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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Yeah, it must have been too big of an expectation. The problem it seems, it that the prequels aren't what people had in their heads for 16 years that they would be. People seem to find it hard to accept that the prequels are the way they are. Is it really how Lucas says it is that: "people wanted to see Darth Vader running around and chopping people up with Lightsabers?"



I never in a million years expected Lucas to do that as much as I like the "Dark Lord of the Sith" and didnt expect Vader til No3, I always imagined that the prequel trilogy would be deeper than the swashbuckling adventure of SW
but what I did not expect was Jar-Jar Binks to have more screen time than Kenobi in Episode 1, and I feel overlong FX sequences which I found boring and which held the story back, and someone other than Kenobi discovering Anakin and Anakin creating C3-PO...Meance is I feel is average to above average fantasy Sci-fi but it lacks something for me that makes its Star Wars,


I feel Clones is not as bad as people make out but the love sequences lack something and the dialouge for them is weak(this is where i feel Lucas needed most collaberation) and the best two love sequences ended up in the deleted scenes, and I feel the Droid factory holds the story back and could have been told in less time, again to me its lacks the spark that makes it truely good Star Wars and feel it drags abit.


I have no real complaints about Sith which I feel is good Star Wars and feel now is Lucas best SW in 25 years

One problem is lack of proper villian other than Palpatine til Vader arrives Maul Dooku and Grievous were underused but interesting but some of time feel like a disposible villian til the enterance of Vader, Gunray does not feel a threat like he should , and the consistent villian in the O.T Vader and in SW Tarkin felt a threat as well as The Emperor.


I feel the Lucas overall story is good but the execution lets it down
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
I have to trust the old bearded one in his decisions, becuase I highly doubt he would spend and risk hundreds of millions of dollars, around ten years of his time and devotion, and countless interviews and queries, if he didn't know what he was doing.


Uh... right... knew what he was doing, just like with the Holiday Special, the Ewok movies, allowing himself to be associated with Howard the Duck, Jar- Jar Binks... Georgie always knows what he is doing, why can't we just trust the guy? Don't think George made the Holiday Special because he thought it would be a fitting sequel to Star Wars. He made it because Star Wars was big, and it was a way to cach in on a few extra bucks. Ewoks? Why did he make these? Because they were a fantastic tie in to the great Star Wars Saga and an important part of his ultimate vision? It was a great way to cash in more on SW movies. Many people liked the Ewoks, make a made for TV movie about them, people will eat it up. It went over well, make another. Time goes on and Star Wars stops pulling in as much as it used to, maybe the fans still buy every re-release of the trilogy but it isn't enough. Time to make the prequels!

And next, the Star Wars TV show? Star Wars is too big for the little screen, but people are going to eat it up all over again. The quality of it doesn't matter, it will probably just be a bunch of no name actor dancing around with lightsabers in front of a green screen, but it is Star Wars! So you'll be sure to watch. I'll be sure to watch. Then it comes out on DVD season by season. $$$$$$$ Yes, the great bearded one most certianly knows what he is doing, I don't think any one of doubts that.


Lucas was not really involved in the maiking of the holiday special, only attended a few meetings and was briefed on it. . He did in fact allow the holiday special for the big bucks, but he saw what could happen if he only wanted that, the story would suck. He wrote and executive produced the ewok films, and according to the cast even directed several scenes. Clearly he was quite devoted to the ewok films, and he knew it would make money. I don't honestly think anyone would pass up a chance to profit off of something like he did. After all, sadly, most people are only into things for the money. At least Lucas provided good stories while making the $$$$. It's just I don't think he would spend the kind of time and devotion he has on the prequels unless he had some greater goal than money.
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Firstly, Adam... your sig pic is making me want to kill myself. Seriously.... TOO BIG!

Second...

Take the famous "Nooooooooo!!!!!!!" from ROTS. I ask everyone, do you honestly think that it is any better than Lukes "Noooooo!!!!!!" in ESB?

