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lets bring up a few HISTORICAL points...
Hmmm lets see.....................Genocide.......
How about WHITE Americans commiting acts of genocide against the native people? Kinda sounds like ethnic cleansing to me......does that make it any better or worse than what Hitler attempted? No it doesn't, both are heinous evil acts THAT SHOULD NEVER BE FORGOTTEN. I'm sure it gets skipped over in US history class tho
& before anyone thinks I'm anti American.......Im a Brit & I'm WELL AWARE of the fact that The British Empire INVENTED the CONCENTRATION CAMP during the BOER WAR which was fought during 1899-1901.
Just changing the subject slightly.......had the misfortune of watching PEARL HARBOUR & was amazed at some of the liberties taken by Messers Bruckheimer & Bay, although rightly I should be pointing the finger of death at the script writers!
Hmm the first instance that annoyed me................the RAF pilots casual comment about "how the Yankee pilots would single handedly win the War"
& secondly the notion that the War didn't start until the bombing of Pearl Harbour!
Now these may seem inconsequential or perhaps even trivial to most of you, but to me I find it totally unbelievable! Just want to clarify something here....
To you Americans out there..........during your history classes do you study WW2? If so...what period do you study? By this I mean, do you study the War as a whole or just the American involvement? It does make me wonder whether US kids are taught that WW2 didn't start until 1941! I realise "it's just a film" I'm just curious.
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After reading the last 15 posts you have written I have to conclude with out a shadow of a doubt that you are by far the most pro-war, homophobic person i have ever met. i pray that you never leave the US in you life because you are going to go to a place and yell at everyone because you disagree with there traditions. Because in your mind there culture is 'wrong', who is to say that your culture isn’t wrong?
When you go back 1500 years you have to understand that people had different values back then. In Europe you would get princesses getting engaged at the ages of 8-9 and being married off at the ages as early as 12. These things were happening in the middle ages. Another thing I AM NOT ISLAMIC but I find it really insulting when you call Mohammad a pedophile. Like motti said look at you own bishops and priest. Mohammad was exactly like Jesus and Moses for that matter. He was the Islamic messiah.
As for you being pro-war. You say you not pro-war but then you go and say things like 'lets go to war with Cuba, lets go to war with Iran, and north Korea' just for your info NK wants to be what ever they are right now (I cant remember if they are socialists or communists. or a lil of both but the fact remains that that country wants to be the way it is. The US does not want that and so they have pretty much killed their industry).
You’re telling us to narrow your minds, but buddy you may think your mind is open but it really is not. When your saying you hate a religion for acts that the minorities are doing you really are confused about your own state of mind.
When I say your homophobic I mean you are afraid of other cultures and strange people, it is obvious in everything you say on the site. Just curious have you ever sat down and look at communism on paper, it is brilliant, on paper but the problem is that man kind is not ready to use it. Why because of capitalize and globalization. The idea of putting yourself above everyone else for your own sake not for the sake of people that you may affect that idea is too widespread in the world for communism to work. Just so you don’t go ant think that I am pro-USSR the fact is that there has never present or past been a country that has been pure communist.
Here is one last fact for you chaltab YOUR BELIEFS and PEOPLE that have the SAME BELIEFS, as YOU are the reason the twin towers were attacked. Your views of being the best and being the champions of world, YOUR beliefs that YOU have to PROTECT the world from values and beliefs that are not the same as YOURS is the reason that there is such an Anti-American movement in the world. If you think about kids on the playgrounds this is what America would be like.
Once again I apologize if I offended you but you had to be told.
P.S. I am not anti-American, I am anti-American self-righteousness, and anti- your foreign policies that are biased to your views.
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how many native americans was it exactly that the pilgrims killed, chaltab?
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Originally posted by: Master Sifo-Dyas
Jesus is part of the Coran. He is one of the great prophets. So by hating the islamic religion, you also hate Jesus. I really pity you, but since you're still young, I have confidence your outlook on the world will change with growing experience.
First of all, it is spelled Quran or Koran, second "Jesus" in the Koran is not the Son of God, he is a prophet called Isa.
