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Amadeus (1984) 35mm Theatrical-Cut (Anamorphic 2X). Help Needed! (Already in WIP)

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This has been haunting me for a long time and finally there are news in this project which I can finally share with you. I had the opportunity to snatch a 35mm copy of Amadeus (1984) in his glorious theatrical-cut on eBay in February 2021. Even though I did not know much about the difference between the theatrical and director’s cut, I came across with the thread here on this forum about the contribution of jimbotron235. I take the opportunity to thank you here for your amazing project which also motivated me to have a focus on obtaining the 35mm-Copy of Amadeus (1984):

(https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Amadeus-Theatrical-Cut-Restoration-1080p-V2-Released/id/16803)

I saw this movie for the first time in our school’s music class, my teacher loved it so much that we watched the entire movie in two sessions. Over the years, this classic became the prototype-movie of a character study for me in which two masters of their time try to either preserve their dominance at all costs or gain the fame they deserve through talent and competence. Told from a retro perspective, the protagonist is able to see his mistakes and shortcomings. Through this perspective, it becomes a psychological homage on forgiveness and regret.

When I saw this copy on eBay, I didn’t hesitate to buy it without bringing it up here first. I also wanted to make sure that the quality of the film is sufficient since it is an old print from the 80th copied in East Germany. The seller was upfront and honest in the first place and clarified that the colors faded, or more precisely: faded to magenta.

I was in contact with Dr.Cooper about this during that time and he reassured me that there are strong tools to overcome this issue already. He is also going to help me and guide this project with grading and restoring the whole film. Since it is my first project, I am thankful that he offered his help.

A couple of weeks ago, I also found a good opportunity for scanning the whole thing in 3208 x 2200 Pixels (approx.: 3,5K). Since I already got a test-scan of the second reel, I can confirm that the shift is relevant, but not the big deal I was afraid of. Although I am new to Davinci Resolve, I was able to tune down the magenta-shift with ravishing results. I think with the help of Dr.Cooper there is a lot more to get out of the print. Despite the fact that the print is not in a pristine shape regarding the fade to magenta, it has this magic only film is capable to reproduce. Currently I can only speak for the second reel, but there is not much dirt or many scratches on the film. I did some screen-caps for having an idea about how it is going to look later.

Just keep in mind: the copy has German optical-mono-sound, so nothing fancy, but it is still good to listen to and at least from an archival perspective also interesting to preserve as well. Dr.Cooper mentioned the English Laserdisc-Track which we can sync to this release, and there is also the DD-track on the DVD from 1997, which is mentioned by jimbotron235 in his Amadeus-Thread. Any help here, is also welcome.

My plan is to scan the rest of the film and restore the colours as soon as possible. Therefore, I need donations for scanning, shipping and storage, which will cost roundabout 300€ in total. The print is already paid. Therefore, I will take pledges towards the scanning costs, shipping and storage. When the project is funded, I will collect the donations and then order the scanning right away. The release will be exclusive for donors. Anyone who is interested in preserving this classic in 35mm is welcome to help covering the costs, please send me a message.

Here are some screen-caps. They’re illustrating the magenta-shift and also hopefully, what we can get out of it. Please keep in mind that these aren’t final results. I used a roughly rendered 1080p-file, which has just 8-Bit and 4:2:0. I can fully trust the scanning opportunity, since I know them and I have seen very good results already.

Pledges so far(74%):

stwd4nder2: 10$(8€) paid in advance
Soupdrinker0: 20€ paid in advance
SpacemanDoug: 25$ paid in advance
ZackR: 15$
tlen: 30€ paid in advance
Leatherface: 15$(12€) paid in advance
potatowes: 25$(20€) paid in advance
javidial 18€ paid
littlejoe416 20€ paid
gr33nban 10$ paid
0x897673 15€ paid
Venny 10€ paid
stretch009 18$

The Aluminum Falcon: 15$(12€) paid in advance (Fanres)
NeonBible: 20€ paid in advance (Fanres)
allldu: 10€ paid in advance (Fanres)
camskittles18: 20$ paid in advance (Fanres)
magstock: 50$(40€) paid in advance (Fanres)

I started collecting donations for the reason that no unnecessary delay will happen.
293€ are pledged.

Edit: I am finally able to release a first version of Amadeus. Till recently I definitely wanted to avoid a non-final-release, but I came to conclusion that a progressional release might be less stressful for all. I am happy to lay aside the delay-phase and that we can finally watch this entirely, even with some issues. I hope you all enjoy this. I am going to provide all participants a link to Amadeus. If I miss someone, please reach out to me.

Amadeus 35mm-Project WIP. Help needed!!

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Thanks SpacemanDoug. Any contribution will help to continue this project. When you have questions regarding the quality of the print etc, don’t hesitate. 😃

Amadeus 35mm-Project WIP. Help needed!!

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You’ll be very happy with the scan quality, it has a good Sony Pregius imager with a low noise floor and a very good backlight which also makes a big difference.

[ Scanning stuff since 2015 ]

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RU.08 said:

You’ll be very happy with the scan quality, it has a good Sony Pregius imager with a low noise floor and a very good backlight which also makes a big difference.

I have not the liberty to say much about the scanning contact for obvious reasons, but you are right with the sensor. The examples I have seen were so good that they have convinced me. I was thinking about 4K for scanning in the first place, but decided going for this opportunity. It didn’t make any sense to me not just because of the print itself, it would have been more expensive and I couldn’t justify it myself(again we are talking about the difference between 3,5K vs 4K). While I gained more experience about the details of scanning since then I think even more that it was a good decision now. But feel free to put some perspective of yours in it. It is just interesting to speak about details and differences on technical specs 😃

Amadeus 35mm-Project WIP. Help needed!!

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Well it’s 3K or 3.2K if you want to describe it that way, but the most common 4K 35mm scanner is the Blackmagic Cintel and it’s not as good since it has a rather noisy camera that hasn’t been changed in 4 or 5 years. So getting a better 4K scan in Europe right now isn’t that easy. Most other 4K scanners aren’t designed for prints either, so they have a range of issues dealing with print that they don’t have with negative. Most of the 4K places you have seen or talked to probably won’t be able to do as good a job.

The resolution doesn’t really matter I might add, your print won’t resolve a full 3K let alone 4K so you won’t be missing much detail. Scanning at higher resolution can improve the debayering but not much else.

Good luck, and again you will be happy with this scan, this scanner works really well with prints.

[ Scanning stuff since 2015 ]

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Thanks for the technical input. It is quite interesting what you are describing. But for now I am also amazed that there are many tools to extract the fade as good as possible. Before I got the rendered file of the second reel I didn’t believe it myself that this is possible. Of course, with the resources we have it will never be like “the Leopold” with an over a million dollars restoration-budget from Scorsese, but it will be enough to enjoy the movie.

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We already have reached 110€ in pledges and most of it is already paid. So that’s good news and just 190€ is left to ship and scan the print. Thanks to all donors who already paid in advance. 😃

Amadeus 35mm-Project WIP. Help needed!!

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I can donate in about a week! $15.

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I promise I’ll send my share in this coming week

Raccoons

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Yeah, if this is still in progress I’d love to chip in! Any updates?

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I can’t believe this project is already a year old now.

Project creator and film enthusiast.

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So I guess this project is dead, since there hasn’t been an update in 2 years.

Project creator and film enthusiast.