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Things you DISLIKE about the Original Trilogy ( but not the Ewoks, Leia and Luke being siblings, Death Star 2 etc.) — Page 2

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Innocent contractors died while constructing the second Death Star

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One thing I hate, a minor thing, is that that Luke and Vader never swap lightsabers during their duel in ROTJ.

“The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order and in the assertion that, without Authority there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that anarchy can be instituted by a violent revolution… There can be only one permanent revolution — a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man. How is this revolution to take place? Nobody knows how it will take place in humanity, but every man feels it clearly in himself. And yet in our world everybody thinks of changing humanity, and nobody thinks of changing himself.”

― Leo Tolstoy

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Omni said:

The one thing I probably dislike about Empire is how it makes the dark side and the good side more binary than it had to be. Makes sense in the end but Vader himself calling his side the “dark” one is so taken for granted nowadays but it didn’t have to be that way. He could still think he was in the right. In fact, stuff like ROTS would be far more believable. “I do not fear the dark side as you do.” My guy it’s called the dark side, you should be skeptical of it to a degree, no?

Dark =/= evil.

“The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao. The name that can be named is not the eternal name. The nameless is the beginning of heaven and earth. The named is the mother of ten thousand things. Ever desireless, one can see the mystery. Ever desiring, one can see the manifestations. These two spring from the same source but differ in name; this appears as darkness. Darkness within darkness. The gate to all mystery.”

— Lao Tzu

“The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order and in the assertion that, without Authority there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that anarchy can be instituted by a violent revolution… There can be only one permanent revolution — a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man. How is this revolution to take place? Nobody knows how it will take place in humanity, but every man feels it clearly in himself. And yet in our world everybody thinks of changing humanity, and nobody thinks of changing himself.”

― Leo Tolstoy

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Superweapon VII said:

One thing I hate, a minor thing, is that that Luke and Vader never swap lightsabers during their duel in ROTJ.

This is something I would like to do in an eventual ROTJ edit!

And I agree with you about the dark side thing. I definitely think the out-of-universe names derive from it simply being the good side and bad side, but I like to interpret the in-universe naming of the “dark side” as referring to the mystery and unknown aspects of the Force that the Jedi deem too dangerous to tap into. It’s a deep, dark well of knowledge that could hide unimaginable secrets.

I think Palpatine hints at this by referring to the “great mystery”, and wanting to understand all its aspects, but I think it would’ve helped get that idea across even better if Palpatine had maybe used a clearer allegory.

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The ‘other’ hope not being a new character is a bummer. There is a general feeling of running out of steam in ROTJ, evident in a few areas. One not mentioned yet is that the locations aren’t as imaginative or distinctive as they could be. A lot of revisited places, and the main new planet is just the woods. Still a lot to like in Jedi but it was a step down in many respects.

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The irony is they made cuts to not make huge sets except for the Sail Barge and to do mostly a US shoot for locations and it still went over budget. So reducing it to one death star instead of two, removing Had Addadon and the Wookiee Planet didn’t prevent it from going over. Though the original budget if it had been filmed as is Revenge of the Jedi would have cost like 50 million. Howard Kazanjian got it down to 32.5 million and Lucas was still unhappy.

Part of the reason of Lucas wanting to push digital cinema and cgi was to bring the costs down. He would have shot Jedi like he did Episode II and III if the technology had been available. Or rather he would have had Richard Marquand do so.

Even by the time Menace happened he didn’t have the tech ready.

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I dont like the Emperor is a Force user i like Force users being rare also Palpatine do so little in the OT that make him a Non Force user would affect nothing to his character in the OT yes he tortures Luke in the last minutes of the final movie of the trilogy but Palpatine was mostly a Cameo and he is more important for the Prequels and Sequels movies than the OT

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MinchD36 said:

I dont like the Emperor is a Force user i like Force users being rare also Palpatine do so little in the OT that make him a Non Force user would affect nothing to his character in the OT yes he tortures Luke in the last minutes of the final movie of the trilogy but Palpatine was mostly a Cameo and he is more important for the Prequels and Sequels movies than the OT

Plus is ties the war conflict and the force conflict too closely together. Now all the heroes have to do to solve all their problems is kill this one person. Makes the universe too small when you have a singular puppet master pulling ALL the strings like that.

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