This is the first time where I will disagree with you 200%. While I have made it clear that I think that everyone is entitled to their own opinions, I have to say that if you think that the Vader "jazz hands" scene from ROTS (the one scene that made me almost want to crawl under my seat in the theater the first time out) is on par with Luke's agony at the revelation that Vader is his father in EMPIRE, you are one tiny step away from delusion. Hell, I would go out on a limb and say that that is one of the best acted moments in the entire Original Trilogy! I know a lot of people like to parody it, but all I know is that every time I watch it, I feel Luke's pain reflected up on that screen. When I watch ol' Frankenvader in ROTS, I can't help but feel the urge to revert to my childhood mantra of "LALALALALALALALALALA, I'M NOT LISTENING TO YOU!". Good Lord... that scene seriously derailed a train that was at that point CHARGING down the tracks full steam. One of the biggest misteps in the entire Prequel Trilogy in my opinion.

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Luke's seemed just as pathetic to me and as horribly acted! My sig pic, by the way is supposed to shock everyone. I'll probably remove it or make it smaller in a few days. Funny, don't you think? Lumpy the moose is cool!
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
You know, one of the things many don't seem to understand about the acting style and writing style in the prequels is that he intended the acting/writing to be that way. The love story, plot, everything is modeled after the styles of the 30's, as he has said on many occasions. And I wouldn't expect one of those movies to have great acting. Also, many purists aren't being truthful to themselves in that the acting in the OT is that much better. Take the famous "Nooooooooo!!!!!!!" from ROTS. I ask everyone, do you honestly think that it is any better than Lukes "Noooooo!!!!!!" in ESB? Like father like son I suppose? Also take the fact that HC and MH had that same whiny acting style which LUCAS WANTED. I have to trust the old bearded one in his decisions, becuase I highly doubt he would spend and risk hundreds of millions of dollars, around ten years of his time and devotion, and countless interviews and queries, if he didn't know what he was doing.


Have you ever seen movies from the '30s or around that time time period? Ever seen Gone with the Wind? Just because it's old doesn't mean the acting isn't good. And when he said he wanted it to be like the 1930s, that had nothing to do with the performances. It meant that he wanted it to be in the same kind of style as the old cliffhanger serials of the '30s and '40s with the swashbuckling and action. Unless he is making a parody, no director would ever intentionally get bad performances out of their actors. I agree with C3PX. Star Wars spinoffs and merchandise don't necessarily sell well because they're good. They sell well because Star Wars has such a huge devoted fanbase who'll buy into it whether we like it or not.

And I really don't like people trying to pass off the prequels as just the first three movies of a six movie story because, despite what George says, that's not the way it was ever intended until now. That's just so people will actually accept them. The prequels are just like a "Making of..." documentary. The only purpose it serves is to explain how things got to the way they were in the first Star Wars. So why would you introduce your kids to the prequels first? If you ever buy a DVD of a movie you've never seen before, do you watch the documentaries about the movie before you watch the actual movie?

Didn't think so.

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Firstly, Adam... your sig pic is making me want to kill myself. Seriously.... TOO BIG!

Second...

Take the famous "Nooooooooo!!!!!!!" from ROTS. I ask everyone, do you honestly think that it is any better than Lukes "Noooooo!!!!!!" in ESB?

This is the first time where I will disagree with you 200%. While I have made it clear that I think that everyone is entitled to their own opinions, I have to say that if you think that the Vader "jazz hands" scene from ROTS (the one scene that made me almost want to crawl under my seat in the theater the first time out) is on par with Luke's agony at the revelation that Vader is his father in EMPIRE, you are one tiny step away from delusion. Hell, I would go out on a limb and say that that is one of the best acted moments in the entire Original Trilogy! I know a lot of people like to parody it, but all I know is that every time I watch it, I feel Luke's pain reflected up on that screen. When I watch ol' Frankenvader in ROTS, I can't help but feel the urge to revert to my childhood mantra of "LALALALALALALALALALA, I'M NOT LISTENING TO YOU!". Good Lord... that scene seriously derailed a train that was at that point CHARGING down the tracks full steam. One of the biggest misteps in the entire Prequel Trilogy in my opinion.


