The ‘Custom Special Edition’ That Almost Wasn’t, But Then Was (Released) — Page 25

Hey, Hal? How would you feel about adding back in some unused music that John Williams had composed for certain scenes. Not just in this project, but some of your other Star Wars projects too. I thought Adywan did a nice job for a small portion when Han is lowered out of the carbonite, whereas in the original film, the music stops, gone for a moment, and then comes back again.

Hadn’t heard about that before. If you have a list of things like that you’re thinking of, I can certainly give it consideration.

Thanks, Hal. I’ll post the links to other unused music in the other threads just to keep things in topic and for you to consider maybe adding them back in.

There are even more unused pieces of music that were for certain scenes, though they were replaced by other music. These listed are tracks that can be easily added back in for scenes with no music playing in the scenes.

A NEW HOPE:
https://youtu.be/jVA8iXM3ZLc?list=PLonU6sZXHsfptuMX0nh_I-hJnLw60RJFL&t=66 (This is the bumpy piece of music used when entering Mos Eisley in the 1977 theatrical version.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMyIbbg50Qc&list=PLonU6sZXHsfptuMX0nh_I-hJnLw60RJFL&index=27 (Part of this was used for the Special Edition version of Mos Eisley, despite being intended for the Dianoga scene.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySj_gmp3h4I&list=PLonU6sZXHsfptuMX0nh_I-hJnLw60RJFL&index=28 (The first bit was cut out during the Trash Compactor sequence.)

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK:
https://youtu.be/g_c80T0YXsY?list=PLonU6sZXHsfoS-jtDd9kFwqw-F_pSczK9&t=230 (This plays throughout Han’s return and activity in Echo Base.)

https://youtu.be/gDiuBhi-C2U?list=PLonU6sZXHsfoS-jtDd9kFwqw-F_pSczK9&t=96 (This plays during Luke’s journey through the blizzard.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnIGuHWxy7c&list=PLonU6sZXHsfoS-jtDd9kFwqw-F_pSczK9&index=4 (This plays when the Rebels close the shield doors.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ARSSAdkczg&list=PLonU6sZXHsfoS-jtDd9kFwqw-F_pSczK9&index=6 (This is when Han and Chewie go out to destroy the probe droid.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxUOjsaI148&list=PLonU6sZXHsfoS-jtDd9kFwqw-F_pSczK9&index=8 (The beginning of the Battle of Hoth music was cut off.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY27eQHYOAM&list=PLonU6sZXHsfoS-jtDd9kFwqw-F_pSczK9&index=14 (This is an extended version of Luke’s first encounter with Yoda. Originally, the music didn’t kick in until Yoda tells him he’ll take him to his hut.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o5zb-OeWH0&list=PLonU6sZXHsfoS-jtDd9kFwqw-F_pSczK9&index=17 (This is when Leia sees the Mynock and alerts Han about it.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjOADtPkRUg&list=PLonU6sZXHsfoS-jtDd9kFwqw-F_pSczK9&index=18 (This is when Luke is training with Yoda on his back.)

https://youtu.be/JM21R5gCkIE?list=PLonU6sZXHsfoS-jtDd9kFwqw-F_pSczK9&t=228 (The end of this music was cut off. This is when the Falcon lands at Cloud City.)

https://youtu.be/UOBD6B-gq7g?list=PLonU6sZXHsfoS-jtDd9kFwqw-F_pSczK9&t=146 (This is a bit of music that was mysteriously removed when Han is lowered out of the carbonite. Adywan restored it in Revisited.)

https://youtu.be/iwuEDsPTzTQ?list=PLonU6sZXHsfoS-jtDd9kFwqw-F_pSczK9&t=114 (This is for Luke’s first little battle with Vader.)

https://youtu.be/yrFjBf3_E6w?list=PLonU6sZXHsfoS-jtDd9kFwqw-F_pSczK9&t=124 (This is the second little encounter in the freezing chamber between Luke and Vader.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_9i72mYKDw&list=PLonU6sZXHsfoS-jtDd9kFwqw-F_pSczK9&index=32 (The first bit of music here is removed as Luke is exploring Cloud City before fighting Vader near the circular window.)

RETURN OF THE JEDI:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7EBvGQh57s&list=PLonU6sZXHsfpJuypBU28JpCO18aa7Ym0K&index=4 (This is when Threepio is negotiating with the droid at Jabba’s door.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CJwq81B4Xk&list=PLonU6sZXHsfpJuypBU28JpCO18aa7Ym0K&index=5 (This is right when the droids enter into the palace, right before Bib Fortuna’s introduction.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJiuOVfpFVg&list=PLonU6sZXHsfpJuypBU28JpCO18aa7Ym0K&index=11 (The first part of this was cut before Leia and Chewie arrive at Jabba’s Palace.)

https://youtu.be/tCJlCTHs3Lk?list=PLonU6sZXHsfpJuypBU28JpCO18aa7Ym0K&t=7 (Only the introduction to the Sarlacc was kept, the music here used for Threepio’s speech is removed.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3rAbX9Wprg&list=PLonU6sZXHsfpJuypBU28JpCO18aa7Ym0K&index=25 (This is for Luke and Obi-Wan’s conversation.)

