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Hal 9000 said:

The human-like species most of the main characters are ages more quickly than we do.

Ooooo…that sucks. 😟

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BedeHistory731 said:

Film Crit Hulk: Prequel Catharsis & The Star Wars Critical Industrial Complex.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/67835154

Not sure how I missed all these papers by film crit hulk but I have read all of them now. He accurately explains the core issues of this show. I especially like when he mentions that SW is always explained by his fans to justify any plot hole. It reminds me A LOT of all these « you will see with episode 4 why Vader let Ben go at the end of episode 3 » which got quickly old one week later. At some point it’s better to accept something is just not well written…

So long 🙌

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I’m wondering if you changed the score of this to all John Williams score if it would improve the feel of the show. I feel when Vader is on screen we should be getting the imperial march theme or the extended march theme. It doesn’t have to play all the time, but this feels like a cosplay without certain themes. The same goes for Leia and her theme.

John Williams would know exactly how to do it, I just don’t understand why they didn’t have him instead. I guess he was busy or cost too much. I know he’s getting older, so that might be another reason.

It does have this cheap production feel to it at times throughout the series.

I’m hoping for a season 2, this time with Luke, but no planet hopping this time. Maybe Luke is in trouble with Jabba the Hutt or owes him money. You could have Luke flying his T-16 through Beggars Canyon racing others, but he loses and owes Jabba. Kenobi might have to kill a few bounty hunters along the way.

What would you like to see if there was a season 2? Do you agree with using Luke this time?

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If there was to be a season two, skip a few years to get a graying Kenobi (with a wig that looks like Sir Alec’s wig) going up against some Hutt BS or a force-sensitive bounty hunter that endangers Luke/the citizens of the Dune Sea. Maybe this is the incident that makes Owen go “no contact” with Kenobi (if Joel Edgerton’s salary demands are met/he’s not too busy).

Maybe find a live-action Satine for flashbacks? Her absence is understandable in this story, but it would be nice to have her acknowledged.

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BedeHistory731 said:

If there was to be a season two, skip a few years to get a graying Kenobi (with a wig that looks like Sir Alec’s wig) going up against some Hutt BS or a force-sensitive bounty hunter that endangers Luke/the citizens of the Dune Sea. Maybe this is the incident that makes Owen go “no contact” with Kenobi (if Joel Edgerton’s salary demands are met/he’s not too busy).

Maybe find a live-action Satine for flashbacks? Her absence is understandable in this story, but it would be nice to have her acknowledged.

Agreed, they should age him a bit. You have some great ideas. Love the wig idea, lol.

Maybe you could have Kenobi have premonitions of his encounter with Maul as well.

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CarboniteSolo said:

BedeHistory731 said:

If there was to be a season two, skip a few years to get a graying Kenobi (with a wig that looks like Sir Alec’s wig) going up against some Hutt BS or a force-sensitive bounty hunter that endangers Luke/the citizens of the Dune Sea. Maybe this is the incident that makes Owen go “no contact” with Kenobi (if Joel Edgerton’s salary demands are met/he’s not too busy).

Maybe find a live-action Satine for flashbacks? Her absence is understandable in this story, but it would be nice to have her acknowledged.

Maybe you could have Kenobi have premonitions of his encounter with Maul as well.

The issue there is that Ray Park had a falling out with Lucasfilm. However, any stuntman that looks close enough would work as long as Sam Witwer is still providing the voice.

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CarboniteSolo said:

John Williams would know exactly how to do it, I just don’t understand why they didn’t have him instead. I guess he was busy or cost too much. I know he’s getting older, so that might be another reason.

John Williams at his prime, maybe, but I think it is time for Williams to retire from Star Wars and let other composers take over. I personally think composers like Michael Giacchino and Gordy Haab, who does the music for Battlefront and Jedi: Fallen Order, can emulate the signature Star Wars music that John Williams created 40 years ago better than John Williams can in the present.

That being said, I do like Ludwig’s score for Mandalorian, which is totally different, but I can’t help but associate the classical score with Star Wars’ space opera roots. And elements of the Mandalorian theme has vibes of the Rocky theme from the 70s, as well as a mythic quality with the traditional instruments. It feels like the Kenobi score is erring on the side of generic science fiction music rather than something fitting for a swashbuckling fantasy.