I agree with you completely.

As for the prequels, I wasn't expecting Vader hunting down Jedi throughout all three. I was expecting it for a decent segment of EPIII, however, as this IS the backstory! It is what Obi-wan said happened before! The Jedi didn't get gunned down like lousy punks by a bunch of pathetic clones (and if they did, they didn't get taken by surprise), they were personally seen to and killed by Darth Vader. The Clone Wars was clones vs. clones. Obi-wan was trained by Yoda directly. Obi-wan happened upon Anakin and trained him himself. Anakin was a crack starfighter pilot, not a crack podracer or accidentally crack starfighter pilot. The list goes on...fundamental backstory elements that were simply ignored for GL's 'greater new enhanced vision' yada yada yada.

In fact, if you want to know exactly what I expected, I have re-written the stories to EPI and II in the Fan Preservation and Edits section.

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I can see how the 70's child would see all the movies, having had the Vader revelation, but I was a 90's child who saw everything from a different perspective. Despuite having never seen the originals until after TPM in 1999, I grew up knowing Vader was Luke's father. That was never a shock to me. What interested me most was how he became Vader, which is why I like the prequels. I see all the movies as equal. I don't set around bashing any of them, I have just grew up appreciating all of them.


See, I was an 80s child - when I said I saw ANH & ESB at the age of 7, I'm talking 1991. I saw it on video. So, this is more than just a 70s child thing, this is an whoever-sees-the-OT-before-the-prequels-thing. Let the kids have the shocking ESB revelation, THEN the others - the opportunity to feel the tragedy of EPIII is always there. Because believe it or not, I did cry in EPIII when Anakin was crawling out of the lava. I did smile and laugh evilly when Darth Vader's mask went on. EPIII was a good movie, it just wasn't quite right because it had to fit in with EPI and II, and it still ignored some crucial backstory elements. Now you all know how old I am.
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I like the Lucas story overall but as said the execution lets it down

I still cant understand why Lucas when doing the prequels had Qui-Gonn and never had Kenobi finding Anakin, and insisted on having Anakin creating 3-PO and as you said had Anakin as an accidential Starfighter(I can buy the pod-racer Anakin but then goto an accidential Starfighter pilot). I personally feel we never as much as we should of him being a cunning warrior the best starpilot in the galaxy and a good friend...
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I'm just saying that at least he got what he wanted, since it was his story. The Luke/Vader revelation I feel, is just as powerful as the tragic feelings of Anakin turning and seeing that for the first time, seeing everyone betrayed and killed, then Luke learning the awful truth after that.
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I *sort of* see what you mean, but I think if you watched 'Sith' first, then the shock of 'Empire' would be gone, whereas if you watched them the other way around, you'd get both the shocking revelation of 'Empire' AND the tragedy of 'Sith'. Tragedy works on the notion of the hero, fatally flawed, fighting against and eventually coming to grips with his destiny/fate. Pity and catharsis is evoked in the audience as we watch the hero fall helplessly to the doom of his own construction.
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i personally think lucas wasted nine years of our lives on his dreck. i'm sorry but when is all said and done i would rather forget the prequels
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I would find it interesting to find out what people who hate the prequels felt before they started because I sure most people would be optomistic that it would rival or beat the original trilogy, because everyone surely wanted it to suceed and didnt start hating it for no reason.

When Lucas announced it I was estatic Star Wars is back after 16 years,Lucas cant fail, then Menace came along, what a piece of crap I thought as I posted it is the only SW film I have never seen in a cinema, but I assumed even Lucas is due a crap S W one day, and looked forward to Clones was better and liked it more but still didnt feel truely satisfied with the P.T, Only with Sith did I truely feel it was worth Lucas bringing out new Star Wars films and redeems the P.T slighty more and makes not feel like 9 wasted years and makes Clones more worthwhile.
but it has split the fanbase like never before and encouraged Lucas that he needs to fix the original trilogy again to fit with his prequels and created inconsistencies so is it worth it?
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I'd have to say that it probably wasn't worth it. I was anticipating the prequels since I saw ROTJ (which was when I was about 9, I think), and I remember having a grand ol' time imagining what happened before the OT. I didn't even know whether or not it was ever going to happen (the PT being created), I sort of hung out for it, even though I never thought it would. When I finally heard TPM was being made, I thought I was in 7th heaven. Even the 'making of' documentary made it look awesome. See, I didn't really expect it to outdo the OT, but I expected it to be just as good as the OT (as in, a natural extension of the Star Wars Trilogy), and just the thought of six Star Wars movies being that good...hot-damn!

