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Eyes Wide Shut: The Eyepainter Fanedit (Released)

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Stanley Kubrick. The very name brings nearly messianic feelings in the hearts of cinema fans. With films such as Dr. Strangelove, 2001: A Space Odyssey, A Clockwork Orange, The Shining, and Full Metal Jacket, there’s no denying the impact that Kubrick has had on both cinema and popular culture. Some would even go so far as to say that a Kubrick film is untouchable.

So, why have I decided to do a fan edit of Eyes Wide Shut? After all, it’s Kubrick. It should be untouchable, right? Well, I have two reasons:

Reason #1: It’s my favorite film from the late Stanley Kubrick.

Reason #2: It’s everyone else’s least favorite film from the late Stanley Kubrick.

Eyes Wide Shut is a film that is often said to be more of a whimper than a bang for the end of Kubrick’s filmography. And while the film does have its fans (myself included), there are plenty of folks out there who feel that it has some issues.

My approach to Eyes Wide Shut

I think a lot of the reasons why people tend to look down on Eyes Wide Shut is because of its vague structuring. With many of Kubrick’s other films, the structuring is so clear, it’s ridiculous. Dr. Strangelove has a clear three-act structure. So does 2001. Ditto for A Clockwork Orange. Same with The Shining. Full Metal Jacket? Okay, that one’s unusually structured, but yeah, I can still make out what Kubrick was going for. Eyes Wide Shut? Ummmm… That’s tough. I’m not even sure what counts as the film’s beginning, middle, or even end. Was Alice telling Bill about the sailor the official foray into the 2nd act? Or was it when Bill meets Nick Nightingale at the Sonata Cafe? Likewise, it’s hard to figure out what the climax of the film is. Was it the infamous Somerton scene? Or was it when Ziegler talks to Bill about the conspiracy? Or maybe it was when Bill finally told his wife the truth? It’s hard to make out what the structure is, and I think I know why. I have read Walter Murch’s In The Blink of an Eye, 2nd Edition, and I’m currently reading Edward Dmytryk’s On Film Editing, and both books have this particular editing rule: When a movie is too long, the best place to start is to cut out the subplots. Considering the film’s 159-minute running time, I think that rule is worth applying here.

There are two subplots in particular that I think are responsible for mucking up the structure. The first one that comes to mind is the Domino subplot. The second, and more heartbreaking one, is the Marion subplot. Currently, I have cut out both subplots, and I think the movie is much stronger (and shorter) without them.

I also want to be as respectful to Kubrick as much as possible. This means I’ve had to pay extra caution by comparison to my other fan edits. I’ve had to make some of my editing choices by individual frames! I have to assume that every cut must appear seamless. To do otherwise would be disrespectful to Kubrick.

However, I also want to honor the direction that Stanley was going for at the time he made this film. Some of you may or may not know this, but Kubrick was very close friends with Steven Spielberg in his later years, and he wanted to make more Spielberg-ian films at around this point in his life. A.I. Artificial Intelligence, was his next project, and it was going to be his personal attempt at Spielberg. But that never happened because he died during post-production on this film (Still, it says a lot about their friendship that Spielberg took the director’s chair for A.I. following Kubrick’s death). I have a theory that Eyes Wide Shut was supposed to be a bridge between the dark, cerebral tone of Kubrick and the fantasized, sentimental tone of Spielberg. That is my theory, but one that makes sense enough given the behind the scenes material, documentaries, featurettes, and interviews I’ve seen regarding this movie. So, I will be making certain editing choices with this Kubrick-Spielberg compromise in mind as well.

Changes list

Currently, my edit is sitting at a nice running time of 124 minutes. I must state that this is all subject to change for the time being (until the edit is released, of course). “-” means deleted. “/” means changed. “+” means added.

