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Blu-Ray Attacks Microsoft, Microsoft Bites Back — Page 3

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Sony is quite famous for their "Not Invented Here" mentality. Hell, they even renamed Firewire as i.LINK!

And how's that new MicroMV format going? Heh!

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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I'm rooting for HD-DVD, because it is the technically inferior format.

And based on past data, the inferior format tends to win.

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But not due to its inferiority.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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sorry, i didn't realize responses were being posted while i edited my response. so... check that response for a little bit of elaboration.
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Sorry people, I've been off the planet for a few years so can someone please help me catch up?

Reading this thread I presume that Sony is now reknown for failing to win marketshare when it comes to their proprietary technology. There was this great video technology, due to come out shortly after I left Earth, that contained Sony proprietary tech. Can someone tell me how it faired on the marketplace? I think it was called... ummm... 'DVD'.

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I'm so glad Jay has set the record straight about the DVD compatibility myth here. Whenever people bring up that arguement up as a benefit of HD-DVD it bugs the hell out of me! Sure, HD-DVD is 'compatible' with DVD, but Blu-Ray Discs currently are 'more compatible' since you can include both formats on the side of one disc.

I do have a question for the tech heads here though. Is there any previous examples of a technology winning marketshare over its competition due to, or simply with, its name being similar to the previous generation's tech? The reason I ask is because a lot of people have been suggesting HD-DVD will win the market war due to the inclusion of DVD in the name and I can't think of any examples in tech history that would prove this true. VCD didn't beat DVD and D-VHS doesn't seem to be making much of a dent in mindshare.

If the battle is decided based on the format name then I really wish Blu-Ray wins, I couldn't stand having to say HD-DVD each time a movie release is discussed. I'm just glad I don't have a stutter (though saying HD-DVD almost makes it sound like I do)! The two syllables of Blu-Ray and BD are much easier on the tongue. Though I'll probably end up calling them Blurries or Beadies...

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Originally posted by: Gillean
I think it was called... ummm... 'DVD'.

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oh the format that came out of a wide collaboration that included toshiba, sony, warner bros and others, and ended up being a great success without the need for an optical rom format war? a collaboration that was largely the result of sony and philips abandoning the high density cd they'd been developing? sony and philips weren't too thrilled with the number of patents they held in the dvd format, thus their marketing of the "+R" & "+RW" formats, break from the dvd forum's high-def project & attempt to lure warren lieberfarb away from it, and development of blu-ray.

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Is there any previous examples of a technology winning marketshare over its competition due to, or simply with, its name being similar to the previous generation's tech?

i can think of a couple of game consoles that succeeded largely on name-recognition, i guess. gameboy color, which beat the pants off of a number of superior handheld machines (sega gamegear, atari lynx, neogeo pocket). that was probably a combination of brand recognition, backwards compatibility with the monochrome gameboy titles, and nintendo's infamous bullying tactics toward game developers & retailers at the time.

playstation 2 launched with games of arguably worse quality than the slightly older sega dreamcast, it was a near-endlessly difficult platform to develop games upon, and was continually beaten by ms xbox & nintendo gamecube in terms of visual quality... but a combo of brand recognition & sheer amount of games available kept it well ahead of those other systems in sales. now that playstation's so completely dominant, on one hand nintendo's become satisfied to preside over a profitable niche, while on the other hand microsoft have willfully thrown quite a large amount of money into xbox long after its apparent market failure 'cause they seemingly believed it'd be worthwhile in the long run to establish the brand if it means having a chance at eventually winning the brand recognition game.

also, i'm fairly certain? that intel's pentium brand continued to outsell amd's athlons at times when athlon chips were clearly matching and even surpassing pentium 4 chips on the bang-for-the-buck scale. that seemed to have a lot to do with name recognition of "sequel" products.