.postimg.cc/xkg18GkG/C035-BC64-C3-B2-42-B6-A0-E1-0-C08080-B0621.png[/img][/url]

Yes the problem I found was that due to aspect ratio and colour grade of the various existing versions it meant that it’s not possible to just fix the problem frames. You have to do the whole shot.

David c Fein described the rotoscoping as ‘quick and dirty’ so I am going to wait and see if it gets improved in the 4k release before putting in too much effort.

I hope the improvement is actually good and not a garbage rush job. I hope we see it sooner than sept.

Release date is 5th September 2022. I’m not expecting any changes but you never know.

You said this. David c Fein described the rotoscoping as ‘quick and dirty’ so I am going to wait and see if it gets improved in the 4k release before putting in too much effort. So are those shots what he was talking about or not?

Yes he was referencing the lounge scenes but they would only be improved if the Paramount release was ahead of schedule i.e. before the project was finalised. There was no additional budget for a do-over.

So it’s always going to look like garbage good job paramount.

Too soon to say. My own version will be the version of the scene I like the most. The rest of the release is fairly close to perfect with more than a few wow moments when I saw it for the first time. One slightly dodgy scene doesn’t detract completely from all the other great stuff in this release.

What’s the version of the scene you like look like?

I never really had a problem with the original but I admire the effort they put into the others. I think it will depend on whether I can merge the different versions or not.

What does it look like on the dvd version of the director’s cut?

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What the heck were they going for but failed with the 4k version of that scene?

I don’t recall the why’s behind it, but this is what they were going for… In the DVD version the windows are supposed to be ones on the (back right) edge of the saucer (these windows can be seen on the model IIRC). I believe this location of the lounge is the case for the TR as well, but the effects team didn’t have time to composite in the nacelle as would be proper for that view (so the 2001 DE team tried to fix that “incomplete effects shot”).

For the 4k they have switched to having our people in the area at the back of the large lump atop the saucer, which has different shaped windows (as per what we see behind our characters in the 4k version). Again, I don’t recall the issue that prompted this change, but hopefully that explains a little what you see in those pics.

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The Probert concept was for a grand officer lounge:

Probert

(as seen in the final film here when Spock’s shuttle approaches):

TMP

They had to scrap this as they were behind on budget and time.

Both DC changes (first adding the nacelles and then adding this backdrop) are at attempt to bring this to the film.
Both attempts unfortunately look very poor and they should have just avoided doing so (the added nacelles screw with the visual weight of the frame, and the attempt to blow out the wall looks amateurish). This video is a decent illustration of what they are conceptually going for, though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU1-crmRpCc

Star Trek: The Motion Picture DE - The Anti-DNR Fanedit
Duel (1971) - The Hybrid Cut
The Phantom of the Opera - 1925 Version Reconstruction - Rare Scores Collection - Roy Budd Score

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The Probert concept was for a grand officer lounge:

Probert

(as seen in the final film here when Spock’s shuttle approaches):

TMP

They had to scrap this as they were behind on budget and time.

Both DC changes (first adding the nacelles and then adding this backdrop) are at attempt to bring this to the film.
Both attempts unfortunately look very poor and they should have just avoided doing so (the added nacelles screw with the visual weight of the frame, and the attempt to blow out the wall looks amateurish). This video is a decent illustration of what they are conceptually going for, though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU1-crmRpCc

It was possible to update the effects in empire strikes back with adywan doing hoth with revisited so how is this impossible for a fan or even a major studio to do?

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It was possible to update the effects in empire strikes back with adywan doing hoth with revisited so how is this impossible for a fan or even a major studio to do?

[Edit: Oops, this turned out long, sorry!] Fans don’t have time constraints and budgets restrictions and more. Pros have to coordinate with other individuals and other departments and deal with hardware set-ups that may not be their first choice, and they have to show their output to studio higher-ups for approval, and more. It’s a complicated web, mess, of interaction surely always walking a tightrope due to time constraints, rarely with a blank check safety net.

A fan, on the other hand, can work on only what they want, at their leisure, pick projects to begin with that are within their parameters of full comfort/desire, use only their fave software on a computer system they built themselves, do all this without having to answer to anyone else. A fan can seek help from others on their own terms (without legal hassles/contracts or even without paying someone) if there’s a bit they personally can’t quite do something themselves. (Because he couldn’t do such himself I did CG shots on Adywan’s New Hope Revisited — the Death Star plans graphics and the “40 Tie Fighters flying in” — I worked on those bits off and on for ten months; so he got targeted skill goals met for those shots of his project without having to pay anyone, deal with paperwork, etc., unlike professional studio environments that have to coordinate and juggle all that and more, especially budget.)

