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Post #147354

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InfoDroid
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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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12-Oct-2005, 8:30 AM
LOL! Too true, Commander Courage. And please know, I wasn't disagreeing with ALL of your opinions. Just the one about the trench run not being the right fit for the duel.

Let me just elaborate by saying, to a degree I think that familiarity with the music can greatly enhance an otherwise stale scene simply due to the emotional connection we have with it from the other films. I'd say to most people this is an unconcious connection. Even you said you couldn't place it the first time you heard it, because you're seeing it juxtaposed in a completely new context.

I understand what you're saying about Ben Burtt's crew misusing and abusing the same mediocre musical cuts over and over again. But the problem with the editing of the prequel scores, hack-jobs as they were, was that they cannibalized themselves. My point being that if you're crappily editing music into a sequence the music was never meant for, and the music you're drawing from was crappy to begin with, then chances are you're going to end up with crap. Which is exactly what happened. Had their source been ANH or ESB, the effect might have been totally different.

So, although it may not work with some scenes, or with certain music that has reached a level of cliche, I think in Trooperman's above clips this approach is perfectly effective. The old themes are what were so glaringly missing from the Prequel scores. George Lucas always talks about thematic echos, yet the music never seems to be on quite the same page. The trick for Trooperman is to (in some cases) let the completed music dictate the editing and flow of the film, instead of vice-versa. If he does that, I think it may offer us all a brand new way of looking at this film.

Remember the first time you saw the Phantom Menace trailer???

Nothing like it. Cheer inducing. People were paying seven bucks just to see the trailer. I think the main reason the trailers were so exciting and emotionally powerful, is because we were responding mostly to the old music. I think this is especially apparent in the AOTC trailer where they used Princess Leia's theme to underpin the love story. It was so much more effective than "Across the Stars", which ultimately is nothing more than a softened-up and disappointing rehash of Williams' "Nixon" score.

I think you'll agree when I say a complete musical overhaul of the Prequels would alone do wonders for the films, and for the story arch as a whole.

Anyway, great job, Trooperman!