-Helen’s babysitter
-Nick Nightingale’s conversation with Bill at Ziegler’s
-Most of Bill’s phone conversation (Since the Nathanson subplot no longer exists)
-Three of the four visions of Alice mating with the naval officer (Once is enough)
-The fratboys
-The Marion subplot
-The Domino subplot
+The uncut and uncensored Somerton scene 😁
-The coffee table scene
-Bill deciding to leave his job early
-Bill’s second visit to Somerton (and 2nd warning)
-Bill calling Marion’s family
-Spinning hospital entrance shot
/Moved Bill’s return home to before the big “talk” with Ziegler
-First shot of the mask in the climax (For surprise’s sake)

A word on the aspect ratio

Because of the controversy surrounding the aspect ratios of Stanley Kubrick’s films (especially with this being one of his final three), I think it’s fair that I talk about the aspect ratio as it relates to my version of Eyes Wide Shut. I decided to do some online research about this subject beforehand, and what follows is my conclusion.

Let’s begin with the full frame 1.33:1 ratio, because there are some out there who believe that Kubrick’s true intentions were for his films to be released in 1.33. Part of the defense for this ratio is the extra head space combined with the tallness of the image when any of Kubrick’s films (post-2001, of course) are shown in the academy ratio. However, there are lots of problems with this argument. The first problem is that there’s almost nothing proving beyond a reasonable doubt that Kubrick wanted this. The second is that the argument originated from his assistant director, Leon Vitali, who’s been proven to be unreliable when it comes to Kubrick’s aspect ratios. This article from high-def digest does Vitali dirty, and shows an example where he got the aspect ratio for Barry Lyndon wrong:

https://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/barry-lyndon-aspect-ratio/

It’s best to ignore what Vitali says. Third problem is that, like many open-matte films of the past, there is a tendency for too much information to appear in 1.33. Kubrick, being the perfectionist that he was, mostly managed to avoid this trap in the academy format, but one famous goof can be found in the opening credits for The Shining. If you watch the bottom-right hand corner, there is a shadow of a helicopter in the 1.33 version. You can see the goof in this link:

https://youtu.be/5a-MS-lB8gM?t=71

But when this same shot is cropped for widescreen, the goof is gone:

https://youtu.be/9spGH0YMkj8?t=56

This tells me that Kubrick probably didn’t want his films to be in full frame. At the very least, it indicates that The Shining wasn’t supposed to be in 1.33. I doubt Kubrick would make such a simple mistake like that unless his intentions for the film were for it to be cropped later on by a projectionist.

Reason four revolves around The Criterion Collection. The fine folks over there have released five of Kubrick’s films, and just about all of them (Excluding Spartacus in 2.35:1) have been released in the 1.66 ratio, not 1.33:

https://www.criterion.com/films/27751-the-killing

https://www.criterion.com/films/27522-paths-of-glory

https://www.criterion.com/films/28822-dr-strangelove-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-bomb

https://www.criterion.com/films/29008-barry-lyndon

Knowing Criterion’s obsession with getting it right as often as possible, it sounds like 1.66 was Kubrick’s preferred format, at least, for his earlier films. Some may argue that Dr. Strangelove was shot in multiple aspect ratios, and that the 1.66 format robs the film of that, but I don’t believe that makes a lot of sense given my own experiences looking at open matte 35mm film prints. Many shots of special effects are often cropped down to 1.85:1, while non-special effects shots are open matte, either at 1.37:1 or 1.19:1. This 35mm trailer for Big Top Pee Wee was supposed to be cropped with a 1.85 gate when projected in theaters, but when uncropped, you can see a lot of similarities to the varying aspect ratio effects of Dr. Strangelove’s 1.33 format.

https://youtu.be/VmKr_KvRfJU

The point is, it’s odd to me that Kubrick would want people to see those varying aspect ratio effects for Dr. Strangelove. Why would he want that? Did he really intend for people to see the nuclear warhead stick out of frame at the end of the movie? I’m not so convinced that Strangelove was supposed to be seen this way.

