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Post #1490413

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NeverarGreat
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The Kenobi Movie Show (Spoilers)
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25-Jun-2022, 4:39 PM

Matt.F said:

Fan_edit_fan said:

Matt.F said:

Fan_edit_fan said:

Anyway, I stand by my point that a Jedi executing a fallen foe would be completely out of character with the compassion and chivalry that is their code.

Yeah, it’s real chivalrous to get people’s kids to commit murder because you’re just too “compassionate” to carry through with it. Mace Windu was about to split Palpatine in two while he was mutilated on the floor yelling “No don’t!”. Obi-Wan cut Maul in half like a savage…and shot Greivous soo many times he exploded. There’s no “code” in leaving Vader alive in the show, it’s just irresponsible writing.

Yes, of course they kill their opponents in combat (Maul and Greivous). You’ll also remember that Mace had gone to arrest Palpatine - not execute him - before the situation suddenly went nuclear.

How does that change anything I stated? Obi-Wan and Vader were opposing combatants. Mace was trying to arrest with the intent to kill if necessary, you just can’t claim Jedi won’t finish off opponents because of their “chivalrous code”. There’s not even any evidence for it.

The whole saga is based around Anakin executing a fallen opponent and turning to the Dark Side, and Luke sparing a fallen opponent and becoming a true Jedi.

Even in this particular TV show we have this rather memorable line;

“Do you know the key to hunting a Jedi, friend? It is patience. Jedi cannot help what they are. Their compassion leaves a trail.”

Again, both of Luke’s mentors wanted Luke to conquer Vader and the Emperor. Luke’s salvation lay not in obeying his Jedi teachers but in rejecting them. These are the same teachers who say that the Jedi never use the Force for attack, which means that the Jedi way is less about the actions of the Jedi and more about their mental state. If a Jedi is calm and at peace, they will know the correct action, which must include killing an enemy if need be.

If there’s a peaceful way to deal with a vanquished enemy, the Jedi should take it. That is why Anakin killing Dooku was wrong - Dooku could have been captured by Anakin and Obi-wan to stand trial for his crimes. This is also why Mace trying to kill Palpatine was justified - Palpatine would never face justice for his evil.

This is also why it is even more justified that Obi-wan kill Vader. Vader, for all intents and purposes, is the law and Obi-wan is a fugitive. Obi-wan can’t take Vader into custody, can’t hold him to account in a higher court. The only justice within this evil Empire is to resist and rebel, taking matters into one’s own hands, and since Obi-wan doesn’t finish off this evil monster he thus allows for Vader to commit further evil.