When did he bash fan preservations?
1h 48m 40s into that 2 hour video you plugged on here.
If anyone hasn’t yet seen the video - I wouldn’t bother. Yes, there are a couple of mistakes in the RJ video - though it didn’t need a 2 hour video remedy that; and nor in the abrupt, mocking and somewhat patronising manner delivered in Nerdonymous’ video. SparkySywer’s post here covers the Nerdonymous video in some detail to save you wasting two hours actually watching it.
That’s without the somewhat laughable claim made in the 2 hour video by Nerdonymous that the RJ video is somehow “simply an attempt to discredit George Lucas”.
So in summing it up… even after
watchingsitting through that 2-hour video linked by G&G-Fan, the RocketJump video is not “literally a lie”, or anything like it.It is though. They lied about George editing the rough cut (he didn’t; and before you say that they never said George edited the rough cut, it’s heavily implied and it’s what I and everybody else thought upon initially seeing the video),
It may be what you thought - though please don’t claim that to speak as to what “everyone else thought upon initally the seeing the video” - this obviously is not the case here.
The RJ video simply didn’t state what you claim to be a lie - as you admit yourself.
Asserting someone is claiming something that they are not… is indeed a strawman argument. (I think I read that something akin to that somewhere recently…)
So, no… the RJ video did not lie.
they lied about the reactions of the people who watched the rough cut,
Spielberg? He’s on record as saying Brian De Palma “went off on George” after watching the rough cut with Lucas’ other film-making friends.
De Palma? He is also on record as saying the crawl didn’t make any sense at all - ‘gibberish’ (?), kidding Lucas about the Force etc, what’s going on around here, that he didn’t understand the story, who are these people, who’s the hairy guy, etc’. “But you have to understand, we used to look at each other’s movies in order to be helpful. We might say some things that weren’t nice.” - De Palma also admits his harsh criticisms didn’t always go down well for some, yet Lucas never took offense to his remarks about the movie.
Isn’t the audio footage used by RJ from the HBO doc on Spielberg? Spielberg actually doing his De Palma impression? (it has been a long time since I watched it; I think it is - though could be wrong).
So, no… the RJ video did not lie.
they lied about the editors being the ones to decide to remove the early Luke scenes,
They simply quoted Richard Chew, from ‘The Making Of Star Wars’ book by Rinzler, as saying:-
“In the first five minutes we were hitting everybody with more information they could handle. There were too many storylines to keep straight: the robots and the princess, Vader, Luke. So we simplified it by taking Luke and Biggs out”.
This is quite strange… as apparently ‘The Making Of Star Wars’ book by Rinzler is a trusted and “peer-written published material” for you… yet now it is a lie? Huh, interesting that.
So, no… the RJ video did not lie.
they lied about the reasons the Death Star scenes were moved later
The conference scene on board the Death Star? What exactly is your reason for claiming that RocketJump ‘lied’ to be?
Seems it simply made more sense to the story to re-arrange those scenes, yes?
and straight up lied that Marcia Lucas came up with the idea that the Death Star was going to destroy the Rebel base.
Edit: Perhaps the misconstrued what Marcia Lucas said when she talks about introducing the ‘time clock’ to the Death Star Trench Run Attack to give it more tension (as demonstrated here in this video of Marcia talking about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOxfmq0nCEs - at 1h, 07m 47s into the video)
It’d be interesting to hear what RJ’s source or basis for was for their claim - or if RJ misinterpreted it? Have they commented on it as yet (I imagine others have asked them about it)?
And if you want to claim that The Making of Star Wars and all of the others books written about the production of Star Wars he referenced (which were all written by people OTHER then George Lucas) are lies and there’s massive conspiracy going on, then fine, but I’m going to trust actual peer-written published material over “Dude(s) trust me”. I guess all of those scripts are lies too. But the 12 minute video that barely bothers to pull quotes, that’s the stuff!
‘peer-written published material’ - where is this material? Don’t say the ‘The Making of Star Wars’ by Rinzler; you’ve just accused Chew’s comments from that very book as being a lie told by RocketJump.
I’ve not made a claim about ‘The Making Of Star Wars’ prior to this post in the thread - nor any other books about the subject of the RJ or Nerdanonymous videos. If you’re going to plainly just make things up to try to pin false claims on others… then you should probably think again.
Hokey hyperbole, exaggeration, and false claims are no match for good blaster facts at your side.
As stated previously…
Some of the RJ video you may disagree with, some of it may indeed be incorrect (or there are other sources / recollections by people used in that could be seen as conflicting with each other), or some of it ‘from a certain point of view’… YMMV.
It still doesn’t make the RocketJump video “literally a lie”.