FFS, nowhere did i say that Marcia put the footage back in and George didn’t notice and not once did i credit marcia with the force. I just watched the doc again and it’s not actually Marcia that says george Started taking some mentions of the force out of the movie, most notably when Han tells Luke " May the force be with you" in the Yavin hangar, it’s Howard Kazanjian. Marcia says that when she saw the next screening , she noticed he had cut the force out in a couple of places, and then its said by Howard that she added these cuts back in. George got cold feet and worried after what his friend, who he respected, had told him after the screening. He had a wobble, nothing more. It’s not some great conspiracy theory against George. He respected Marcia’s opinion on things. He listened. They were a great team.
And using "Ancient Aliens " as an example of inaccurate docs? Really?
I didn’t bother with Paul’s book because of the amount of inaccuracies in it. Things that were widely know through various multiple sources and not just from one man.
You know full well George has changed his story throughout the years on the making of these films that contradict what actual proof we have an also from multiple accounts from the people who worked on the films, but you seem to only want to believe things that come out of George’s mouth and consider anyone’s accounts that don’t tow the "George " line as nothing more than people wanting to take credit for George’s work and from bitter people.
I’m done with this argument. I don’t see why you felt the need to be so rude toward what i said when i was just repeating what was relayed in this documentary episode. But you kind of proved my original jokey point when i said that Lucas Worshipers wouldn’t be happy with this doc. I only talk about one small section of the second episode and you blow up toward me for no reason.
Ooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ok, that makes a lot more sense. I apologize, truly. The way you worded it saying she added it “behind Lucas’ back” made me think that was the implication. But it was wrong of me to jump on you like that.
I don’t think George Lucas is perfect. The prequels have their flaws and I do understand that it wasn’t all him that made the original trilogy. Richard, Marcia and Paul contributed a great deal (even if Paul hyped himself up to a ridiculous degree). But I also think people shouldn’t attack George by saying things that imply that A New Hope or the original trilogy in general being good had nothing to do with him, that Star Wars was garbage until it was edited by his wife. Whether you like the prequels or not, he was an integral part to the original trilogy.
Hey, no worries. It’s difficult at times to gauge what someone is actually meaning through a post in a forum. I’m not great at portraying what i want to say in forum posts. I hear in my head what i want to write and it doesn’t always come across how i intend it to , which is why i shy away from posting lot of time time lately. So, as Vader said, “Apology accepted…” 😉 I need to apologise too for being a bit snappy toward you. I’m working on my edit at the moment, stuck in a room in front of the PC while its bloody baking here in the UK at the moment, and no air conditioning, so i got a little short tempered, Again, sorry.
I’m not one of those in the camp that think that everyone else was the reason why the OT was so great. Everyone played their part in it’s long lasting success. It was a team effort.
Funny you say about ANH sucking before Marcia/ Paul and Richard got their hands on it in the editing suite because, by all accounts, it did. But that was down to the original editor not understanding what Star Wars was about and him ignoring George and editing it into a more of a comedy , which is touched on in this doc. Using takes that swayed more towards the comedic than any sort of real emotion. It was thanks to seeing Jympson’s edits that got the Fox execs nervous and wanting to shut production down and pile all the pressure on George.
Sadly, over the years, the marketing machine has distorted so much of the truths behind these films productions. Older interviews were so much better before all the " it was planned out all along/ it was always the story of Darth Vader" spiel. It seems so many have had their roles downgraded or even erased by the marketing machine and sadly George became what he fought against so hard when he was younger. He became the Empire and you can sadly see how, in later years, it changed him.
But Star Wars WAS saved in the edit. All films are made or broken by the edit. If the studio had forced George to go with Jympson’s edit, it’s highly doubtful we would be here today talking about Star Wars so passionately. But to see articles and videos claiming that Star Wars was saved in the edit because of George lack of involvement, is just ridiculous.