Horror Version
So as a response to my recent post and a suggestion from Hal9000, this is the recent update.
Yeah you probably right leaving it mainly as it is for your goal and these divers opinions.
I like the subtle dark deeds. Only thing that stood our for me was, that the sith whispers at the beginning could be more in tone with those later in the scene (quieter).
Yeah, I think so. Good to hear - I’ll tone down some of the whispers for sure.
- DARTH APPEARENCES
I like the idea of Darth sensing Obi wan because his necessity to save Leia! phenomenal idea there. With a bit more polishing and contribution from other editors this among many other edits might flow perfectly. I just wonder if it would flow better than an edited/improved end scene from the original.
In the edit so far it is far more ambigious if Obi-Wan know of Vader’s existence or not (the original does NOT sit well with me, and I hate the cliffhanger ending-approach to it), but it flows something like “Vader senses Kenobi using the force” -> “Reeva telling Obi-Wan on the platform Vader will be pleased” -> Obi-Wan has a softer reaction, although he looks to fear the name -> Then it proceeds to the other clip from the frontpage of this thread chronologically after. I think it works, but time will tell.
- MUSIC CHANGES
With ALL the respect Anjohan, it seems you have your heart set on the introduction of Vader to be a heart wrenchingly sad scene. If you are going to pursue this direction, I would (humbly) recommend cutting off the “Anakin’s Dark Deeds” after Vader stops, and leaving things as is, if not (like others have said) mute the music to be pulled into the moment with obi wan further.
No , I don’t. I have made several versions and want one that both I and the community feel most comfortable with and respect Vader’s re-introduction the most.
I think this new version (from right up above) might be more preferable.
I appreciate the “burning Ani” theme (lol) while Obi is burning very poetic, the sudden burst of music when the shot is fired is a bit too jarring though and it might be best to leave that be.
Yeah, I think it mirrors the scene from ROTS poetically. The scene is not volume adjusted properly as stated next to the link, so that will be better.
- CONTINUITEY/EDITING
I am fully on board with keeping the two timelines during the fight more succinct. However in the current clip Obi travels from cutting the smoke pipe to being immediately grabbed by Darth in an unknown location. You’ll need at least an establishing shot so we know where they are after returning from Reva.
I see your point. Added Obi-Wan running and Darh Vader keeping chase so as to clarify they have moved further away.
To be clear I think we should stay away from investing much time into edits that may be rendered useless later as we are only 3 ep in (i.e. Padme references, completely editing out ep 3 etc).
Although the full picture is as of yet not obvious, editing the episodes as they come out I find to be a great way to fine-tune the edit and deliver a much better fanedit in the end due to the great back-and-forth between all the community members that have their say on the different matters.
I think most of us can agree that Disney’s dialog/writing is treating everyone like children. As for the “LESS IS MORE” like I mentioned before, this is mostly regarding scenes with unnecessary dialog/camera shots. many of the lines by the Inquisitors can be cut as well as like you have already done cutting the useless 4th scene of obi cutting meat. Its a bit ridiculous that we have to rectify the editing in this show so as to not slap the audience with the most obvious dialog, but here we are.
Yes, unfortunfately.
All this to say, I think we should at least focus on making these characters feel like they belong in Star wars and not a fan film, before we start changing the way this story is told.
This is the reason the edit exist in the first place, to make it better fit within my (and many other’s) subjective opinions on what fits and doesn’t fit within the constraints of a Star Wars universe.
Many of us do for instance not like dumbded-down dialogue interactions, being spoon-fed information or cartoony villains. But some do and that is absolutely fine and then this edit is definitely not for them.
Anyway, sorry for the essay, I just want to see this show get what it deserves…in the good way. In the future I’ll focus more on adding specific ideas, lol.
Nothing to apologize for. Honest and hard opinions is what makes us all understand the intricacies of filmmaking and the Star Wars universe as a whole and have better discussions and therefore better fanedits.
For example, It’s always annoying wasting six hours creating eight different versions of the same scene only to realize it is not fully what people want. But if it makes the final attempt at the scene an improved one or at least one that gives emotional resonance then it is all worth.