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Wexter said:

Just before we go to the crawl, there is a fade to black which I think could use some retiming. As it is, it fades slowly and we get just a brief glimpse of El-Les before going completely dark. This feels off. I suggest either fading earlier or later.

Agreed. The music is very light here, so I opted to fade, but something a bit more punctual might be nicer. There’re a few options in this area though, so I’ll look around.

When the clones escape the base, the droids report four clones having escaped. However, when we next meet the group, only three are present. This should probably be addressed in some way.

That’s a fair point. I was aiming to have them be offscreen entirely until they’re discovered by Rex and Cody, and to justify the suprise worm, I added later dialogue where they talk about it (“That’s a worm, that’s why we have the regulation not to go outside”). Problem is, it’s quite an ugly scene, so I’d hope to avoid it. I’ll see what options I have.

The reunion scene with 99 could also use some trimming. Echo mentions the generals receiving word of an impending attack, which seems a bit odd considering they themselves witnessed the separatist fleet moving in. Not sure what the options here are, though.

That’s a good point, I was more in the mindset of trimming the medal than the dialogue here. I’ll check over it again. Unfortunately 99 does kind of breeze past Hevy’s death, but that’s all I have to work with. I enjoyed ending up with a trim that makes him more immediately show he’s ready for battle though - he’s a soldier through and through.

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The cold open was a great suggestion. Starting right into the action makes the episode engaging from the start, for a moment I forgot we hadn’t had any credits yet 😄 And the rest is history. I agree with Wexter regarding the timing of the fade to black.

Yeah, good call Ice.

Good call on adding Fives referring to Echo by name! The new establishing shots before the test fit really nicely and the transition flows great.

Yup, another good community suggestion.

I’d say keep the talk between Shaak Ti and Lama Su, if just for the worldbuilding aspect and to give Shaak at least a bit of screentime.

I agree with you on this one, I think it’ll add a little value later.

Hevy and 99’s talk worked better than in the preliminary versions. Regarding the transition to Rookies, I’d say it would feel more natural with a couple seconds more of black screen with the “Two weeks later” card before the establishing shot.

Agreed. I’ll play around with this more.

On the matter of technical issues, Commander Colt’s second line of dialogue still gets lost among the sound mixing. The first one is corrected though 😃 Also, after Brick says “More like an impossible task”, a very faint line can be heard on the left channel of him saying “You can’t be serious, Eiles”. Is that supposed to be an unpolished part of the edit or is a remnant of a cut exchange? I’m leaning towards the latter.

Good spots. These are both issues caused by having some dialogue appear on the tracks with the music on, which makes it harder to fix. I might not be able to fix the Colt line, but I can probably tighten up Bric and El-Les talk.

I kind of missed Cutup’s death. I know we don’t spend much time with him in this version but, still, it’s a brief scene that also sets up the threat of the Eel (this creature feels somewhat random in its current only appearance without having been established prior to it). Restoring it would also address the continuity error just created where 4 clones are said to have escaped but 3 are shown alive.

Hm. Two in favour. I’ll see if I can include that with little other context, then.

Are you still planning on adding a new pre-mortem line for Hevy?

If I can find a nice one! With silence I think it’s fine, as he’s just getting on with business. But something to make it personal might be nice. I’m keeping an eye out.

A minor thing but maybe you could try keeping Ventress’s line “Keep playing with your droids”. The exchange with Grievous would feel more natural. I like their rivalry and mutual teasing of each other.

I figured I’d downplay this because it doesn’t go anywhere and it just seemed a little unprofessional for such a vital mission.

The pacing of the battle really benefits from cutting the Obi-Wan swimming bit and the later half of the encounter with Grievous. However, since Obi-Wan now does not appear again after forcing Grievous to retreat, maybe you could cut right before he starts chasing after him.

I’ll check that out.

Really glad you guys think it works 😃

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have been able to watch it myself this morning. I’m not gonna repeat things that have already been pointed out.

The merging of the three episodes is seamlessly. Really great work.

As it stands with the cold open before the intro. For me it felt awkward at the point where the episode really started (in the barracks). you, well i, could tell that the cold open and the barracks scene belonging together and did get split due to some reason (taking the perspective of a newbie here). It wasn’t a smooth start for the episode.
i do believe it would be better to move the cold open to the beginning of the episode.

