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Post #1420129

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sherlockpotter
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Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker Redux Ideas thread
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Date created
27-Mar-2021, 12:55 AM

RogueLeader said:

From a fan-editing perspective, I feel like I see two strong directions people tend to lean in.

  1. People who want to keep the gist of how TROS played. Just try to improve the movie that is there, even if you don’t agree with every decision.

  2. People who liked TLJ tend to hard disagree with TROS’ story decisions more, so they have a stronger inclination to change the film more drastically.

I’m definitely in the second camp myself; but TROS just fails as its own movie, imo, let alone as a followup to TLJ, which I did love. Ret-cons like Rey Palpatine make me angry, to be sure; but there are so many places where the writing just utterly falls apart. Things like the stupid knife with the protractor, or the weird-ass plot point with the secondary navigation tower on Exegol. Why is Keri Russell in the movie? You could have just given the “You’re not alone” speech to Lando (Oh wait, they did do that, didn’t they? They had two different characters give Poe two different “You’re not alone” speeches.). Speaking of Lando, why has he spent the last 30 years hanging out on Pig Planet? Did Luke just abandon him there? Surely he wouldn’t want to stay?

The overaching plot doesn’t make any sense. Why did Palps announce his return rather than using the element of surprise? Why does he give himself an arbitrary 16 hour delay, when he proves that the fleet is ready to deploy whenever he feels like it? Why would Hux betray everything he believes in just because he dislikes a coworker? Why does Palps tell Kylo explicitly to kill Rey, when his whole plan depended on Rey magically finding her way to Exegol un-killed?

Then you add general story structure issues - the breakneck pace of the edit, the MacGuffins on MacGuffins on MacGuffins (“We need to find Ochi’s ship because it contains a clue that will lead to a doohickey that will give us a map that will lead us to Exegol!”), the fact that Kylo destroys the Prime MacGuffin, retroactively making the past hour we just spent looking for it pointless.

I’ve already discussed my issues with the muddled themes and the broken character arcs…

I really can’t think of any level on which this movie actually works. The fact that we’re getting even halfway decent fan edits out of it frankly blows my mind. This community is seriously talented.