Instead of being an organic, natural extension, it just seems to be its own microcosm, and the backstory elements that seemed as though they were a given, have been either completely ignored, compromised, or presented in a completely unlikely manner.

When I first saw TPM, however (and even AOTC, to some extent), I was completely brainwashed by the fact that it was Star Wars. Up until then, I thought Lucas could do no wrong. I tried to convince myself that it was awesome, even though all my non-Star Wars fan friends were saying that it was crap all around me. I would stay back and watch the entirety of the credits, just to absorb the moment, and to listen to 'Duel of the Fates'. I was in 7th heaven, but it was only because it was Star Wars and it was new. That feeling soon ran outta steam, and by the 4th viewing, I realised just how disappointing and crap it really was. I was still willing to believe that AOTC was going to be WAY better, and that GL would get back on track, but how wrong was I? On the first viewing, I just tried to ignore the ridiculous romance, the irritatingly poor 'humour' of C-3PO's coincidental mishaps, Anakin's sudden brain-explosion of anger against the sand-people, the Fetts' annoying New Zealand Maori accents, etc. but it only got me through the first viewing. After that, I just lost it. I was a fanboy no more. I became a prequel-basher and an OT purist.

I have to say, though, that I enjoyed EPIII, despite its numerous shortcomings - most of the other problems came from EPI and II - but it contained most of the stuff that I only ever expected the entire PT to cover in the first place. If EPIII was stretched over the entire PT, it's entirely possible that it could've been awesome. It could've been ONE complete, pre-written story divided into 3 installments, like the OT. But on its own, it just seemed like a rush to fit everything in that wasn't covered by the other prequels (which was quite a lot).

I think a few of GL's biggest mistakes in the PT were this:
- His infatuation with CG
- Minimal collaboration
- Less meticulous casting
- Naming ANH 'Episode IV' (thus restricting himself to have to make 3 prequels, instead of say, 1 or 4)
- Loss of OT 'headspace'
- Starting with Anakin as a child (I won't get into the numerous complications this causes, but basically, it wasted an entire episode)

That's enough from me.
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You hit the nail on the head.

I'd have to say too that, overall, they weren't worth it, because they inspired George to change the originals twice. The first time was a test run to see if CG ships could work in The Phantom Menace, so he redid a lot of the ships in the original movies, especially Star Wars. The second time was last year. He changed things in order to make them fit more with the prequels. Most people, including myself, have already said this before. The idiot should have made the prequels to fit the specifications he laid out for it in the OT, not gone back and covered his tracks (mistakes) by changing his older movies to match his newer ones. But now that the mistakes have been made, he should just accept it and move on with life rather than trying so hard to fit his square peg (PT) into the round hole (OT).

I do enjoy the prequels to an extent, though. More so back then than I do now. I mean, I can get some entertainment value out of them. I enjoyed Attack of the Clones more because it seemed to start relating more back to the story we'd heard before of Clone Wars and Imperial origins. The Phantom Menace just seemed so out there by comparison that you had to wonder why it was there to begin with. Unfortunately, Attack of the Clones also began George's obsession with CG. I mean, there was a lot of it in Phantom Menace, don't get me wrong. But not every shot was filmed on blue screen like in the following two movies. They actually used some real sets. Imagine that. And that did a lot to take me out of it and come to the opinion that Lucas has become a pretty shoddy filmmaker.

So I agree with redbaron.

Too much CG.
Bad continuity that makes him feel he has to go back and change the OT to fix it.
Already under the impression that his prequels have to be changed!

