He killed children once he became Vader, once he turned to the dark side. If we’re counting Vader’s actions, then Vader in the original trilogy was complacent in the destruction of an entire planet, killed his best friend and mentor, and tortured Han and Leia. And Luke is AWARE of those things. Luke isn’t ignorant to the fact that his father did horrible things and became a monster, he wants his father to return to who he once was, the guy we see at the beginning of ROTS.
And yes, Anakin was a good person deep down: https://qr.ae/pGDxjU
And if you’re talking about the Tuskin Raiders, those monsters abducted and tortured a random women and killed 26 of the 30 people who went out to save her, and those Tuskin children were going to grow up to become just like the murderous adults. He basically just killed baby Hitler. And even then Anakin KNEW what he did was wrong. We also see them shooting innocent podracers and trying to kill Luke when he did nothing wrong. I’m surprised so many OT fans stick up for the Tuskin Raiders when your first impression of them was trying to kill the beloved protagonist of the OT.
Nah. If it’s a twist, it’s a very hacky twist. The movie still rushes Anakin’s fall and the series suffers for it. Besides, ESB is in the middle again (five out of nine movies - close enough).
It’s almost as if a twist is a sudden change of events or something.
It “rushes” it because that’s what happened: Anakin gave into his fatal flaw and made a terrible mistake because he was scared, desperate, and sleep-deprived. His fear of loss was built up over the past two movies, and we also saw him kill Dooku in the beginning, showing that he’s willing to give into his anger. We see throughout the films that Anakin has a character flaw of giving into his fear and anger and obsessing over things rather than being willing to let things go. Instead of letting go of his anger and not killing the Tuskins and Dooku for what they did to his mother and him, he gave into his anger. Instead of having faith and trusting in Padme that she’ll get through childbirth, instead of being willing to let her go instead of destroying everything she believed in, he gave into his fear and craved power. It’s a tendency and flaw in his character that finally broke him.
Also, was talking about Lucas’ saga.
That’s not tension, that’s just lessening the experience of the OT. Again, preserving twists makes the reveal all the more of an emotional shock in the final two movies of the trilogy (or saga, depending on your perception). Knowing it all along just doesn’t feel right.
Yes it is tension. You’re just clinging onto the way you saw the film as a child and refusing to see it from any other perspective.