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Post #1439795

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Servii
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I abhor the "X undoes Y's accomplishments" criticism so much.
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14-Jul-2021, 3:22 PM

I’m saying Palpatine didn’t reclaim the galaxy in the ST.

He did. The First Order was essentially a puppet state to Palpatine, and the First Order effectively controlled the galaxy, so yes, he did.

They prevented the complete takeover in TROS.

The takeover had already happened. The First Order was already in power.

And yet the OT heroes DO overcome their failures. Luke becomes the legend he was meant to be and allows the galaxy to rise up on Exegol and defeat the FO across the galaxy. The Republic is inherently flawed, so the galaxy >cooperates in TROS.

Han dies a failure. His death is purely in service to Kylo’s arc. Luke commits suicide by trolling his nephew from a remote location. Leia dies to send a message to Ben that somehow redeems him, and Ben then proceeds to contribute nothing for the rest of the film besides reviving Rey.

The “legend” of Luke’s actions on Crait is ridiculous. How did the story spread? How would people even make sense of what happened there? Luke taunts Kylo, then disappears. This action is just the bare minimum to keep the Resistance alive, which Luke should have been helping from the start. It does not excuse his abandonment of his family and the galaxy in the hands of a monster he helped create.

And why do the people of the galaxy only show up to help when Lando convinces them? Were they already organized and ready to fight? If so, why weren’t we following that resistance instead of this little measly one. Or did they just wait a year after Luke’s death for no reason?

And? What’s wrong with paving the way for new heroes?

Paving the way for new heroes shouldn’t come at the needless expense of the old heroes. That’s bad storytelling.

Reread my point: “It’s just that they refused to militarize because they became the Empire because they militarized in AotC. Remember, they had no military before AotC. They inferred that demilitarizing would make sure >they never become another Empire.”

Except the Republic knows that the Empire still exists, is still out there somewhere gathering strength, and is still entirely hostile. When there is a large, looming hostile faction beyond your borders that fully intends to reclaim its territory from you and destroy you, total demilitarization is suicide.

Dude, they imply he’s survived death in ROTJ, backed by ROTJ literally showing us that he did blow up twice.

It doesn’t matter what you thought they were “implying.” Implying is not explaining. Throwaway lines aren’t enough for a huge plot point like this.

Do you really think “To cheat death is an ability only one had achieved, but if we work together, I know we can >discover the secret” referred to Plagueis?

Yes. That’s right.