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Episode I Digital Yoda Images!!!! — Page 6
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Originally posted by: TheCassidy
You guys must be retarded. I watched the 2004 DVD 'ESB' last night, and Yoda still looks wicked.
The 'You will be' scene is awesome! That's acting baby, something CGI has a hard time doing.
True...But I was was watching Sith just earlier, and the scene where Yoda feels the pain when all the Jedi's start to die under order 66 is just heart wrenching. Brilliant stuff man!!
CGI or not, that is one of the best Yoda scenes in th whole 6 films...IMO of course!
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Originally posted by: TheCassidy
You guys must be retarded. I watched the 2004 DVD 'ESB' last night, and Yoda still looks wicked.
The 'You will be' scene is awesome! That's acting baby, something CGI has a hard time doing.
True...But I was was watching Sith just earlier, and the scene where Yoda feels the pain when all the Jedi's start to die under order 66 is just heart wrenching. Brilliant stuff man!!
CGI or not, that is one of the best Yoda scenes in th whole 6 films...IMO of course!
Thats one of my favourite scenes in Sith if not my favourite. The CGI Yoda is a fantastic achievement as well as the muppet one is of course..............
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
To be honest, I think that George would digitize Yoda (to be "consistent" with the prequels or to push the limits of technology, whatever...) in a heartbeat if he wasn't correctly worried that that change would be the straw that broke the camel's back and finally start a mainstream backlash against what he's done to his movies.
...and goodamnit, all this could easily be avoided if he'd just release the OOT on DVD. Then no one would give a rats ass what he did with the movies. People could still question his actions but there would be no reason for a backlash or him to fear experimenting. This is basically the entire meaning behind this site...a simple request to get the O-OT in a high quality format release so that he can continue doing what he wants and no one but the curious would need to worry...and if they did it would be needless.
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
To be honest, I think that George would digitize Yoda (to be "consistent" with the prequels or to push the limits of technology, whatever...) in a heartbeat if he wasn't correctly worried that that change would be the straw that broke the camel's back and finally start a mainstream backlash against what he's done to his movies.
...and goodamnit, all this could easily be avoided if he'd just release the OOT on DVD. Then no one would give a rats ass what he did with the movies. People could still question his actions but there would be no reason for a backlash or him to fear experimenting. This is basically the entire meaning behind this site...a simple request to get the O-OT in a high quality format release so that he can continue doing what he wants and no one but the curious would need to worry...and if they did it would be needless.
It's frustrating isn't it. He'll release the 'original revised vision' OT again and again, but one release of the '25% of what I really wanted' OT is too farfetched a proposal. I'm simply not buying them (and don't even own the 2004 release). But of course many millions will throw their money at them to see what new changes may have been made or whatever, then laud the good changes (updated fx)and rightfully complain about the stupid ones (Greedo shoots first). And on and on until the end of time...
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So in the George can tinker to his hearts content, I will have an opinion and defend the original scene/actor but probably will not watch it and I feel the Prequels need more tinkering than the originals(people may disagree)
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Originally posted by: sybeman
I'm not going to try to go back and find the post I want to quote, so just trust me that someone on here (or more than one person) said that they can tell when CG is used in a movie.
I can too -- and I hate it!
WARNING: I wrote the rant below and realised it rambled on and didn't really get to the point. Read at your own risk!
Special effects shots are (or should be) used only when you can't actually do what it is you want shot. Effects shots should still seem natural within the context of the film. I mean, I obviously know that there aren't spaceships and that, but if they look real, then that's great. Suspension of disbelief! I mean, when I first saw ESB and saw Yoda, he was really there on Dagobah. Once the movie was over, well, yeah, he was a puppet, but I believed he was real. Special effects have done their job when you believe it's real. In my opinion, if there's CG in a movie, I don't want to know it. I don't want to be able to tell where the CG effects are. They should be seamless. I hate hearing "The effects in that movie were awesome!" If you noticed where the CG effects (or any special effects) were, they haven't done their job. If you lose that suspension of disbelief, then it's not real for you anymore. CG never seems to fit in because it's not real enough. It pulls me out of the film, and it's that much harder to enjoy.
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The quote was mine, but you didn't need that. I think you've hit the nail right on the head. I agree with you that essentially, CG fails to suspend disbelief if used frequently, and for long periods of time. That's why I prefer the performance of the puppet Yoda in ESB/ROTJ, and it's also why I think the use of animatronics is what should be looked into. I think that to an extent, it combines the rigid movement of machines with the fluid movement of CG.
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Oh, and there will never, ever, be a CGI Yoda replacing the puppet Yoda in the early "Star Wars" movies. The audience seemed relieved by this news.
So let's put this rumor to bed. A CGI Yoda might be in The Phantom Menace, but we won't see him in the Classic Trilogy. Thank the Maker!!
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One interesting note from the event: Producer Rick McCallum and ILM animation director Rob Coleman confirmed that Lucas has continued to digitally massage the other Star Wars films. Specifically, Coleman indicated that the puppet Yoda from Episode I has been replaced with a digital Yoda that matches the character as seen in Episodes II and III. The CG performance was specifically tailored to match to Frank Oz's puppet performance. You'll be pleased to know that Coleman also told me, in no uncertain terms, that Oz's puppet work in The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi will NEVER be replaced with CG. So you fans can rest easy. You'll get to see the new changes on a future, as-yet-unscheduled box set release of the entire Star Wars saga on DVD and/or HD.
One other interesting item to report from the event: McCallum expects there to be 22 Young Indiana Jones Chronicles DVDs in all, 3 of which have been completed. The discs will include some 66 historical featurettes, now in production. Work has been ongoing for about 18 months on the Young Indy DVDs, with about another 18 months worth of work yet to be done. If all goes well, the plan is to tie the DVD release to the theatrical debut of Indy IV (the script for which Lucas is expected to finish this Sunday).
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What else have I missed, I wonder.
As for the change:
The pupput looks more real and tangible, as it is there and part of the shot. The digital does have a painted look to it, which gives away the effect. The digital though does look more like Yoda, especially prequel Yoda.
So really, it's between realism vs cartoonish but more like the character. It's a touch call on one pic. I never really had a problem with Episode I Yoda. Not like it matters. I've bought the film twice on two formats. I'm not buying it again.
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Originally posted by: Obi-Wan Kenobi
I think yoda looks pretty good.
Really? Maybe I can hook you two up.
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It also always bothered me how Lucas didnt notice this in the prequels. In the originals he talked like someone whose using english as a second language, where in the prequels he just talks backwards.
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