So, my long story short is that 1.33 is the wrong format for Eyes Wide Shut, despite some praise for the format.

But that leads us to the million dollar question. If it isn’t supposed to be in 1.33:1, which aspect ratio is it then? Is it 1.66? 1.85? 16:9? It’s a tough question, so let’s do some unpacking!

We’ll begin with my official copy of the film. It’s the unrated US blu-ray, which features a copyright from 2007. That’s an old blu-ray, but it happens to be the only physical copy in HD that is available here in the states, as they never re-released it since. The box claims that the aspect ratio is in 1.85:1, but that’s a lie. The blu-ray is in 1.78:1 (or 16:9, if you want to use that). This is a consistent problem with a lot of Kubrick films in the Warner Bros. catalog. I have the blu-ray of Full Metal Jacket and it’s also in 1.78 despite the box claiming to be 1.85. I’ve also heard that the blu-ray for The Shining suffered a similar fate. However, I can’t confirm anything since my copy of The Shining is the crusty old DVD with the 1.33 aspect ratio. Still, if The Shining blu-ray is in 1.78, I wouldn’t be surprised. When it comes to the aspect ratios of Kubrick’s films, take them with a grain of salt. They’re all 16:9, plain and simple.

So, with that out of my system, it’s worth asking: Did Stanley Kubrick intend for us all to see his films in the 16:9 format? It’s hard to know, since Kubrick isn’t available to ask, but my educated guess is no. Keep in mind that Warner Bros. Studios have released most of their 1.85 films in 16:9, not just Kubrick’s. So it’s fair to assume that many of Warner Bros. films in the 1.85 format have been reframed slightly to the 16:9 format. What’s worse is that this problem goes back to the DVD era as well! I own a 2-disc special edition DVD of the 1975 film Dog Day Afternoon. That movie was released in the 1970s, where 16:9 barely was a thing (I hear 1.75:1 existed back then, but I’m not going to confirm what I don’t know). So, my educated guess is that Dog Day Afternoon was filmed with 1.85 in mind. But my DVD is in the 16:9 aspect ratio, not the 1.85 ratio. So if a film like Dog Day Afternoon can be improperly framed (however slightly), then so can Kubrick’s films.

So, that leaves us with two options: 1.66 and 1.85. Granted, Kubrick loved the 1.66:1 aspect ratio, but I think that once the 1980s rolled around, 1.85 became the standard, and Kubrick most likely caved in. So, my educated guess is that 1.85 is the correct aspect ratio for Eyes Wide Shut (and Full Metal Jacket, while we’re at it).

And just to prove even further that this is correct, here’s a link to a video that goes in-depth about the aspect ratio controversy, and I think it proves that 1.85 makes the most sense. There is a bit of mean language in the video below, so don’t play it in front of the kids, but if you’re a fan of all things Kubrick, I doubt you care. The admins might, though:

https://youtu.be/epNlWA_hNk8

So, there you have it. My conclusion is that Eyes Wide Shut is intended to be seen in the 1.85:1 aspect ratio, and my edit will honor that conclusion.

1.85:1: The aspect ratio for my edit

In preparation for this fan edit, I ripped my source file off my blu-ray and through the power of Handbrake, I cropped the image down from 1920x1080 to 1920x1036, which is approximately 1.85:1. Currently, I’ve cropped the top and bottom, but I’m tempted to go back and just crop the bottom instead, since the top of people’s heads might be a teensy bit more aesthetically pleasing that way. I’ll update this part if I decide to re-crop the file.

UPDATE (05-11-23)

The commentary track is now complete! I will now be prepping the edit up for release, which should take a lot less time than the commentary track did. I’d like to issue a special thanks to everyone who had a hand in making this edit a reality (including the folks who helped me on fanedit.org). Stay tuned. The edit is almost ready for release.

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I’m glad you’re going with the 1.85 ratio instead of 16:9. Also The Shining BD is in fact 16:9 as well.