So even though I enjoy them some, it doesn't really balance out, and I think we would have been better off without them.

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The funny thing is, people rag on TMRFE about using too much blue-screen/CG for his prequels, yet "Sin City" was filmed ENTIRELY on green-screen and nobody really cares. Why? Because Sin City was actually GOOD. It didn't concentrate so much on the visuals that it forgot about the story. I think that should serve as an example to TMRFE for future reference: If you're gonna use a bunch of CG/blue-screen bits in your movies, just make sure the story is good first.

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The funny thing is, people rag on TMRFE about using too much blue-screen/CG for his prequels, yet "Sin City" was filmed ENTIRELY on green-screen and nobody really cares. Why? Because Sin City was actually GOOD. It didn't concentrate so much on the visuals that it forgot about the story. I think that should serve as an example to TMRFE for future reference: If you're gonna use a bunch of CG/blue-screen bits in your movies, just make sure the story is good first.



I agree with what you say, and Sin-City was a very good film

In Menace and Clones certain sequences seemed more like Lucas and ILM showing off, rather than the sequences which enhanced and kept the story moving.


It is another sad indictment of the prequels, some fans would rather watch an fan made edit of them rather than the the official DVD version, when the only edits of the originals the fans want is to bring them back to the thetrical versions or near enough.
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The funny thing is, people rag on TMRFE about using too much blue-screen/CG for his prequels, yet "Sin City" was filmed ENTIRELY on green-screen and nobody really cares. Why? Because Sin City was actually GOOD. It didn't concentrate so much on the visuals that it forgot about the story. I think that should serve as an example to TMRFE for future reference: If you're gonna use a bunch of CG/blue-screen bits in your movies, just make sure the story is good first.


Sorry, call me a Phillistine or what-not, but what does TMRFE stand for? So far, I've been pretty good at figuring out things like 'TPM', 'AOTC', 'ROTS', 'ANH', 'TESB', 'ROTJ', 'OT', 'O-OT', 'PT', 'GL', 'RM', 'DV', but I'm completely lost here!

I was interested in seeing Sin City. Pity none of my friends wanted to see it. So I take it it's a movie worth seeing, even on your lonesome? I'll have to rent it out when it comes out on video...
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"TMRFE" was used originally by Anthony Daniels in his old Star Wars Insider "Wonder Column"s, and it stands for "The Man Responsible For Everything"

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i second guessed the prequels long before they were released like from after i saw return of the jedi in re-release in 1986, till now. and they sucked.

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Get a drink, 'cause this is a long one....

I saw the original SW back in '77 when I was four years old, and it had a lasting effect on me. I saw each of the OT movies in their original theatrical release, and I was ecstatic when I first saw that the PT would be made, so many years after reading as a kid that Lucas had nine movies in mind. I identified strongly with Vader, and had done so all my life. My friends and family often referred to me as the Dark Lord of the Sith, and I grew into that role quite well, for reasons good and bad.

I was less than thrilled with some of the changes to the OT in the SE release, but I could more or less accept all but the addition of Greedo shooting in the Cantina and the musical number at Jabba's Palace. I didn't like the original number either though, to be honest -- that always seemed out ofplace for me. I'm not a huge detractor of the SE, to be honest. I feel that some things were unecessary, but I only really cringe at the whole Greedo/Han fiasco.

Then TPM came out, and I was annoyed as hell about some of the so-called comic relief in the film, but I was more excited to see that these are Jedi, the way that Jedi were in the prime of their lives, and in the prime of the existence of the Jedi order. I had that feeling of magic, of goosebumps and chills when the opening music began, when we first saw Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon, and when we saw them in action as Master and Padawan. That was magical, I thought. I was willing to accept the idea that Anakin was found as a child on Tatooine and most of his storyline, though the whole "virgin birth" thing kinda irked me. This was what I'd waited for 20+ years to learn though. Midichlorians were blasphemous, and I still choose to ignore them. Jar Jar was too over-the-top for my taste as well. (I'm grateful to ADM for edits that take away that silliness, and it's inspired me to plan on my own edits of all 6 at some point.)