But i know this is a minor opinion. If you want to keep it as it is, i would suggest to do a really cold open - video and audio wise. No transitions into.

Other than that, well paced, emotional, didn’t felt like 50 minutes and loved the echo referring from fives, well done.

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The blue text mentions Rex “patrolling” facilities, but shouldn’t it be “inspecting”?

I feel the “Two weeks later” could use a second or two more black screen before the visuals of the next scene start. Also perhaps surge of music just before this (as we focus on Hevy’s face) to further the idea that 99’s words have landed.

Other than that I was very pleased with everything - it felt contained and better than the three original episodes

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Ice said:

The blue text mentions Rex “patrolling” facilities, but shouldn’t it be “inspecting”?

I kind of wanted to imply he was broadly keeping an eye on everything (for at least a couple of weeks or more) in the whole area Grievous was last seen in. Do you reckon this doesn’t quite work?

I feel the “Two weeks later” could use a second or two more black screen before the visuals of the next scene start. Also perhaps surge of music just before this (as we focus on Hevy’s face) to further the idea that 99’s words have landed.

Agreed. I’m quickly learning that major transitions are often accompanied by musical swells, which is obviously not easy to produce since they’re not naturally there. But I’ll see what I can do to enhance the music in these areas. At least McFibb’s intro and outro will solve that for the major transitions.

Other than that I was very pleased with everything - it felt contained and better than the three original episodes

Super!

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Guys, I do have to thank you all again for being cool with me producing episodes in this format. If I can produce release cuts first, which show my intentions without being necessarily completely polished, I get such valuable feedback from you all that it makes the final outputs that much better.

I’m always anxious about presenting you guys with a first cut of these episodes that means your first experience of each isn’t a perfect one, but it means that in the longer run the episodes will come out stronger.

Of course, for those who want a perfect first time, they still have the option to wait.

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I think I just reacted to the fact that the word inspection is used both by the station commander “…squared away for inspection” and Obi-Wan speaking to Cody “How goes the inspection?”, and Cody speaking to the battle droid “We need to inspect the base all the same”.

You could also use both words in the intro text “Rex inspecting facilities during his patrol” etc.

I should point out though, that English is not my first language, so I’ll defer to your judgement in the matter 😃

About the droids reporting 4 clones escaped; it didn’t bother me at all, and if it bothers many members here I’m sure we can find a droid saying the word “three” or “some” somewhere in the series to paste in.

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EddieDean said:

Guys, I do have to thank you all again for being cool with me producing episodes in this format. If I can produce release cuts first, which show my intentions without being necessarily completely polished, I get such valuable feedback from you all that it makes the final outputs that much better.

I’m always anxious about presenting you guys with a first cut of these episodes that means your first experience of each isn’t a perfect one, but it means that in the longer run the episodes will come out stronger.

Of course, for those who want a perfect first time, they still have the option to wait.

nevertheless you deserve also credit for taking upon this immense project and be the head of the spear.

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Well, thanks! I didn’t intend to do the project myself when I made my first post, that was only intended to be an idea. And I’m really not one for projects, I generally don’t pick up creative hobbies. But as soon as I realised that there was support behind the idea and that I’d kind of been editing it in my head for about a decade, I realised I might be the right person to pick it up. That’s not to pat myself on the back too much, I don’t think I’m particularly skilled, it’s more to say that I’ve found I’m extremely motivated to do this, so it would be a shame to not allow that motivation to determine my course for a bit.

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I’ve been really impressed by your persistence at working on this. I’ve occasionally had ideas for editing TCW in the past, but I tend to lose interest in a day or two, whereas you’ve been at this for months, but are still having fresh ideas and have been editing with gusto. This might actually get finished!

I’ll try to watch Domino Squad tomorrow.

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Oh, I’m seeing it through to the end, no need to worry about that!

Having this be a two-way dialogue is extremely motivating too. Your ideas, suggestions, tweaks and help are all really valuable and it makes me feel like collectively we can pick out the best version of these episodes and this show. It’s also very motivating to know they’re well received. I don’t take the criticism badly because it’s all very constructive and vital to the success of the project - but hearing the good bits and that my episodes are considered an improvement really charges my batteries.

s01e06 Nightsisters and s01e00 Tartakovsky1 should be quite easy edits, so expect them fairly soon. Nightsisters will just be a merge and polish, and Tartakovsky1 is just a couple of easy trims. I think I won’t mess with the presentation of Tartakovsky1 too much - I think I’ll keep its original CLONE WARS logo, intro, and outro, rather than using the conventions of TCW:Refocused.