These guys/gals at studio departments surely have MASSIVE lists of things they have to get done within a time frame. One bit of my work on Adywan’s New Hope was making a Death Star mesh from scratch. That took me about a month, me working on it when I was in the mood, only when I felt charged to do the work. I could take a month “having fun” with it because there was no deadline. What if I had a five-day crunch to do it, couldn’t “hire” anyone to assist me for the more tedious parts of the modeling (couldn’t get help even for free because of legal reasons) and on my workload list for the whole project was also to make meshes for the three Star Destroyer types, Tie Bomber mesh, several beat-up variant meshes of X-Wings, Luke’s landspeeder with 100% matching damage to what’s in the film, and an AT-AT? Yes, I will have accepted the work because I thought I could do it, but what about any snags cropping up (like Covid or whatever)? What if I was locked to a partner on the project — he does texturing while I do modeling — and it turned out he was tripping up and dragging me down like an anchor while we’re on deadline and I couldn’t just replace him as my partner due to seniority structure? And if he and I tripped up, took longer than we were supposed to, the cost might be that the scene layout/rendering department would have to make up time by implementing some unfortunate shortcuts like sloppy compositing and shittier-quality rendering.

Getting a fan to help… There are pipelines that work certain ways; I imagine it’s not as easy as just getting a fan to do this shot or that and wallah, put their work into that of teams of professionals. Yes, one would think, but for reasons I’m not privy too it rarely seems to work out this way.

The solution of course is for Paramount to spend more money, hire more people to spread out the workload, but… When it comes to big studio spending, who knows what’s going on? So much messiness when it comes to that kind of thing. Let’s compare real quick the new Obi Wan Kenobi series and the latest Orville ep 4. I’m not a big fan of The Orville overall, but one has to admit that at times — yeah, I have s03xe04 stuck in my head — Orville looks a LOT better than pretty much everything in OWK, even though the latter has a budget of $25m per episode. What’s the excuse? OKW is official modern Star Wars, starring cast from Lucas-directed films, and freakin’ Trek parody Orville has much better effects (and a kicker is that ultimately both are Disney shows so one can’t even point out the studios making just have different philosophies). There’s surely a lot going on when having to coordinate thousands of people under contracts and such that make it messy in ways that are hard to both comprehend.

I’ll cease my rambling now. 😃

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@WXM can you improve the shot like what was done with the empire strikes back scenes in revisited like what was done to the green screen scenes etc.

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Fullmetaled said:

@WXM can you improve the shot like what was done with the empire strikes back scenes in revisited like what was done to the green screen scenes etc.

I’ve ceased doing elaborate help because I’ve kind of fallen behind the times on software; I’m far from a lot of the fan effects gurus around now, and honestly I’ve just learned that for me it’s a little too thankless in the end to put so much mind power and such into these kinds of things that can take a long time and/or are elaborate (unlike cleaning up specks/scratches from a couple of minutes of Brave Little Toaster).

However, I’m guessing there will be at least one talented fan who’ll tackle the lounge shot and do a great job of it, surely better than I could do with my limited software. With the 4k of the TR/SLV to give everyone great foundation footage, yeah, don’t worry, someone will tackle it and have it look awesome 😃

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Fullmetaled said:

@WXM can you improve the shot like what was done with the empire strikes back scenes in revisited like what was done to the green screen scenes etc.

I’ve ceased doing elaborate help because I’ve kind of fallen behind the times on software; I’m far from a lot of the fan effects gurus around now, and honestly I’ve just learned that for me it’s a little too thankless in the end to put so much mind power and such into these kinds of things that can take a long time and/or are elaborate (unlike cleaning up specks/scratches from a couple of minutes of Brave Little Toaster).

However, I’m guessing there will be at least one talented fan who’ll tackle the lounge shot and do a great job of it, surely better than I could do with my limited software. With the 4k of the TR/SLV to give everyone great foundation footage, yeah, don’t worry, someone will tackle it and have it look awesome 😃

That’s good to hear can’t wait to see that person’s edit of that scene and hope they can fix the green screen outlines on the crew of the enterprise.