Still, I had reason to be hopeful for the rest of the PT, even if I didn't agree with everything in TPM. My expectations were lower for AOTC as a result though.

That having been said, I thought that AOTC was far superior by comparison, even if the "courtship" scenes and the chemistry between Anakin and Padme were more than a bit forced. I actually have a fondness for the somewhat stilted speech of the SW universe, so most of the SW dialogue has never bothered me, despite complaints from the OT cast among others. Some of the scenes were once again unnecessary (the droid factory for one), but I was happy to see positive progress and the beginning of Anakin's fall to the Dark Side. It was a thrill ride with ups and downs, but there was far more positive than negative here, so I was willing to accept AOTC as a SW movie.

The 2004 DVD release came and I was like a kid again, watching the OT at home. Oddly enough, I realized I saw even more changes. Some of the bothersome stuff from the theater release of the SE was fixed, but more was changed. Once again, not much of an issue to me except for Greedo shooting at Han. I can even accept the voice change for Fett to some degree.

Then ROTS came.

This was the big one. The Main Event. This was supposed to be the cinematic "Rumble in the Jungle" that would clinch the SW movies as the greatest cinematic epics of all time, and not just in the eyes of the truly devoted. I was blown away by what I saw and what I felt at each scene. The first viewing was a spectacle -- a celebration with a few close friends as we made what would be our final pilgrimage to see the SW saga in theaters. But something felt somehow off in the end. For the second viewing a week later, I chose to go alone, as I wanted no outside influence before or after to sway my opinions.

I was still blown away by the big picture of what I saw, but the details bothered me a bit more. The dialogue between Anakin and Padme made me cringe almost as much as watching Greedo shoot at Han in the SE. Obi-Wan didn't seem so strong as he should have. And I won't go into the whole "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooo" that JEJ bellowed for the dark lord. The less said, the better there, I believe we can all agree.

I've come to terms with it all though. The PT isn't the OT, but it doesn't have to be for me to enjoy it. I wish it could have been done differently, been executed better so the "mistakes" between the two trilogies didn't have to be addressed. Since it wasn't, and because there is quite a bit for me to enjoy in the PT, I accept the broader concepts if not the details of the PT. I still feel the magic from the movies, but not nearly so frequently as I did before TPM.
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What about SKot, whose first star wars movie was The Star Wars Holiday Special?
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i personally feel the prequels are alright thanks to the psychological insight lucas gave to anakin, other than that the prequels arent very fun to watch, and werent made with as much care as they could and shouldve been
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And yet, I'm glad that I live in a world where Lucas was allowed to make exactly the kind of films that he wanted. There's only a select few directors who have actual control over their final product in the Hollywood studio system. For better or worse, Lucas, operating outside of that system, can put on the screen exactly what he wants.

Some might argue that it's those checks and balances that can make a film better...
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Yeah, they maintain some sort of standards that need to be met. Like Pixar movies. Many people have high expecations for them because of what quality they've shown in the past, and there's nothing wrong with that. If I or anyone expects more from lucas because he's delivered ten fold on it in the past, then, years later, doesn't with his jar jar infested prequels, we won't lynch his majesty, but rant and complain adnauseum. Personally, I'd admire Lucas even more than I did upon first viewing of his classic work if the new movies didn't trip and bumble all over themselves like the three stooges.

I showed the original trilogy to my older sister and she was absolutely captivated by the creativity, characters, the mystery and revelations throughout all three. I show her the new trilogy, she fell asleep during episode 1, so I skipped episode 2 since it was even more of a sleeping pill IMO, and we watched episode 3 (er... don't ask how please). She said, "This is stupid."

Honestly... I'd rather she had at least said, "eh, it's ok." Then I remembered Yoda's tearful goodbye to Chewbacca and replied, "yeah, this is stupid."

EDIT: Oh she enjoyed the Clone War cartoon though. I chuckle sometimes at how a story done in three and twelve minute intervals is more enjoyable than one that's approximately 6 hours, featuring work by some of the BEST talent in the industry. Lol what's up with that?
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