I've not read the Koran itself, but I have read a book by two FORMER MUSLIMS, so I am not ignorant about Islam.
And the statement "If you hate Islam you hate Jesus", frankly, makes you look stupid. Jesus is my LORD, my BOSS, my SAVIOUR. I don't hate Him. Mohammed didn't die for me. He didn't die for anyone.
I want to make it clear that I hate the teachings of Islam, nothing more.
OK. Gundark Hunter, I was speachless because I really have no way to answer what you said. I don't know any Muslims personally, so I can't judge them individually. But collectively, I think they have been decieved. The believe in a false religion. I don't hate them for it. They grew up in it. It has been drilled into their heads from day one.
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Originally posted by: die-jarjar-die
Whilst the subject of "ethnic cleansing" is high on the topic of debate....
lets bring up a few HISTORICAL points...
Hmmm lets see.....................Genocide.......
How about WHITE Americans commiting acts of genocide against the native people? Kinda sounds like ethnic cleansing to me......does that make it any better or worse than what Hitler attempted? No it doesn't, both are heinous evil acts THAT SHOULD NEVER BE FORGOTTEN. I'm sure it gets skipped over in US history class tho
& before anyone thinks I'm anti American.......Im a Brit & I'm WELL AWARE of the fact that The British Empire INVENTED the CONCENTRATION CAMP during the BOER WAR which was fought during 1899-1901.
Just changing the subject slightly.......had the misfortune of watching PEARL HARBOUR & was amazed at some of the liberties taken by Messers Bruckheimer & Bay, although rightly I should be pointing the finger of death at the script writers!
Hmm the first instance that annoyed me................the RAF pilots casual comment about "how the Yankee pilots would single handedly win the War"
& secondly the notion that the War didn't start until the bombing of Pearl Harbour!
Now these may seem inconsequential or perhaps even trivial to most of you, but to me I find it totally unbelievable! Just want to clarify something here....
To you Americans out there..........during your history classes do you study WW2? If so...what period do you study? By this I mean, do you study the War as a whole or just the American involvement? It does make me wonder whether US kids are taught that WW2 didn't start until 1941! I realise "it's just a film" I'm just curious.
Oh my Gosh! Yes let's blame the white man for the worlds problems. We caucasians are the cause of evil on Earth. Seriously. Yeah. The early settlers did some evil things. And yes they do teach that in US history. But why bring that up? Am I--or my family--or anybody alive today responsible for those massacres?
Also you have to remember that the many times attacks against indians were caused when Indians attacked first. I'm not saying genocide is ever an answer. It just makes me sick that you attack my credibility by pointing out the sins of a long-dead generation.
And yes, they do teach all of WWII in History. I wrote a report on WWII in the... er.. sixth grade I believe. Or maybe fourth...
And watching Pearl Harbor (it's been a while, Christmas Eve 2000, I think) never gave me the impression they were suggesting PH started the War.
Anyway. I am done with this one.
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Originally posted by: Shimraa
After reading the last 15 posts you have written I have to conclude with out a shadow of a doubt that you are by far the most pro-war, homophobic person i have ever met. i pray that you never leave the US in you life because you are going to go to a place and yell at everyone because you disagree with there traditions. Because in your mind there culture is 'wrong', who is to say that your culture isn’t wrong?
DARN IT I AM NOT "PRO WAR!!!""
I simply understand the fact that there is evil in this world and it must be confronted! And how have I said anything that makes me sound homophobic? I am not at all scared of homosexuals.
And there are a lot of things wrong with my culture. But we don't torture people for disagreeing with the government here in America. That makes it better than Iraq's old "culture" --if you could call it that.Quote
Originally posted by: Shimraa
When you go back 1500 years you have to understand that people had different values back then. In Europe you would get princesses getting engaged at the ages of 8-9 and being married off at the ages as early as 12. These things were happening in the middle ages. Another thing I AM NOT ISLAMIC but I find it really insulting when you call Mohammad a pedophile. Like motti said look at you own bishops and priest. Mohammad was exactly like Jesus and Moses for that matter. He was the Islamic messiah.