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CloakedDragon97 said:

I’m glad you’re going with the 1.85 ratio instead of 16:9. Also The Shining BD is in fact 16:9 as well.

To quote Lieutenant Frank Drebin, I knew it!

Anyway, I’m getting into the nitty-gritty stuff now. Deciding if I should remove the establishing shot of Ziegler’s place at the end, as it seems to be sticking out like a sore thumb with the editing choices I’ve made so far.

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Eyepainter said:

Reason #1: It’s my favorite film from the late Stanley Kubrick.

Reason #2: It’s everyone else’s least favorite film from the late Stanley Kubrick.

Not everyone else’s :>
I generally don’t like Kubrick, but with that one exception.

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Vilgefortz said:

Eyepainter said:

Reason #1: It’s my favorite film from the late Stanley Kubrick.

Reason #2: It’s everyone else’s least favorite film from the late Stanley Kubrick.

Not everyone else’s :>
I generally don’t like Kubrick, but with that one exception.

Very well then! It’s “most people’s” least favorite film from Stanley Kubrick.

Jokes aside, it’s good to meet another fan of this movie. I hope this edit does the film justice.

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EWS fan here. What do you think of making your edit in 1.33 and 1.66 also? (or just 1.33 along with 1.85) Would it be too much of a bother?

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stretch009 said:

EWS fan here. What do you think of making your edit in 1.33 and 1.66 also? (or just 1.33 along with 1.85) Would it be too much of a bother?

In my super long wall of text, I said that the blu-ray I own (and consequently the source) is in the 16:9 aspect ratio and there is no official HD source that I can legally obtain that is available in 1.33 (or 1.66). I’m also not sure how well my hardware (or software) handles region coding, so unless there’s a region-free version that I’m not aware of, I’m stuck with my 16:9 blu-ray.

There are only two ideas I can come up with. Neither of them are great. The first option is to crop the sides of my Blu-ray down to 1.33 or 1.66, which I really don’t want to do lest I summon the angry spirit of Stanley Kubrick. Even if I cropped to 1.66, I’d still be panning-and-scanning the image. The second is to buy the DVD off eBay. That’s the better option, but the quality would be significantly lower. I also don’t have the disk space (or the money) to do an upscaling of said DVD. So it would be in SD regardless. Topaz ain’t cheap!

Finally, if you’re willing to do it, I recommend reading the long, boring wall of text on the aspect ratio, as I’ve given a very thorough explanation on the issues and controversy surrounding the 1.33 format, complete with sources and YouTube videos too. It’s worth slogging through.

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So, after a long talk with stretch009, I’ve been given a mux of the PAL version and the NTSC audio track, which happens to be in the full frame aspect ratio.

I still stand by my statements regarding the 1.85 format being what Kubrick intended, and having a 1.33 version does not change my opinion. However, because of the controversy, and some users swearing by the full frame format, I’m faced with little choice but to take up stretch’s file. I should make a few things clear though.

#1. It’s not hi-def

This should come as no surprise, but it’s in the PAL format. So, we’re dealing with 540p. I also don’t have the money or disk space for upscaling. stretch009 has offered to make a few improvements to bump the file up some more, but I’m not sure I have enough disk space at the moment to give the file an upgrade.

#2. I’m color grading the file

Of course, I plan to color grade the 1.85 version too, as the 2007 blu-ray that I happen to own is in need of it’s own makeover. However, because I’m dealing with a 720x540 resolution file, I figure it wouldn’t hurt to try and fix it up. I may have to do separate color grades for each version, so keep that in mind too.

#3. My work has doubled

Working on the 1.33 format is basically like doing two separate edits simultaneously. I have yet to cut up this file, and apply my own changes as of this posting.

So there you have it. I still believe that 1.85 is the correct format, and if you manage to find some of Kubrick’s production notes for the film, you will most likely find that 1.85 was what he prioritized, but for those who can’t live without 1.33, there you go.

