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I think we REALLY dodge a bullet with Episode III. (read inside..)

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You're right! I never thought of it that way before.
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Oops, hit the reply button too soon.

If anyone posted this already, my apologizes...

I looked through the "Art of Episode III. Revenge of the Sith" book the other day. In it, it talk about how they originally planned for Han Solo to be raised by Chewbacca on Kaayyakk (sp?). The sidebar was accompanied by drawings of a young Han in brown, leathery outfit of tunic, shorts, leggings,and boots.


Just think about that. It would have been 3 for 3:

!) In Episode I: We learn that Anikin Skywalker--the future Darth Vader---built C-3P0.

2) In Episode II: We learned that Boba Fett was a clone of his father Jango Fett.

3) and now in Episode III....

It was very possible for Lucas to do this. But for whatever reason, he didn't.


Let's breathe a collective sigh of relief.

There's always something missing....
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Yeah, that's one of those documented 'Thank God he cut it' moments.

Another one I'm glad wasn't included was the so-called 'Crazy Yoda' sequence, where Yoda covered himself in mud and twigs to escape the Clonetroopers. Thankfully he just shimmied up Chewie's back instead.

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Originally posted by: Ell the Ewok
Wasnt Han an Imp who freed Chewie when they were using Wookies to build to Deathstar and ran away?



Yup, Ell, that's what the other sources say (don't know about the building the death star bit, though) . It's a much better origin of their friendship. So, again we dodge a bullet on this one.
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OK, now I'm convinced that Lucas has no idea how to write believable fiction...

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The idea of Han as a Tarzan (TarzHan?) style orphan on Kashyyk seems to date back to Empire Strikes Back, or at least 1997, according to the Annotated Screenplays, with this little gem from the Empire Strikes Back section (page 131)
"Many changes in Han's character were discussed during story meetings. In coming up with a possible mission for Han, George Lucas fleshed out the character's backstory. Han is an orphan and was raised by Wookiees on their planet. He left, flunke dout of the Space Academy, and then met some kind of Ernest Hemingway character, a very powerful trader in the galaxy who took Han under his wing until they had a falling out. Han swore he'd never talk to him again."

Which goes to show Lucas never likes to throw away and idea, no matter what its merits. As an idea for a backstory I could live with it. As for including it the prequels, well thats just another contrivance that results in making the star wars universe that much smaller.

Which also leads me to another point, how come the prequels have next to no backstory?
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Originally posted by: s7en

Which also leads me to another point, how come the prequels have next to no backstory?


Well, there's no way a writer of Lucas's caliber could write anything decent story in what was supposedly a thousand+-year era of peace from the end of Darth Bane's life to the outbreak of the Clone War

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I had always thought that Han had saved Chewie's life during the Clone Wars as the Empire was exterminating the Wookie's on their home planet. That was the way I had always heard it.

This wouldn't have been the worst addition ever.
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Which also leads me to another point, how come the prequels have next to no backstory?


The 'Prequels' were the backstory, which is why they don't really work.

Any good screenwriter will tell you that backstory is best left at just that. It gives charatcers and plot depth and meaning, but never really ahould be delved into. The Godfather II is an example were it did work, though.
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I've read about Han Solo being on ROTS but the whole idea being scrapped. I wonder how many people and how many days it took to convince GL to give up this idea.
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han was raised by a female wookie, which is an idea lucas ripped off from tarzan, and burroughs got the idea from the roman myth of romulas and remus being raised by a wolf. It ended up in the ann crispin trilogy, and the guy han modeled himself on eventually became garm bel iblis. and han's first meeting with chewie was when he was an imperial liutenant who was drummed out of the service for saving a wookie slave, who actually happened to be chewbacca. Which is in both The ann crispin han solo trilogy, and brian daley's.

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I heard that Han was a mysterious smuggler and a star pilot who met up with Luke & Obi-Wan in the Mos Eisley cantina and then set off on one crazy ass adventure...

I'm pretty happy leaving it at that.

It's like suddenly somewhere filmmakers decided that the public were morons, and needed to have every little detail penciled in for them. What ever happened to using your imagination? That's also why I'm not particularly fond of 'Last Crusade,' because it de-mystifies everything about Indiana Jones, and takes away some of the character's charm.

Same thing if they had of filmed the Han scene. So, yes, Jay is right in saying we dodged a bullet. And until we know who nixed the scene, it's all just conjecture. Who knows? Maybe Rick 'Yes-Man' MacCallum is more responsible for some of the bad stuff about the Prequels than Lucas.
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The remaining Wookiee scene is probably the compromise made out of that.

George: We can't have Han? Nobody likes that idea? *starts crying* Well, I gotta keep the Wookiee! Don't take away my Wookiee!

Everyone else: *sigh* You can keep the Wookiee.

George: Yay! Now let's talk about how Padme's going to die in childbirth!

Everyone else: *groan*

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Originally posted by: TheCassidy
I heard that Han was a mysterious smuggler and a star pilot who met up with Luke & Obi-Wan in the Mos Eisley cantina and then set off on one crazy ass adventure...

I'm pretty happy leaving it at that.

It's like suddenly somewhere filmmakers decided that the public were morons, and needed to have every little detail penciled in for them. What ever happened to using your imagination? That's also why I'm not particularly fond of 'Last Crusade,' because it de-mystifies everything about Indiana Jones, and takes away some of the character's charm.

Same thing if they had of filmed the Han scene. So, yes, Jay is right in saying we dodged a bullet. And until we know who nixed the scene, it's all just conjecture. Who knows? Maybe Rick 'Yes-Man' MacCallum is more responsible for some of the bad stuff about the Prequels than Lucas.


The Last Crusade is probably my favourite Indy film, even though it goes to the unnecessary trouble of explaining the scar on his chin!
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I for one would have loved the Han scene. It would be great to learn the roots of our favorite smuggler. It could even be a great spin off film. Like the made for TV Ewok movies, they could make a Tarzan rip-off about young Han Solo being raised by wookies. Oh it would be wonderful. Also why did we never seen Lando in the prequels? It would have been great to find out that he is Mace Windu's son or nephew or something! Or they could have made it that Han, Luke and Leia turn out to be triplets! That would be awesome! It would be like Anakin was the father of every main character in the OT. Luke, Leia, 3PO, and Han. Or they could have been quadruplits, and throw Chewie in there also. I suppose that might be a bit of a plot hole since he is suppose to be 200 years old. Or they could have made Chewie Anakin's father! Maybe Shmi was just to ashamed to mention she was hopelessly attracted to a walking carpet. That would be neat. So many more great tie-ins George could have made, it makes me feel sorry he didn't fill the movies to their full potential.

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Sad thing is there's probably some SW weirdos out there who actually want this...



There are some SW weirdos that would accept that as a piece of art and not listen to any person with any constructive critism of it, and think its next Citizen Kane as long as the bearded one is involved.

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Originally posted by: C3PX
Or they could have made it that Han, Luke and Leia turn out to be triplets! That would be awesome!


Actually, come to think of it, that would be gross...instead of one brush with incest, we get two, and the latter goes the whole hog!
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WTF....did i miss something.....someone either needs to repost this link or if they can't for whatever reason post it publically, PM me it.

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Link? What link?

The one you're carrying inside your busting innards!

Just you reconsider playing that message!

No, I don't think he likes you at all!

No, I don't like you either.
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