I honestly don't care if you find it insulting, as insult was not my intention. I was just pointing out the undenyable fact that Mohammed was quite perverted and therefore isn't exaclty "messiah" material. And If I remember correctly, Jesus and Moses served Yahweh, not Allah. Saying that Mohammed was excactly like Jesus and Moses is insulting. Mohammed didn't claim to be God, and Mohammed did no miracles. Mohammed doesn't offer universal forgiveness of sins.
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As for you being pro-war. You say you not pro-war but then you go and say things like 'lets go to war with Cuba, lets go to war with Iran, and north Korea' just for your info NK wants to be what ever they are right now (I cant remember if they are socialists or communists. or a lil of both but the fact remains that that country wants to be the way it is. The US does not want that and so they have pretty much killed their industry).
Yes. I am sure North Korea's people love oppressive torturous regimes that starve their own people to fund the military. Makes sense to you. And What are you talking about here? We are allready at war with the radical Islam extremists! They freakin' declared war on us back in 1998! And then attacked us four times before we did anything! The idea that America started this is completely off-base.
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You’re telling us to narrow your minds, but buddy you may think your mind is open but it really is not. When your saying you hate a religion for acts that the minorities are doing you really are confused about your own state of mind.
Once again, you leftists can't separate a joke from seriousness. I was just kidding with Motti who said I had a narrow mind. That is it. And besides. I have considered that your worldview may be valid. Then I realized that was an incredibly stupid idea.
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When I say your homophobic I mean you are afraid of other cultures and strange people, it is obvious in everything you say on the site. Just curious have you ever sat down and look at communism on paper, it is brilliant, on paper but the problem is that man kind is not ready to use it. Why because of capitalize and globalization. The idea of putting yourself above everyone else for your own sake not for the sake of people that you may affect that idea is too widespread in the world for communism to work. Just so you don’t go ant think that I am pro-USSR the fact is that there has never present or past been a country that has been pure communist.
Communism would be a great idea. But there is a little problem that gets in the way every time. It is called human nature. Humanity typically doesn't work without incentive. We are too selfish of creatures to work for the greater good. That is why communism in anytime in any form will fail.
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Here is one last fact for you chaltab YOUR BELIEFS and PEOPLE that have the SAME BELIEFS, as YOU are the reason the twin towers were attacked. Your views of being the best and being the champions of world, YOUR beliefs that YOU have to PROTECT the world from values and beliefs that are not the same as YOURS is the reason that there is such an Anti-American movement in the world. If you think about kids on the playgrounds this is what America would be like.
I am sick of ignorant statements like this. Blaming the American people for the attacks on the Trade Towers. The only people on whom the blame belongs is the terrorists who did it.
You don't offend me. Your idiotic rhetoric is simply an annoyance. It angers me that such blatant stupidity and moral relativism exist out there. Just because a cultures holds certain values doesnt mean that those values are right. And I hate much of what America values these days. It isn't my mind that is closed, Shimraa.
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didnt kill any Native Americans.
They almost died-out themsleves, until the Indians helped them.
You know. Tisquantum, Samoset, all that bunch.
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QuoteIt's not about spelling or letters, it is about the general spirit of that religion. And honestly, the way you were talking I wasn't sure if you'd know who 'Isa' was, so I referred to him as Jesus. It's the same person, so what's the deal?
First of all, it is spelled Quran or Koran
Also Jesus isn't anybody's boss. Churches have a hierarchical structure, the christianity Jesus preached hasn't. I have one final comment on this whole "war for a good cause" blasphemy: "Thou shalt not kill."
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"Oh my Gosh! Yes let's blame the white man for the worlds problems. We caucasians are the cause of evil on Earth."
Strangely enough I can imagine that there are probably millions of people, not in the Western world, that agree with that statement!Quote
"Also you have to remember that the many times attacks against indians were caused when Indians attacked first."
Not suggesting that there wasn't inter-tribe warfare, just don't think it was on quite the same scale as the white settlers attacksQuote
"And yes, they do teach all of WWII in History. I wrote a report on WWII in the... er.. sixth grade I believe. Or maybe fourth...