After that I’ve got s02e01 Ryloth, which is going to be another complex edit since it’s five episodes I don’t want all of, but after Ryloth almost all of season 2 are very easy edits.

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OK, so I had some extra time today so decided to plan the Nightsisters arc.

This was always going to be a straightforward one, because it’s just totally great and has a nice linear structure.

I thought about splitting the episode between the end of Monster (where Savage has just killed two Jedi and is now thoroughly ‘at large’) and the beginning of Witches (where the Jedi Council recover the two Jedi bodies and put Anakin and Obi-Wan on the case), and maybe putting another couple of episodes in between the two. But ultimately Witches brings the emotional arcs (Ventress’ and Savage’s) to a conclusion, plus I do want the Maul hint ASAP, so I think it is worth whipping through this one as a whole, just with a wipe between those two episodes that maybe represents a couple of days. But no “X DAYS LATER” text, I don’t think. Let’s just power through.

Nightsisters is basically fine as-is. I might trim a line where Dooku’s droid commander clarifies that shooting a ship will result in killing those on board rather than just obeying right away, and I might trim a very little of when Ventress is recovered by the scrapper crew (necessary since she then uses that ship). I’ll use the opening fight between Ventress, Anakin and Obi-Wan as the cold open.

Monster is a little slow in the middle when it’s just the selection process, so I might trim that down to just highlight Savage’s relationship with Feral (worthwhile since he kills him later) and just get through the combats quickly. I might also trim the line where Dooku thinks that he and Savage will overthrow Sidious, I know that’s a whole Sith thing but it’s a bit early to talk about overthrowing I reckon.

Witches of the Mist is also super, I’m going to trim Anakin saying he’s “popular with the ladies”. It’s OK when clones joke about it since they’ve been isolated and are entirely male, so it’s OK if women are something of a fascination for them, but I don’t think Anakin joking about being a hit with the girls quite lands right. I’m also going to cut most of Savage on Toydaria killing King Katunko, and having Obi-Wan and Anakin there. Now, he’ll be sent there by Dooku (and Anakin and Obi-Wan sent there by Talzin) but we’ll cut straight to Dooku throwing Katunko’s body on the floor of Dooku’s ship, and then have Obi-Wan and Anakin arrive afterwards but notice the ship in orbit so head there first. That won’t explain why they have a Toydarian style ship (not that it’s too obviously Toydarian), but they have resources behind them so if we have to I think we can assume they stopped off with a fleet to get something more appropriate. The gain here being that the less we can see Toydarians, the better.

Interestingly, this storyline almost needs no intro crawl, because it covers everything off within the episode itself, so this is actually a cool opportunity to fill that text with context for Nightsisters and some state of the galaxy stuff. Since this episode opens on Sullust, which has shipyards, we’ve now had a first season where the Separatists have struck at Christophsis (unknown purpose), medical stations (heal clones), Kamino (create clones), and Sullust (build ships). This all reads as the Separatists spending the first few battles of the war attempting to cripple the Republic before it can properly mobilise. So I may go through some past crawls and make that clearer. Having failed to do any of these things, we can then establish that the Republic now have a foothold from which they can grow their military forces, whereas the Separatists still have the overwhelming numbers.

In this scenario, I might like to recontextualise Christophsis as something equally strategic. Right now in canon it has no known purpose. Since it’s a crystalline planet I might have it as a munitions producer (you could imagine that the crystals become part of blasters, perhaps), or since a shield is part of the Christophsis episode’s plot, maybe it produces force shields for the republic, which implicitly the Separatists acquire after Ventress’ fleet suprises the gang. Interested in people’s thoughts here.

We’ve now had two (long) episodes in a row without Ahsoka, so I might reorder these six episodes as follows:
Christophsis > Mandalore > Malevolence > Domino Squad > Cloak of Darkness > Nightsisters. That balances Ahsoka versus no Ahsoka, and also balances our best episodes this season against our worst. We can then explain that, in the latter half of this season where shit is really kicking off in key Republic areas, Ahsoka’s off with Luminara for a bit. This unbalances Ventress a bit but I think it’s more important to balance Ahsoka.