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CarboniteSolo said:
I’m hoping for a season 2, this time with Luke, but no planet hopping this time. Maybe Luke is in trouble with Jabba the Hutt or owes him money. You could have Luke flying his T-16 through Beggars Canyon racing others, but he loses and owes Jabba. Kenobi might have to kill a few bounty hunters along the way.

People just never learn of their mistakes. Never.

So long 🙌

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MalaStrana#2 said:

CarboniteSolo said:
I’m hoping for a season 2, this time with Luke, but no planet hopping this time. Maybe Luke is in trouble with Jabba the Hutt or owes him money. You could have Luke flying his T-16 through Beggars Canyon racing others, but he loses and owes Jabba. Kenobi might have to kill a few bounty hunters along the way.

People just never learn of their mistakes. Never.

I apologize for being rude, I’m sorry

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If they decide to continue the show to another “season” with Deborah Chow and the same/random writers…then we don’t want this show, haha. We, apparently, are always going to come up with better story ideas because we are not Disney shills with agendas and misunderstanding of the rules of the SW galaxy. This show and TBOBF have proven that they often have very little clue about how to construct SW stories properly or with care. Everyone here has suggested terrific stories for another season that fit better with the universe and the Kenobi character…don’t count on this company doing anything remotely close to that quality.

To campaign for a second season, to them, would be rewarding their mediocre attempts and encouraging more.

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Fan_edit_fan said:

If they decide to continue the show to another “season” with Deborah Chow and the same/random writers…then we don’t want this show, haha. We, apparently, are always going to come up with better story ideas because we are not Disney shills with agendas and misunderstanding of the rules of the SW galaxy. This show and TBOBF have proven that they often have very little clue about how to construct SW stories properly or with care. Everyone here has suggested terrific stories for another season that fit better with the universe and the Kenobi character…don’t count on this company doing anything remotely close to that quality.

To campaign for a second season, to them, would be rewarding their mediocre attempts and encouraging more.

You don’t speak for me.

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I enjoyed the novel ‘Kenobi’ by John Jackson Miller. Wouldn’t mind a season two that borrowed elements of that.

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You don’t speak for me.

Then I guess you already got what you wanted. 😁

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They should just stop making Star Wars stuff, there’s enough already

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RogueLeader said:

CarboniteSolo said:

John Williams would know exactly how to do it, I just don’t understand why they didn’t have him instead. I guess he was busy or cost too much. I know he’s getting older, so that might be another reason.

John Williams at his prime, maybe, but I think it is time for Williams to retire from Star Wars and let other composers take over. I personally think composers like Michael Giacchino and Gordy Haab, who does the music for Battlefront and Jedi: Fallen Order, can emulate the signature Star Wars music that John Williams created 40 years ago better than John Williams can in the present.

That being said, I do like Ludwig’s score for Mandalorian, which is totally different, but I can’t help but associate the classical score with Star Wars’ space opera roots. And elements of the Mandalorian theme has vibes of the Rocky theme from the 70s, as well as a mythic quality with the traditional instruments. It feels like the Kenobi score is erring on the side of generic science fiction music rather than something fitting for a swashbuckling fantasy.

I think it’s time for Williams to retire because he’s old, not because he’s suddenly bad at making Star Wars music or somehow bad at copying himself

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Vladius said:

They should just stop making Star Wars stuff, there’s enough already

Or they could come up with new ideas.

Even Disney new ideas are now being recycled like crazy (Baby Yoda / Lil Leia / Omega, or Rey the scavanger / Ben the hobo butcher, Reva / Finn even share lots of similar ideas). They even have already did TWICE the Imperial redhead guy switching side… (never trust gingers, remember Cartman warned us about them 😄).

Maybe they could just do less but better, quality vs quantity. But when I read some comments here, I have the feeling casual fans just want to be plugged to neverending Star Wars feed with a mind elastic enough to accept basically anything (it still is incredibly laughable to consider the number of comments defending a rematch set between Mustafar and the Death Star events as “adding more depth and layers”… well, we’ve seen the quality of those layers, right…).

So long 🙌

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MalaStrana#2 said:

Vladius said:

They should just stop making Star Wars stuff, there’s enough already

Or they could come up with new ideas.

