logo Sign In

Post #1436622

Author
Burbin
Parent topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
Link to post in topic
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1436622/action/topic#1436622
Date created
21-Jun-2021, 5:35 PM

sherlockpotter said:

I mean, yeah, the whispers are fantastic. But the dagger translations wouldn’t affect them at all, so I don’t understand the worry, here. And in fact - “It would even make more sense now for her to storm off behind their backs on Endor, since she doesn’t want them to know what she’s doing” - if Finn and Poe already know that the Wayfinder is on DSII, then doesn’t that counteract your point? If Rey just randomly tells them, “I think we have to go to Endor” (i.e. the new translation plan), and they’re just in the background wondering what the heck they’re doing out here, then that would be in line with what you’re proposing.

What I mean is that they don’t know the precise location of the Wayfinder, Poe says “it’ll take years to find what we’re looking for”, Rey whispers to herself “only this blade tells”, like she’s thinking “oh no, I’ll have to follow the evil whispers…” before Jannah and co. walk in. It then makes more sense for Rey to storm off afterwards because she wouldn’t want to explain how she can find the exact location of the Wayfinder, she doesn’t want anyone to know about the dark whispers in her head. This wouldn’t work if the translation spells it out to everyone, they all would know about the whispers, tapping into the dark side, etc.

So it’s not as strong, and again, I think it would just feel like there are missing lines/scenes of Finn and Poe properly reacting to all of this information, whereas we can get away with far more if it’s something only Rey knows and is actively keeping to herself. Which again also better builds up on her struggles of isolation in the film.

I’m sure we could figure out some way of redubbing that line. That’s not a huge issue. And if not…it’s not the first time this film failed to get adequate coverage. J.J.'s whole MO is cutting emotional scenes short with a sudden enemy arrival, so it would blend right in!

That’s what I’m getting at, the dagger being inscribed with direct coordinates to Endor is not great, that’s why redubbing it sounds good on paper, but looking at the whole picture I think it can’t be changed without creating more issues, and trying to patch those in would just result in a worse overall outcome than just letting that small contrivance stand.

I thought we were cutting that line anyway, because they threw away their own story logic for the sake of a quick joke? (Namely that “Babu only works for the crew,” and also that the line implies he was broadcasting Rey’s location to the entire galaxy.)

I don’t see the issue with the Babu line, it’s clear Zorii and Babu are supposed to be good people and it’s not hard to rationalize it was an encrypted transmission on a rebel frequency Jannah and co. would be looking out for. This feels more like a nitpick you’d find on a “top 10 plot holes in TRoS” article rather than a legit issue that needs to be addressed.