And watching Pearl Harbor (it's been a while, Christmas Eve 2000, I think) never gave me the impression they were suggesting PH started the War."
Ok thanks for answering that one, as I stated in my post I was merely curious as to how WW2 was taught, not attacking you in any way, go back & re-read my post, as a non-American, who had relatives that died in WW2, one is curious as to how you lot over the pond are taught. I also stated that I DO REALISE it's just a movie & wanted to make sure that it was just instances of movie glorification and not subtle "correctings of history".
I am in no way insulting you or suggesting that what you state is right or wrong, I was merely offering some other instances of acts of genocide that appear to have been "brushed under the carpet" so to speak. I personally feel it is important that these acts of genocide, as well as the mass slaughter in WW2, even WW1, NEVER BE FORGOTTEN. Do we really want to repeat past events?
Just a couple more examples of genocide:
The eradication of the Aborigines in Australia (damn those pesky white men, they are so evil), the atrocities commited by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia in 1975. In more recent memory there has been the acts of genocide commited against the Kurds in Kosova!
Chaltab, don't take my comments personally, they are not personal attacks, if they were I'm sure you'd notice
Regarding your comment above about white men being the evil of the world, well IMHO the white man, past & present, does have a lot to answer for, don't you think? By forgetting these events, because as you say, we are nothing to do with it, do you not think that we are blinding ourselves? Surely it is a great dishonour to simply forget these past crimes? Does it not bother you in the slightest that your distant anscestors were capable of such heinous acts? I know theres nothing we can do about it now, that's not the point, the point is that we can be best served by remembering past terrors and ensuring that OUR descendants don't repeat past mistakes.
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"No... but I've got a pretty good idea."
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Q: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
A: Because they had weapons of mass destruction.
Q: But the inspectors didn't find any weapons of mass destruction.
A: That's because the Iraqis were hiding them.
Q: And that's why we invaded Iraq?
A: Yep. Invasions always work better than inspections.
Q: But after we invaded them, we STILL didn't find any weapons of mass destruction, did we?
A: That's because the weapons are so well hidden. Don't worry, we'll find something, probably right before the 2004 election.
Q: Why did Iraq want all those weapons of mass destruction?
A: To use them in a war, silly.
Q: I'm confused. If they had all those weapons that they planned to use in a war, then why didn't they use any of those weapons when we went to war with them?
A: Well, obviously they didn't want anyone to know they had those weapons, so they chose to die by the thousands rather than defend themselves.
Q: That doesn't make sense. Why would they choose to die if they had all those big weapons with which they could have fought back?
A: It's a different culture. It's not supposed to make sense.
Q: I don't know about you, but I don't think they had any of those weapons our government said they did.
A: Well, you know, it doesn't matter whether or not they had those weapons. We had another good reason to invade them anyway.
Q: And what was that?
A: Even if Iraq didn't have weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein was a cruel dictator, which is another good reason to invade another country.
Q: Why? What does a cruel dictator do that makes it OK to invade his country?
A: Well, for one thing, he tortured his own people.
Q: Kind of like what they do in China?
A: Don't go comparing China to Iraq. China is a good economic competitor, where millions of people work for slave wages in sweatshops to make U.S. corporations richer.
Q: So if a country lets its people be exploited for American corporate gain, it's a good country, even if that country tortures people?
A: Right.
Q: Why were people in Iraq being tortured?
A: For political crimes, mostly, like criticizing the government. People who criticized the government in Iraq were sent to prison and tortured.
Q: Isn't that exactly what happens in China?
A: I told you, China is different.
Q: What's the difference between China and Iraq?
A: Well, for one thing, Iraq was ruled by the Ba'ath party, while China is Communist.
Q: Didn't you once tell me Communists were bad?
A: No, just Cuban Communists are bad.
Q: How are the Cuban Communists bad?
A: Well, for one thing, people who criticize the government in Cuba are sent to prison and tortured.
Q: Like in Iraq?
A: Exactly.
Q: And like in China, too?
