Never thought I’d ever defend this shitty television program
Nearly 20 years we thought, nearly two decades, a generation. Now instead only 8-9 years. Not such a long time, now.
Do you not think 9 years is a long time?
If Vader can stop a ship leaving a port and pull it to the floor in the Kenobi series, then he would also be able to repeat this in later Star Wars releases too? On the Tantive or Falcon, maybe?
The Falcon’s probably moving way too fast. As for the Tantive, who cares what Rogue One has to say lol
To me this dialogue renders Obi-Wan in ROTJ telling Luke his “from a certain point of view” story about Vader murdering his father being true as now being quite strange. These words comes from Vader’s own mouth, so it was NOT a deception, or anywhere near a big a stretch as previously, or “from a certain point of view” on Kenobi’s part, in Return Of The Jedi.
Who cares
Yet 8-9 later Vader will taunt Kenobi when they meet again on the Death Star: “Your powers are weak, old man”. This is at the start of the duel and well before Obi-Wan lets Vader strike him down. However, this time around Obi-Wan hasn’t cut himself off from the Force for the past 8-9 years. He has been communing with Qui-Gon and Yoda, continuing the training that Yoda had for him now that he can converse with Qui-Gon again. Probably along with other practicing of Force abilities during this time too. So why are Kenobi’s powers now so weak?
This is a Mauler-tier nitpick. Obi-Wan is about to, minutes from now, become more powerful than Vader could ever imagine. I’m really surprised you take issue with this, it’s not actually a plot point that Obi-Wan’s powers are actually weak, this is just villain dialogue. He’s a Sith and thinks everyone’s powers are weak except for other Sith.
"General Kenobi. Years ago, you served my father in the Clone Wars; now he begs you to help him in his struggle against the Empire. I regret that I am unable to present my father’s request to you in person; but my ship has fallen under attack and I’m afraid my mission to Alderaan has failed. I’ve placed information vital to the survival of the Rebellion into the memory systems of this R2 unit. My father will know how to retrieve it. You must see this droid safely delivered to him on Alderaan. This is our most desperate hour. Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi; you’re my only hope".
This dialogue does not at all seem weird for someone who knew someone else for a week almost a decade ago. If the line about Leia keeping it a secret that she met Obi-Wan is actually supposed to be an explanation for this, I have no idea why they felt that necessary.
Bail Organa: “He served me well during the Clone Wars and has lived in hiding since the Emperor’s purge. Yes, I will send for him.”
This has not changed
Why did Obi-Wan even disconnect from the force and bury the lightsabers if he’s supposed to be watching over and protecting Luke? With the aim of training him when the time comes (we even see him ask Uncle Owen about this in episode 1). How did he expect to be able to do that?
By digging them up? Like he does in the show?
However, how is Reva aware that Kenobi doesn’t know Anakin is alive?
Television shows shouldn’t have to hold your hand through every little detail. Who cares? It’s not like it’s difficult to believe or anything, all she has to know is the basics of how their fight ended on Mustafar.
Yet they don’t seem to have a picture, or description, of the Jedi they are actually looking for?
This is an observation, not a criticism.
Why does Vader stand there doing nothing after the Tala shoots and ignites a new fire to somehow stop Vader torturing Kenobi? Then Vader simply waits and watches for the slow moving loader droid to come rescue Kenobi and then slowly carry him off to safety?
Why do characters do anything ever? It’s a pretty massive fire. What did you want here, Vader to start expositing why he doesn’t kill himself walking to get Obi-Wan? Or why he doesn’t cast Force Pull™ on a dude he can’t even see?
What’s your point, anyway? Do you think Deborah Chow forgot something? Or was she just being careless? Like most of these “criticisms”, this is insanely nitpicky.
Why is Reva interrogating Leia like she’s a Rebel spy and has a deep knowledge about the Rebellion or Path, when she’s just a 10 year old? Does she seriously expect Leia to have this knowledge?
Probably
Bail proceeds to list every detail of their mission, including Owen’s in relation to “the boy.” This message could obviously be catastrophic if it were to end up in the wrong hands, which, of course, it does.
So, it’s internally consistent? What’s the issue?
It also makes Bail look incompetent and an idiot, something of which he is clearly not.
Bail Organa is a Jimmy Smits cameo, not a character. He doesn’t do anything in any live action Star Wars media he’s in. He is not clearly anything. I mean, his reckless connection to open rebels gets his planet blown up, so, maybe you’re being too quick saying he’s not an idiot.
Surely there would have been a number of opportunities to carry this out on Vader over the past 10 years?
Clearly not, or she would’ve done it 10 years ago. What would you have liked, for Reva to start expositing the entire past 3650 days and change so you could rest easy knowing she only had the opportunity now?
Welcome to Star Wars
Vader; in episode 3: “I am what you made me”
Vader; in episode 6: “You didn’t fail Anakin. I killed Anakin.”
These are literally not even contradictory
Obi-Wan to Reva: “Now you’re free. We both are.”
How? Reva may be free now she has realised the error of her ways, can now choose a different path. She can start afresh, maybe even try to make things right or make amends.
This is despite Reva’s story arc basically consisting of: Wanting revenge for her fellow Jedi younglings being killed. So she became an Inquisitor to hunt and kill Jedi, and other force sensitives, including children… all to gain the trust of Vader so she could get close to him and then kill him. And when she failed, she made her goal the killing another young child. She certainly does have a lot to make up for now she is free.
But Obi-Wan being free?: He is still in hiding, still wanted by the Empire. The very tyrannical fascist and oppressive Empire that still run the galaxy. Obi-Wan now also has the weight and conscience of sparing Vader’s life, despite him knowing the death and suffering Vader has already brought to so many, and also the death and suffering Vader will bring to many others in the future. How it that “being free”?
Western writers can literally not put any subtlety into their stories anymore. It’s really a shame.
They’re both spiritually and emotionally free. They’ve both been carrying baggage over Anakin, and by the end of the series they’re now capable of moving on. They’re on the “acceptance” part of the grieving process.
For me, some of “Obi Wan Kenobi”, episode 6 especially, had some moments more powerful, interesting and effective than many in the Prequels. Yet, like the Prequels, also featured various noticeable and needless issues too, which let the series down overall. But the series can still be enjoyed, and some may not care much or be bothered by such issues.
If these kinds of surface-level nitpicks are the problems you have with the PT too, you should try rewatching them with an open mind.
Far and away the best criticism of Obi-Wan in this thread.