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Post #1471416

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Stardust1138
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Did Lucas forget that Obi Wan served Bail Organa in the Clone Wars ?
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8-Feb-2022, 10:16 PM
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8-Feb-2022, 10:54 PM
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Stardust1138
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StarkillerAG said:

  • R2 somehow doesn’t recognize Obi-Wan or Yoda, Obi-Wan and Yoda don’t seem to recognize R2 either
  • Obi-Wan doesn’t remember owning a droid, despite having owned a droid for at least 3 years
  • Obi-Wan makes it sound like Owen and Anakin are actual brothers, and Owen resisted when Anakin started his training, which is just completely wrong
  • The “served my father in the Clone Wars” bit that started this thread (and no, the cartoons don’t count)
  • Obi-Wan says Yoda was the master who instructed him, but Yoda was actually the master who instructed the master who instructed the master who instructed him
  • Luke feels like he’s been to Dagobah before, despite the fact that he never actually went there before
  • Obi-Wan says that he was reckless as an apprentice, despite the prequels portraying him as basically the opposite of reckless
  • Obi-Wan acts like he discovered Anakin’s piloting ability and Force skill, despite Qui-Gon being the one who discovered that (I’m noticing a lot of contradictions disappear if you merge Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon into a single character)
  • Leia says she remembers her real mother, despite the fact that her mother died in childbirth (and no, “it was the Force” isn’t a valid explanation, especially since Luke doesn’t have those memories)
  • Vader says Obi-Wan once thought he could be redeemed, despite Obi-Wan going to Mustafar to kill him (and no, the upcoming Obi-Wan spinoff doesn’t count)
  1. Who says he doesn’t? R2 is known to troll and know more than he let’s on. Yoda and Obi-Wan could also just be keeping to themselves how much they know as they did with the truth about Luke’s father.

  2. During the Clone Wars he has a very low opinion of droids and thinks they can be easily replaced.

  3. I don’t know about that as I never got that impression. It seems more like headcanon to me or the Return of the Jedi novelisation saying Owen was Obi-Wan’s brother. The story didn’t get set until Attack of the Clones. Step brother is still family.

  4. George considered The Clone Wars canon. So it certainly counts as an explanation.

  5. The Force works in mysterious ways. “Through the Force, things you will see. Other places. The future, the past. Old friends long gone.” It could just as much be the Force showing Luke that Dagobah plays a role in his destiny. Just as Obi-Wan guiding him there was through the Force.

  6. He has moments of being reckless and cocky. Like when he jumps out of the window when the assassin droid comes to Padme’s apartment. Same with his desire to train Anakin without the approval of the Jedi Council at the will request of Qui-Gon. Plus it could just as well be he was reckless when he was a youngling being taught by Yoda as he mentions being instructed by him. Yoda taught the children before they were assigned masters upon becoming padawan learners.

  7. Obi-Wan was there on Tatooine when Anakin was discovered and from a certain point of view he was with Qui-Gon when Anakin was discovered. Jedi work in teams. A master and apprentice. He saw Anakin’s potential with the Force through his midi-chlorian count. Same with knowing about Anakin’s skills to win the podrace to secure them the parts they needed to leave. Surely he also knows what happened to the Trade Federation command ship too.

  8. George planned to explain Leia’s Force abilities in his Sequel Trilogy. So it’s not so much a contradiction but something that was never addressed by Disney unless it’s in a novel or something. It could just as much be she has memories like Yoda taught in his lesson I mention above in relation to Luke. The same could be said of Leia having visions of Padme. It’s something George would’ve delved into I’m sure as Rick McCallum spoke of it. The Force works differently in every living thing. Everyone has the Force. So how it impacts Leia might be different than Luke.

  9. Obi-Wan was hesitant on going as he wanted to confront Palpatine instead but he respected Yoda’s wishes and seeked out Padme. He fought the whole duel with Anakin/Vader on Mustafar in defence until the very end. He didn’t want to kill Anakin. It’s only when he thought he was far gone that he began to switch to offence.