A: I told you, China's a good economic competitor. Cuba, on the other hand, is not.
Q: How come Cuba isn't a good economic competitor?
A: Well, you see, back in the early 1960s, our government passed some laws that made it illegal for Americans to trade or do any business with Cuba until they stopped being Communists and started being capitalists like us.
Q: But if we got rid of those laws, opened up trade with Cuba, and started doing business with them, wouldn't that help the Cubans become capitalists?
A: Don't be a smart-ass.
Q: I didn't think I was being one.
A: Well, anyway, they also don't have freedom of religion in Cuba.
Q: Kind of like China and the Falun Gong movement?
A: I told you, stop saying bad things about China. Anyway, Saddam Hussein came to power through a military coup, so he's not really a legitimate leader anyway.
Q: What's a military coup?
A: That's when a military general takes over the government of a country by force, instead of holding free elections like we do in the United States.
Q: Didn't the ruler of Pakistan come to power by a military coup?
A: You mean General Pervez Musharraf? Uh, yeah, he did, but Pakistan is our friend.
Q: Why is Pakistan our friend if their leader is illegitimate?
A: I never said Pervez Musharraf was illegitimate.
Q: Didn't you just say a military general who comes to power by forcibly overthrowing the legitimate government of a nation is an illegitimate leader?
A: Only Saddam Hussein. Pervez Musharraf is our friend, because he helped us invade Afghanistan.
Q: Why did we invade Afghanistan?
A: Because of what they did to us on September 11th.
Q: What did Afghanistan do to us on September 11th?
A: Well, on September 11th, nineteen men - fifteen of them Saudi Arabians - hijacked four airplanes and flew three of them into buildings in New York and Washington, killing 3,000 innocent people.
Q: So how did Afghanistan figure into all that?
A: Afghanistan was where those bad men trained, under the oppressive rule of the Taliban.
Q: Aren't the Taliban those bad radical Islamics who chopped off people's heads and hands?
A: Yes, that's exactly who they were. Not only did they chop off people's heads and hands, but they oppressed women, too.
Q: Didn't the Bush administration give the Taliban 43 million dollars back in May of 2001?
A: Yes, but that money was a reward because they did such a good job fighting drugs.
Q: Fighting drugs?
A: Yes, the Taliban were very helpful in stopping people from growing opium poppies.
Q: How did they do such a good job?
A: Simple. If people were caught growing opium poppies, the Taliban would have their hands and heads cut off.
Q: So, when the Taliban cut off people's heads and hands for growing flowers, that was OK, but not if they cut people's heads and hands off for other reasons?
A: Yes. It's OK with us if radical Islamic fundamentalists cut off people's hands for growing flowers, but it's cruel if they cut off people's hands for stealing bread.
Q: Don't they also cut off people's hands and heads in Saudi Arabia?
A: That's different. Afghanistan was ruled by a tyrannical patriarchy that oppressed women and forced them to wear burqas whenever they were in public, with death by stoning as the penalty for women who did not comply.
Q: Don't Saudi women have to wear burqas in public, too?
A: No, Saudi women merely wear a traditional Islamic body covering.
Q: What's the difference?
A: The traditional Islamic covering worn by Saudi women is a modest yet fashionable garment that covers all of a woman's body except for her eyes and fingers. The burqa, on the other hand, is an evil tool of patriarchal oppression that covers all of a woman's body except for her eyes and fingers.
Q: It sounds like the same thing with a different name.
A: Now, don't go comparing Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are our friends.
Q: But I thought you said 15 of the 19 hijackers on September 11th were from Saudi Arabia.
A: Yes, but they trained in Afghanistan.
Q: Who trained them?
A: A very bad man named Osama bin Laden.
Q: Was he from Afghanistan?
A: Uh, no, he was from Saudi Arabia too. But he was a bad man, a very bad man.
Q: I seem to recall he was our friend once.
A: Only when we helped him and the mujahadeen repel the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan back in the 1980s.
Q: Who are the Soviets? Was that the Evil Communist Empire Ronald Reagan talked about?
