Mental gymnastics and insane stretches have always been required by Prequel fans when in discussion with others who did not enjoy these films or point out the discrepancies between the two trilogies. I am surprised many Prequel fans themselves rarely seem to question why Lucas’ poor writing for the later Trilogy created so many needless plot-holes and contradictions, and still look to use such gymnastics and stretches instead.
This is spot on. I almost feel like it’s a culture within the prequel fandom, because prequel fans talking about the basic plot of the prequels is full of more headcanon than what’s actually shown on screen.
The same for me too.
The effect of each discrepancy is different for everyone, and some are more notable than others. This particular issue with Obi-Wan not being shown to serve under Bail onscreen in the Prequels isn’t a big one for me, though as others have mentioned it was perhaps a missed opportunity given the quality of Jimmy Smits as an actor, and his quite limited role in the films.
The sheer number of discrepancies and contradictions combined does certainly give cause to question why George included so many in the Prequels. I think a lot of us, whatever we think of these films, are a little perplexed on that!
To me, the reasoning that because Bail was a Senator and Obi-Wan as a high ranking Jedi served the Senate, does not quite sit right. It is like saying General MacArthur served under the Senator for Alaska in World War 2, which seems off to me. I am not American so perhaps my comparison is not quite correct.
However yes, it’s best to keep the topic to what JadedSkywalker intended it to be. There’s no need to continue saying the same things if words are going to be misinterpreted and given contexts that create further impasses.
I don’t think there have been misinterpretations, but I do want to say thank you for your apology for your previous posts to me, and also your kind PM.
and Qui Gon was a late addition to The Phantom Menace , a lot of concept paintings by Doug Chiang show that It was just supposed to be Obi Wan by himself . He is even depicted wearing a modified version of Luke’s Jedi tunic , which was what many thought the traditional garb of the Jedi was supposed to be . And 20 years is not that long in the scheme of things …I am 50 years old and remember events from 20 years ago in vivid detail ."a certain point of view " was just something Lucas pulled out of his ass when he backed himself into a corner writing ROTJ , as was Leia being the other/Luke’s sister , as evidenced in the documentary From Star Wars To Jedi The Making Of A Saga .
Obi-Wan on his own, now that would have made for an interesting story in itself. As much as I like Liam Neeson and think he did well with the role of Qui-Gon it is a cool “what if” to think of a film more focused on Obi-Wan and events surrounding those close to him during the backdrop of the lead up to the Clone Wars and events at that time. Maybe with the focus on Obi-Wan more there would have been fewer discrepancies and plot holes between what we were shown in the Prequels contradicting the OT, and Obi-Wan in particular, too? It also makes me wonder how the effect of Qui-Gon being a later addition to the film perhaps had on the coherence of the story between TPM and the OT.