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Post #1470999

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Stardust1138
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YouTube/Vimeo/etc... Star Wars video finds
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Date created
6-Feb-2022, 7:08 PM

BedeHistory731 said:

Stardust1138 said:

BedeHistory731 said:

Sequel hate and prequel apologia - name a better combination!

So Uncivilized should be tossed in the same bin as Fandom Menace. A more eloquent and educated Fandom Menace member, but Fandom Menace nonetheless. I haven’t trusted them since they sang the praises of that video that “debunked” How Star Wars was Saved in the Edit.

I enjoy his videos but it’s good we can’t all agree. I’d also say the dubunking video isn’t wrong. Marcia Lucas has said as much in Howard Kazanjian’s book. I highly recommend it. It was all a collaboration between different creatives.

I’d say the debunk contained a few too many personal attacks, but yeah, the Rocketjump original really went too far in the “OT succeeded in spite of Lucas” narrative. It’s the subtle influence of the Plinkett Reviews on Star Wars discourse (which sucks, honestly).

I disagree with So Uncivilized on pretty much every aspect of their arguments, as I’ve grown to truly despise “prequel apologia.” It’s how we get things like Lucas Worship (an over-correction of the highest order) and Star Wars Theory’s batshit ideas about armies of Maul and Grievous clones. It’s better to have a more balanced view of the PT that doesn’t descend into pure apologia to put down the ST.

Still, this person’s stuff isn’t as awful as Pop Culture Detective’s The Case Against the Jedi. The TL;DW of that one is “the PT is really sexist and George wrote his animosity towards women into the movies!” That’s a hilarious reach of ever there was one.

Absolutely. I understand what you mean in a lot of ways. I’m pretty much a defender of everything George ever made as I genuinely love all of his work throughout the years but at the same time I do see the flaws too. No artist is perfect afterall. I try to see things from his prospective when I watch his work like with any artist. I have my own personal view and then I also view things how the author intended for me to see them. I think personally George succeeded with the Prequels where the Sequels didn’t. I don’t hate the Sequels as much as some do though. I agree with most of the criticism but I don’t find the need to vilify them at the same time. It’s tricky as while I don’t hate them I don’t have much desire to keep up with Disney Star Wars. It’s just not what it used to be for me but I’m glad some can enjoy it. I wouldn’t want to take that away from them.

I think in short a lot of people don’t understand Star Wars like George told Gary Kurtz. However it’s all personal to the viewer and creators at the same time. Only George can truly say what is and isn’t Star Wars at the end of the day.