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ElectricTriangle said:

The Probert concept was for…

Thanks for that info and the images. I think I read about that back in 2001-ish, but obviously it slipped out of my mind since. Nice and concise tell and show of what it was supposed to be! 😃

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Ri~Lei said:

Greetings, I personally would not mind–even would enjoy–such a color-correction, please.

~Waz

Thanks for the interest. However, things have changed since I posted that comment and I’m gonna first wait for the blu-ray release of The Director’s Edition to see if many of these problems of the digital version gets resolved which would make my recolor of the film moot. But if that doesn’t happen then I will send you a link to my version of the film. That being said, I would like to have another go at redoing the color because some of the scenes look a little too pink in some places. This is due to the fact that the original’s color balance is inconsistent between scenes.

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I’m not having hope those shots will be completely better but were they even remotely worked on at all on the uhd blu ray if not I get it but I’m just curious since no one has talk about those shots on the uhd yet and some people already have review copies.

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I’m not having hope those shots will be completely better but were they even remotely worked on at all on the uhd blu ray if not I get it but I’m just curious since no one has talk about those shots on the uhd yet and some people already have review copies.

You’d think the first thing that anybody that got a review copy would be to check to see if they fixed those shots. I’m actually surprised just how few people were bothered by these problems because to me they were jarring. The first time I watched it was on my gaming PC with headphones, I just thought to myself “maybe these problems are not as noticeable on my projector”, but no, it actually is more apparent on a larger screen even though it was only a 1080p projector.

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On the big screen, it was only the final McCoy shot that was jarring.

I’m wondering if the thing to do is put the meeting in a small lounge in the neck (where there are square windows) and just change the direction of the starfield?

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This is quite interesting. Looks like we will be getting HD footage of Scotty and Ilia, plus the killed security guard (presumably without effects) and alternate log entry including the dead security guard.

Also some HD memory wall footage will be included as part of the documentary, although it’s unclear how much, or whether that will include any kind of dialogue or post production effects.

This does raise the tantalising possibility that a version of the Memory Wall could be cobbled together.

My own intended version was to put Janice Rand in Spock’s space suit (since most characters are required elsewhere for the story). It might be possible to use deep motion to synchronise a CGI avatar (I have one in Character Creator) which can be further enhanced by Deepfake but that still leaves the issue of scaling (she is 6 inches shorter than Nimoy) and special effects for the light bees.

I’m very interested to see how much there is to work with.

For the officers lounge, I’m starting to wonder if the best option is to relocate the scene to an alternative lounge lower on the ship and change the star field to a side on view. Not many square windows though.

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MXDash said:

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I’m not having hope those shots will be completely better but were they even remotely worked on at all on the uhd blu ray if not I get it but I’m just curious since no one has talk about those shots on the uhd yet and some people already have review copies.

You’d think the first thing that anybody that got a review copy would be to check to see if they fixed those shots. I’m actually surprised just how few people were bothered by these problems because to me they were jarring. The first time I watched it was on my gaming PC with headphones, I just thought to myself “maybe these problems are not as noticeable on my projector”, but no, it actually is more apparent on a larger screen even though it was only a 1080p projector.

I finally got a message about the shots the twitter user showed an image and sadly it barely looks better they might as well have not have done anything it still looks bad sadly. 😦

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Early reports suggest that the security guard scene is missing phaser shot and documentary doesn’t contain any new memory wall footage. That’s sort of a disappointment and a relief.

I was looking forward to seeing what could be done with the Memory Wall - I even prepped some pre-emptive dialogue but it would have been a huge challenge. I wonder how easy it will be to add a phaser effect? It may depend on how easy it is to stitch the new scene and log entry into the existing soundtrack. There is a separate. Music track in the set but still.

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OK I have the boxed set. Sadly I have, too late, realised that my player only upscales blurays to 4k and doesn’t in any way play 4k discs. Sigh. I will see what I can do but it will otherwise be several weeks before I can check this out.

I have watched the bonus disc bluray and I have tweaked the scenes into a format where they can sit alongside the movie. The obituary has a music track so that will be the tricky one.

Edit: https://youtu.be/rwj0aCbt3W8

I tried to fill in the dialogue but it might be easier to edit the original by adding off camera dialogue. Going to check out that option next. Kirk does mention Phillips in the Ultimate Computer but it doesn’t sit well next to the Security Officer from the Savage Curtain.