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You don’t have to do the 1.33 one if you don’t want to.

It’s 576p not 540p.
storage resolution = 720x576
display resolution = 768x576. 768 divided by 576 = 1.33
A user on Myspleen said 576p has 20% higher resolution than 480p.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/576p
Google - 720x576

Okay, yes 720x540 is 1.33 but PAL is 576p and what stated above is correct.

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stretch009 said:

You don’t have to do the 1.33 one if you don’t want to.

It’s 576p not 540p.
storage resolution = 720x576
display resolution = 768x576. 768 divided by 576 = 1.33
A user on Myspleen said 576p has 20% higher resolution than 480p.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/576p
Google - 720x576

Okay, yes 720x540 is 1.33 but PAL is 576p and what stated above is correct.

You’re close! Handbrake is saying that the file is actually 716x574. However, because of the production proxy 540p preset, the storage size is automatically reduced to 720x540, which is disappointing.

In the PM’s we exchanged, you mentioned a program called VidCoder. I’m not sure about disk space, but I’ll see if I can install that and hopefully bypass the lowered resolution.

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Eyepainter said:

stretch009 said:

You don’t have to do the 1.33 one if you don’t want to.

It’s 576p not 540p.
storage resolution = 720x576
display resolution = 768x576. 768 divided by 576 = 1.33
A user on Myspleen said 576p has 20% higher resolution than 480p.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/576p
Google - 720x576

Okay, yes 720x540 is 1.33 but PAL is 576p and what stated above is correct.

You’re close! Handbrake is saying that the file is actually 716x574. However, because of the production proxy 540p preset, the storage size is automatically reduced to 720x540, which is disappointing.

In the PM’s we exchanged, you mentioned a program called VidCoder. I’m not sure about disk space, but I’ll see if I can install that and hopefully bypass the lowered resolution.

No, I’m not close. I’m right. PAL IS 720x576. Eyes Wide Shut PAL DVD IS 720x576. Handbrake is adjusting it to the incorrect resolution. Vidcoder shows it as storage resolution = 720x576 and display resolution = 768x576 as stated above. 768 divided by 576 = 1.33. Voila!

BTW I thought you said you make your own presets so why are you using that ‘production proxy’ preset? ‘Hopefully bypass the lowered resolution’. I’m going to tell you right now, create your own preset in Vidcoder and you’ll have the EXACT and correct resolution you need which is 768x576 which is 1.33. If you divide 768 by 576 you’ll see that it’s 1.33. Go ahead use a calculator. Keep in mind what the storage resolution is of a PAL DVD and what the display resolution is like I stated above. Please ditch Handbrake and get the superior Vidcoder.

I’ve used Vidcoder for years because it’s basically Handbrake (It uses the handbrake engine as they say) but with a much better user interface. I get the feeling you don’t use the program ‘MediaInfo’. You should because it lists out every little detail about a video file. If you used it you would know for a fact that the file I gave you and the PAL DVD is 720x576. ‘MediaInfo’ also shows a Vidcoder encoded file as being encoded by Handbrake. Interesting little proof that Vidcoder uses Handbrake engine, right? ‘MediaInfo’ link and Vidcoder link to download them:
https://www.videohelp.com/software/MediaInfo

https://www.videohelp.com/software/VidCoder

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Time to talk about the color grading! I’ve just recently come up with yet another wild idea for the color grading, and I figured it wouldn’t hurt to test it on this edit! I don’t know if I’ll stick with it or not, but I like seeing what others may think about it, as my latest approach is quite different. However, fans of 35mm film will probably understand where I’m going with this.