I don’t think I’d use most of those, to be honest. Although, the lossless audio output makes it possible for the intrepid person to edit anything into them.

But, I’ll go over that list later on and at least consider them, especially those that patch up gaps in the film’s score.

Hal 9000 said:

I don’t think I’d use most of those, to be honest. Although, the lossless audio output makes it possible for the intrepid person to edit anything into them.

But, I’ll go over that list later on and at least consider them, especially those that patch up gaps in the film’s score.

Okay. Thanks, Hal.

I think generally when they decide to leave out score in the final mix, I agree with them. But thank you for compiling these!

Hal 9000 said:

I think generally when they decide to leave out score in the final mix, I agree with them. But thank you for compiling these!

No problem. I think the carbonite music that Adywan restored is the only one I feel is worth putting back in, as I always found it to be jarring how the music just stops and then comes back.

https://youtu.be/DFCjTjEUTns?t=175

The carbon freezing chamber score dropping out at that moment seems to be a deliberate creative decision, and I think I prefer it the way it is in the movie. Although, I can’t say I was aware of that before today!

It strange when you grow upon the SE and you watch the theatrical version of ESB when the open the door too Boba’s platform and the music stops just as when Chewie starts firing and it’s weird. The music add to the tension because we all feel like everyone else feels we almost save Han so I’m glad that’s one instance. Another strange music change is when Luke rises up into the Carbon Freezing chamber you hear the low piano note that starts the original fighting music intended for the scene but come time of the SE they cut it properly as soon as the door shuts on R2. I have to say my favorite bit of music composed but never made the final cut is the chamber fighting music though it works without it though it also works with it with the added emotions hear awesome renditions of Vader theme and when Luke gets the upper hand you hear Yoda’s theme meaning Yoda’s training has helped Luke for him to this point. I think ESB is Williams greatest work and how at least 30 to 40% of his score wasn’t used. I love how Harmy has a score only opinion so one could see all the intended music especially for Empire. Just a thought Id wanted to share

I know you’re waiting on Dat_SW_Guy to do a mockup of the intro to Mos Eisley, but is it okay if I give it a try as a mockup possibly, Hal? I don’t know VFX, so I wouldn’t be able to remove most of the womp rats like Adywan did.

I just noticed that Dat_SW_Guy finished his Mos Eisley mockup, I think.

Are you still planning on revising A New Hope like you mentioned with some of the changes back in September, Hal?

Yes! Once all those resources become extant and available. So no ETA but I’m planning to.

They are, at least at present, unchanged from the 19SE version aside from color correction from ohteedee.

Might be fun to do an alternate audio track to feature Morrison as Fett right as he gets ‘killed.’

I’m sure the new show will provide plenty of grunts and sounds like that. But does anyone know where to find a “what the—“ and a scream from Temuera Morrison?

Hal 9000 said:

Might be fun to do an alternate audio track to feature Morrison as Fett right as he gets ‘killed.’

I’m sure the new show will provide plenty of grunts and sounds like that. But does anyone know where to find a “what the—“ and a scream from Temuera Morrison?

If you want to find a scream, check out the death screams from the video game, Bounty Hunter.

https://youtu.be/AumkaP2WWUI?t=308

Perfect, thanks!

I’d also think it would be nice to re-time and properly sync Leia’s “Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You’re my only hope” during the garage scene, which Adywan also did.

I also really like Adywan’s new take on the saber onboard the Falcon in ANH. However, it remains to be seen whether it’ll match up well since I believe it’s built on the 2011 BluRay. But I agree that that’s the best that scene has ever looked.

Personally, I don’t feel the need to try to go in and correct myriad filmmaking issues like the Leia sync. I suppose I could give it a try, though. This project has slipped somewhat from its original goal of hybridizing official versions, but I still tend to lean in that direction anyway.

Would anyone be able and willing to do some dirt/scratch removal on a single shot? Ohteedee’s source for the DSII explosion is in need of such treatment.

Business was slow today so I worked on adding Morrison to ROTJ. I used the sound of Boba’s jet pack from Mandalorian s02e01 to help mask the original scream. I’ve replaced vocalization when Luke slices his blaster, he collapses, says “what the,” flies out of control, bashes against the barge, and gets swallowed. (The last two weren’t easily removed without damaging the soundscape because they took the other sound effects with them, so new sounds were added to augment them.)

It’s not polished fully, but it sounds all right. The performance is a little less screamy, but I tried to make it as close as possible. Fortunately the Bounty Hunter GameCube game provides a lot of options. I’ll post a clip whenever I can finish it up.

There’s also a very nice take of “as you wish” that I plan to add to ESB, to have in place for whenever I next revise it. (Won’t put out a whole release for just that.) I don’t plan to replace the other lines, since they would be paraphrased and wouldn’t blend well. The “as you wish” line is in a scene all its own and I think it’d do fine. It sounds like Morrison imitated the Wingreen delivery. For a hypothetical first time SE viewer this would be easier to swallow.

Here’s what I got, but I’m open to feedback:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wJ6tJrSvYTpPJEgRgsqoX-ZhOQ13CgeQ/view?usp=sharing