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Post #1410392

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Jar Jar Bricks
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Date created
14-Feb-2021, 8:15 PM

jarbear said:

As for a personal view too, it’s better to at least imply there is distinction to the two since in the last movie, although it is a retcon now of the whole Kylo/Rey Mind Bridge connection is now the Dyad stuff … Palps was utterly surprised during the force draining thing … when we have Snoke in the previous movie that “he bridged their minds.” If Snoke is the Meat Puppet, then Palps did it … so there should be no surprise.

Now I know the whole Dyad thing was of JJ doings to help explain things and it was not the concept at all from the previous movie, and you can argue he just bridged their minds as in being able to communicate in the force, but at another level compared to like Luke and Vader reaching out in the original movies and didn’t know about there Dyadness/in the room/etc., but for the audience we saw it in the last movie and now it has a name … and Snoke did something in the last movie to affect what we saw then and now … but he is Palpatine’s Meat Puppet … Why is he surprised and taken back by it? Even if he didn’t know for sure, he would have suspected something … but he didn’t.

This kind of questioning is why in my personal edit of TLJ Snoke does not say that line. Instead, he simply says, “Young fool. I stoked Ren’s conflicted soul. I knew he was not strong enough to hide it from you and you were not wise enough to resist the bait.” As a result, Snoke does not admit to knowing anything about the dyad. I feel this is a good change because their dyad most likely started in TFA in the torture chamber or possibly even earlier. (Remember him saying, “What girl?” like he knew who the officer was talking about?)

On the other hand, even if he did know about it, it might not necessarily be an issue. As I said previously, although Palpatine has some influence over Snoke, I do not believe he knows his every thought and action. It’s not like he sees Snoke’s perspective through a VR screen.