Let’s start with what I’ve cooked up. First, here’s the 2007 US blu-ray:
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I started off by adding a node to the timeline, and using the curves, I reversed the colors and gave things a negative effect, like so:
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Next, I created three more nodes. I adjusted the offset color wheel on all three nodes. One was changed to yellow:
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One was changed to cyan:
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And one was changed to magenta:
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Next, I added a parallel mixer node, right-clicked it, added a third input, and then combined all three of these nodes together:
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Then, I added one more node. This one inverts the color scheme yet again, resulting in a positive effect:
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And finally, I went back and readjusted the yellow, cyan and magenta nodes again until we end up with the final result:
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I might decide to go back and use the same methods that I’ve used for my Star Wars edits, because if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Still, it never hurts to experiment and see if there is another way to grade a film. And that’s what this new process is: an experiment. Maybe it’s better, maybe it’s not. Only way to be sure is to listen to what others have to say about it. As is always the case with my comparisons, the 2007 blu-ray is the top screencap and the latest grade is the one on the bottom. You can find the rest of the examples in the spoiler tag below:

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Just done the usual stuff with the color grading. I utilized a lot of the same techniques that I used for my Star Wars edits, although I’ve tweaked things a bit this time around! For one, I decided to use curves instead of color wheels, as the curves did a good job at making things look more contrast-y. I also decided to give the black levels more of a teal blue color, while my previous edits had blacks that were tinted more towards blue. I don’t think it’ll be that noticeable, though.

The only other thing worth noting is that, as with most of my film looks, I’ve had to juggle between giving a blue look and an orange look. My previous yellow-cyan-magenta grade was on the green side of things, so you might think I’m going with a blue look. But, surprise surprise, I think the orange looked more natural in most cases, so I’m going with that look for my latest grade.

Here’s the 2007 blu-ray again:
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Here’s that YCM grade I’ve been considering again:
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Just an update for those who are wondering if I died or something.

I’ve been working with some new friends on fanedit.org, and a user by the name of Fran_Garcia is upscaling my 1080p file via Topaz to try and add in some more details! Yes, I’m excited about this! In the meantime, I decided to play around with my current file and work on color grading via adjustment layers, as advised by krausfadr. I also took this opportunity to work on my Resolve FX features (at least, the ones I have, since I’m using the free version), and install a few film grain overlays on the advice of another faneditor named Gieferg. Right now, I’m at the halfway mark and having… A very interesting look around.

While I’m working on “that” scene, I decided to showcase my progress thus far. Here are some screencaps I’ve taken from the first half of the edit! You can find them in the spoiler tag below:

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Time for me to give yet another thank you to ArtisDead! He’s been quite a trooper this week! Not only has he taken on the poster artwork for my Episode I edit, but he’s now taking on the poster artwork for this version of Eyes Wide Shut! We’ve been going back and forth between a few ideas, and he’s now cooking up two more. I’ll send an update when the artwork is done!

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I’ve heard that ArtisDead is quite an artist…

Your edit sounds interesting.

Forever in search of that one movie experience…

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ArtisDead said:

I’ve heard that ArtisDead is quite an artist…

Your edit sounds interesting.

Oh yeah, and I’ve heard about this Eyepainter. I hear she’s doing all these Star Wars edits too. She must be a hard worker.

Anyway, here’s the censored poster ArtisDead cooked up for my edit:

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Censored cover art posted on the main topic. Thanks again, ArtisDead!

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Commentary track is now a work in progress!

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Almost done commenting my way through the nice, happy, family-friendly scene at the mansion, meaning that I’m now more than halfway through recording the commentary track. 🥳

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Ladies and gentlemen, the commentary track is now 100% complete! 🥳

It’s taken an inhumanely long time to work on, but it’s finished, and that means we should be looking at this edit finally getting a release soon! I will now begin work on the special thanks for everyone who assisted or helped out, and prepare for the export stage, all of which should be much faster than the commentary track.

I will be submitting my edit through fanedit.org for approval. Once the edit is given the green light, I will be happy to send PM’s.

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Just gave the edit a test. I found some inconsistent brightness changes between the many different film overlays, so I’m correcting those issues now. The audio commentary turned out just fine. Gonna give the edit a second test over the weekend.

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