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Post #1490868

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RogueLeader
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The Kenobi Movie Show (Spoilers)
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27-Jun-2022, 1:39 PM

I think you’re right about ROTJ, and that kind of touches on what Dr. Dre also said.

I think in general Obi-Wan kind of comes off as sort of a jerk to Luke when they have their conversation. First, Obi-Wan pulls the whole “certain point of view” card, instead of just apologizing for lying to Luke. And he basically guilt trips Luke with the whole, “then the Emperor’s already won”. It feels like they aren’t sympathizing with Luke at all. And even if Obi-Wan doesn’t say he has to kill his father, it feels like he is implying it. And a lot of fans seem to have interpreted it that way.

Even Yoda scolds Luke for the situation, and gets Luke to APOLOGIZE to him even though Yoda chose to keep that knowledge from him. I mean, it is a serious betrayal of trust for Luke, and they seem pretty cold about it.

And I do agree that I feel like a theme of the film does relate to Luke being right about Vader and Obi-Wan and Yoda being wrong. I pulled a Lucas quote out earlier about how he intended for Obi and Yoda to not directly tell Luke he has kill Vader, but I’m pretty sure there is another quote somewhere that boils down to this: Empire was about how you should listen to your elders, but Return of the Jedi is about not following your elders.

I guess the idea being that eventually we have to make our own decisions outside of our mentors, who aren’t always going to be right.

Note: I’m not really talking about Lucas’ intent, but more about the execution, and how some people have interpreted Obi-Wan and Yoda’s positions in those scenes.