A: There are no more Soviets. The Soviet Union broke up in 1990 or thereabouts, and now they have elections and capitalism like us. We call them Russians now.
Q: So the Soviets - I mean, the Russians - are now our friends?
A: Well, not really. You see, they were our friends for many years after they stopped being Soviets, but then they decided not to support our invasion of Iraq, so we're mad at them now. We're also mad at the French and the Germans because they didn't help us invade Iraq
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I wasn't reffring to any form of organized religion, either, and, yes, the modern Church is very different than the early church. And don't even get me started on the Catholic Church. But that isn't what I meant. I was reffering to Jesus personally being my Lord.
Thout shalt not Kill. That means You shall not murder. The ancient Hebrew word translated "kill" in the KJV means murder. You know that. Come on. God commanded the Isrealites to fight wars and kill people. God wouldn't tell people to violate His commands. So, please quit being ridiculous.
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Originally posted by: die-jarjar-dieQuote
Originally posted by: Darth ChaltabQuote
"Oh my Gosh! Yes let's blame the white man for the worlds problems. We caucasians are the cause of evil on Earth."
Strangely enough I can imagine that there are probably millions of people, not in the Western world, that agree with that statement!Quote
"Also you have to remember that the many times attacks against indians were caused when Indians attacked first."
Not suggesting that there wasn't inter-tribe warfare, just don't think it was on quite the same scale as the white settlers attacksQuote
"And yes, they do teach all of WWII in History. I wrote a report on WWII in the... er.. sixth grade I believe. Or maybe fourth...
And watching Pearl Harbor (it's been a while, Christmas Eve 2000, I think) never gave me the impression they were suggesting PH started the War."
Ok thanks for answering that one, as I stated in my post I was merely curious as to how WW2 was taught, not attacking you in any way, go back & re-read my post, as a non-American, who had relatives that died in WW2, one is curious as to how you lot over the pond are taught. I also stated that I DO REALISE it's just a movie & wanted to make sure that it was just instances of movie glorification and not subtle "correctings of history".
I am in no way insulting you or suggesting that what you state is right or wrong, I was merely offering some other instances of acts of genocide that appear to have been "brushed under the carpet" so to speak. I personally feel it is important that these acts of genocide, as well as the mass slaughter in WW2, even WW1, NEVER BE FORGOTTEN. Do we really want to repeat past events?
Just a couple more examples of genocide:
The eradication of the Aborigines in Australia (damn those pesky white men, they are so evil
Chaltab, don't take my comments personally, they are not personal attacks, if they were I'm sure you'd notice
Regarding your comment above about white men being the evil of the world, well IMHO the white man, past & present, does have a lot to answer for, don't you think? By forgetting these events, because as you say, we are nothing to do with it, do you not think that we are blinding ourselves? Surely it is a great dishonour to simply forget these past crimes? Does it not bother you in the slightest that your distant anscestors were capable of such heinous acts? I know theres nothing we can do about it now, that's not the point, the point is that we can be best served by remembering past terrors and ensuring that OUR descendants don't repeat past mistakes.
Yes, it bothers me very much that they did what they did. But the individuals responsible are to blame, are they not? Can we blame all blacks for OJ Simpson killing his wife? Can we blame all Asians for the crimes of Kim Jong? Of course not. I find it offensive that many (and I am not saying you are doing this) try and take the crimes of certain individuals and blame them on a race or culture. That is what I want to avoid, and I hope you understand where I am coming from. There is an attempt by some in our "educational facilities" here in the USA to revise history and/or discredit America as a nation by pointing out atrocites like the fact that certain people massacred Indians. As if my generation is responsible for those deeds. I hope we can agree that modern Americans aren't responsible for those things.
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Good point Motti. And, as Kevin Smith says in Dogma, denominations and beliefs are what ruin religion. God only wants people to believe in him and develop ideas, not beliefs, because beliefs are much harder to change than ideas.
Are you seriously looking to a movie like Dogma for spiritual anwers or something? LOL.
God wants to be our God. He wants us to "Do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly" with Him.
God is not some benign blob floating out in space.