Let’s allow Exegol to make even the slightest amount of sense. Please.
Yes, let’s allow Exegol to make the slightest amount of sense, by keeping the internal logic explicitly layed out by the movie both in the mission briefing, and built upon during the whole Exegol assault, istead of trimming everything away and, with nothing to replace it, being left with just nothing, having to fill in the gaps in your head to adhere to some head cannon that is not explicit anywhere in the film.
Look, Finn seems shocked that the Nav Tower is coming back online. Once it’s actually destroyed, Poe says “Their fleet is stuck here! They’re toast! Come on!” And then he sort of gestures over his shoulder, and he never takes out another SDDSSD. In fact, NO ONE TAkES OUT ANOTHER SDDSSD. They just leave, because what’s the First/Final Order going to do? Follow them? They’ve been trapped. The visuals of the film show that, as soon as the Nav Tower is destroyed, the Rebels start to leave without taking out more ships.
You say no one takes down another ship, even though after Ben and Leia fade away there’s literally a 16 second wide shot of hundreds of ships crashing down, and some more behind Rey as she leaves the Sith Citadel, with no more fuctional enemy ships left in the air as everyone leaves. Just because they don’t continue the montage of ships being taken down doesn’t mean the gazillion of civilian ships just decide to hang out and eat lunch while we focus on the main characters. The visuals of the film show that, as soon as the Nav Tower is destroyed, the civilian fleet continue taking down the rest of the Final Order fleet.
I guess I’m coming at this from a perspective of “What plan makes logical sense?” rather than “What do each of the characters say?”
So, like, we’re agreed that the Nav signal is required for the fleet to leave Exegol, right? In that case, the plan should be to destroy the nav signal, right? Because if their entire plan hinges on disabling the signal temporarily…my god, that’s just utterly stupid, isn’t it? Like, I genuinely can’t wrap my head around that plan. That actually goes beyond stupid; it’s utterly incomprehensible.
The plan is to “hit the fleet while they’re vulnerable on Exegol.” So why would the plan entail only keeping them on Exegol temporarily, when they could keep them on Exegol permanently? I’m talking from a logical, plan-making perspective. Which one makes more sense?
Disabling the signal temporarily is not “utterly stupid” if it’s the only option they have, you’re working on the assumption that they choose to do it temporairly, instead of it being the only choice, which again, it’s done that way to give the mission urgency, we have to assume they CAN’T generate a plan to disable the signal permanently. What IS utterly stupid is to conclude the final battle in the final film of the saga with the unspoken assumption that they just decide to leave a huge fleet of fully operational war machines behind, just because “they’re stuck”, instead of following the laid out plan to take them down. How does that make logical sense? What actually makes sense for them to do?
I’ve gone the past year and a half assuming that the battle was won by destroying the nav tower. Because it has to be. Maybe that’s on me; maybe I gave the film too much credit, letting it have even one sequence that’s somewhat intelligible.
Yes the battle is won by destroying the nav tower, which leaves the fleet stuck on Exegol and allows the civilian fleet to take them out, you were right on the money there. Finn assures victory by bringing the command ship down, otherwise a portion of the fleet might’ve been able to escape the atmosphere once the nav signal was restored.
Seriously, I’m trying to understand this cockamamie plan to “temporarily disable the Nav beacon, and then blow up a seemingly infinite number of ships in the few minutes during which they’re stalled”…and it’s like trying to conceptualize infinity. My brain can’t do it. I’m not being hyperbolic. Swear to god, I can’t comprehend it.
You are being hyperbolic. The plan is very straightforward and is laid out in detail on the mission briefing.