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Your right the Nightsisters arc requires the least amount of meddling of the first batch. I’d say the three parts could work perfectly fine as a single episode (this way “501st Legion” doesn’t feel like the only black sheep with 50 minutes of runtime). Monster is the one that, as you say, would require the most trimming around the middle section. On first thought I don’t really agree with cutting the Toydarians as I don’t find their portrayal problematic (I’d say it was a saving throw from the producers to set them apart from the stereotyped, divisive Watto), but if it works better for the pacing (and also because Katuunko doesn’t feature in other Continuity cut episodes, so a first-time viewer wouldn’t have any connection to him) I can understand shortening that part.

Regarding the context of the episodes, you’re right that you could set a precedent with the Separatists striking at crucial targets. Christophsis in Legends was a flourishing mining industry with a strategically important position in the Corellian Run hyperlane. You could state that the resources from Christophsis helps fuel the Republic’s shipyards or weapons divisions.

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Hey EddieDean,

I’ve finished 4 pieces of animated concept art for the Domino Squad arc!

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In the morning I’ll begin work on some of the earlier episodes.

I’ll also PM you a downloadable link for these ones.


Join us in the OT.com Discord server!

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Oh, Chase, these are amazing buddy! Goddamn, the sheer quality that these’ll add to the presentation is amazing.

I absolutely LOVE the one with sunbeams over waves.

Could the fifth one from Domino Squad be either of these please?
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Chase Adams said:

Hey EddieDean,

I’ve finished 4 pieces of animated concept art for the Domino Squad arc!

Those waves were sick! Amazing

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I think I agree for most of the edits but I also think the Toydarians need a little bit of a role. I like the style of their city built for flying people and they lead to Savage showing why he’s so named. I also like Katuunko making a stand even though he probably knows he has no hope.

Christophsis, I’d suggest the crystals are important for the ray shield generation, the Republic does use some crystal based weapons (i.e. the lasers on the LAATs) but mostly they use the same sorts of weapons as the Separatists.
Malastair (the Dug planet) is their fuel planet and, as you point out, Kamino, Sullust, and the Medical Station are all military targets. It contrasts nicely with the end of the war and the Outer Rim Sieges where both sides are faffing around on places of no strategic importance not daring to strike at key sites like Kamino or Geonosis again.

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I’ve kinda been a lurker on this thread for a little while (everything looks really awesome by the way) but I decided to actually sign up today so hello!

All that being said, could I have a link to the tracker please?

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501st. I think if this truly were a new show I’d be asking, “Why do the clones have such piss and vinegar? I thought they were genetically altered to be docile sheeple that blindly took orders.”

Even so, I enjoyed this one. It wasn’t super fascinating but I assume it covers and develops up future primary clone characters, Rex and Cody included. There was some welcome involvement from other series regulars.

The pacing was quick, even as it was a longer episode. It’s just gonna be inevitable with this sort of project, though. It surprised me to see 99 DIE though, given the gag video you posted a couple days ago!

I like that Obi-Wan (and Yoda) hasn’t yet had much to do with R2. I don’t know if that will (or should) continue, but so far I imagine he’s just dismissive of droids as AOTC establishes him and probably doesn’t remember R2 by ANH or at least doesn’t assume it’s the same droid right away. Like if you finally remember someone’s name 10 minutes into a gathering and don’t really have the occasion afterward to use it. Like old Ben just doesn’t really care about droids much, kindly though he is.

Okay, I don’t know if that’s helpful as I’m just giving you my thoughts as I imagine having them if this were a new show.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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Okay, I don’t know if that’s helpful as I’m just giving you my thoughts as I imagine having them if this were a new show.

Totally useful Hal, thanks. It’s really useful to have these eyes. This arc does indeed set up some important clones coming forward, and like you say, this (and a couple of the earlier episodes) establish much more of clone personality. As you’ve noticed, they’re not docile/obedient… Though essentially the main clone plot throughout this show is an exploration of their relationship with their orders, mostly shown through Captain Rex, who gets some interesting loyalty based storylines.

The quick pacing is really quite a feature of the original show - it did absolutely whip past. But I think that helps me, because if I have to trim, and the resultant pacing is still quick, well, it’s not jarring.

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Wow. Not much else to say, that’s pretty damn professionally done.