Even Disney new ideas are now being recycled like crazy (Baby Yoda / Lil Leia / Omega, or Rey the scavanger / Ben the hobo butcher, Reva / Finn even share lots of similar ideas). They even have already did TWICE the Imperial redhead guy switching side… (never trust gingers, remember Cartman warned us about them 😄).

Maybe they could just do less but better, quality vs quantity. But when I read some comments here, I have the feeling casual fans just want to be plugged to neverending Star Wars feed with a mind elastic enough to accept basically anything (it still is incredibly laughable to consider the number of comments defending a rematch set between Mustafar and the Death Star events as “adding more depth and layers”… well, we’ve seen the quality of those layers, right…).

They are bringing us new movies with new characters never before seen in Patty Jenkins movie Rogue Squadron in 2024 and Taika Waititi’s Star Wars film in 2023.

It’ll be here soon, patience.

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MalaStrana#2 said:

Vladius said:

They should just stop making Star Wars stuff, there’s enough already

Or they could come up with new ideas.

Even Disney new ideas are now being recycled like crazy (Baby Yoda / Lil Leia / Omega, or Rey the scavanger / Ben the hobo butcher, Reva / Finn even share lots of similar ideas). They even have already did TWICE the Imperial redhead guy switching side… (never trust gingers, remember Cartman warned us about them 😄).

Maybe they could just do less but better, quality vs quantity. But when I read some comments here, I have the feeling casual fans just want to be plugged to neverending Star Wars feed with a mind elastic enough to accept basically anything (it still is incredibly laughable to consider the number of comments defending a rematch set between Mustafar and the Death Star events as “adding more depth and layers”… well, we’ve seen the quality of those layers, right…).

I totally agree with you, but I also understand why people react like this. Every time LucasFilm release something new, seems like a lot of missed opportunities occur, and this kind of frustration by the fans fuels their need to see a new content that brings what the older one didn’t for them. Prequels and Sequels, if done right, wouldn’t release this huge necessity to see more things about the so called “skywalker saga”. At least, this is my interpretation of why people demand so many materials about this era.

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Everyone wants to see Luke being a badass in the sequel trilogy, everyone wanted to see Vader in action in the prequels (not 5 min), everyone wanted to see Anakin and Obi-Wan being really good friends in the prequels, etc. (And they get none of this)

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Sirius said:

Everyone wants to see Luke being a badass in the sequel trilogy,

Legends Luke was too OP and flies in the nature of the movie character, IMO. TLJ was a much more plausible Luke, but that’s a discussion for another day. Being a badass doesn’t always mean it’ll be a good and complex character.

everyone wanted to see Vader in action in the prequels (not 5 min),

Maybe? IDK as much about the fan community then, but was there much of a call to have Vader appear in Ep II or early Ep III?

everyone wanted to see Anakin and Obi-Wan being really good friends in the prequels, etc. (And they get none of this)

Clone Wars gave fans that to a significant extent.

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A very significant extent, it’s most of the show.

“Remember, the Force will be with you. Always.”

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BedeHistory731 said:

Sirius said:

Everyone wants to see Luke being a badass in the sequel trilogy,

Legends Luke was too OP and flies in the nature of the movie character, IMO. TLJ was a much more plausible Luke, but that’s a discussion for another day. Being a badass doesn’t always mean it’ll be a good and complex character.

What do you mean by plausible? Everything is made up either way. It’s more about what is satisfying.

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MalaStrana#2 said:

Vladius said:

They should just stop making Star Wars stuff, there’s enough already

Or they could come up with new ideas.

Even Disney new ideas are now being recycled like crazy (Baby Yoda / Lil Leia / Omega, or Rey the scavanger / Ben the hobo butcher, Reva / Finn even share lots of similar ideas). They even have already did TWICE the Imperial redhead guy switching side… (never trust gingers, remember Cartman warned us about them 😄).

Maybe they could just do less but better, quality vs quantity. But when I read some comments here, I have the feeling casual fans just want to be plugged to neverending Star Wars feed with a mind elastic enough to accept basically anything (it still is incredibly laughable to consider the number of comments defending a rematch set between Mustafar and the Death Star events as “adding more depth and layers”… well, we’ve seen the quality of those layers, right…).

I don’t want them to come up with new ideas, because they’re going to execute them poorly and possibly with hatred of their own audience. People keep asking for them to do something with the Old Republic and it’s like really? You want the same people that you think just screwed up everything else to start screwing that up too?