Oh man, I absolutely love all of this discussion. 😄

Burbin said:

I’d say the central theme of the film is fighting alone vs standing together:

That’s a really nice way of looking at the film; and that also ties in really well with Ascendant, where we actually see the past Jedi standing with Rey. I’ll be honest, I still see Rey’s struggle as more insulated, with her feeling “separate” from her friends, rather than trying to shield them; which is probably why that line in the finale strikes me as so weird. But yeah, for Finn and Poe, that’s a great way to look at the film. (And that’s something that the new “Galaxy rising up” sequences will also help with here.)

Jar Jar Bricks said:

KumoNin said:

ThisIsCreation said:

I think this is a non issue. It doesn’t change the movie and alot of people wouldn’t give it a second thought

It caught me completely off guard and took me out of it, honestly. To be clear, I think this change is not a bad idea, and I think the soul possession should remain, it’s just that the hangar scene should be modified so that this makes more sense. (If that line is not in the nobody version I don’t care as much tho 😄)

Alright, I may have discovered a line that could replace Kylo’s contradictory line here. Not only is Kylo clearly not interested in becoming a Sith (see TLJ), but he also already knows that killing Palpatine with the dark side is no bueno. So the line “We’ll kill him and take the [Sith] throne” makes absolutely no sense from two different angles.

So here is what I propose: https://youtu.be/rRI1ctiFPh8 (audio WIP)

And here it is in text form: “You don’t need to say anything. You know what you need to do. You know.” offers hand

You know, when you first brought up changing this line, Jar Jar, I said that I couldn’t think of a way they could team up to kill Palpatine, have Kylo know about the possession, and make it all make sense. That seems to have been a lack of imagination on my part. I like the direction you’re taking the line; I like it a lot. On paper, it’s almost like he’s comforting Rey a little there. I do agree that the inflection doesn’t quite match - he sounds a bit like he’s jeering at her - but I’ll be interested to see where you take the line from here!

RogueLeader said:

It would be interesting if you could change some of Palpatine’s lines to make it sound like if Rey kills Palpatine, she will simply take his power. Power she needs to save her friends. (But in reality, Palpatine will just use her as his new host). So, for example, you could give Palpatine new lines like this.

Palpatine: You’re too weak. Only I have the power to save them.

Then later after she agrees, instead of saying “She will take her revenge”, Palpatine could say, “She will take my power”.

Ugh, yes to all of this! RogueLeader, can we just give you a screenwriter credit at this point? That all sounds really great conceptually - it’s basically a more feasible example of what I was looking to do originally: “You don’t have the power to save them. The Light is weak. Darkness will rise.” (And I 100% want to use your Rey Nobody stuff too!)

And Hal, I appreciate your blessing! I hope my edit won’t disappoint when I eventually make it!