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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 345

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I just rewatched TPM and had a funny little idea for an edit, which I’ll just dump in here 😄

So I thought that the initial conflict concerning trade deeds might be exchanged for a growing tension between the Gungan and the Naboo. In this version the Trade Federation might have been summoned by the Naboo, who are unable to stay against the Gungan military and the Jedi would have been dispatched to prevent a civil war. Captain Panaka has a line about the Naboo security force being unable to face a battle-hardened army, which might be put to good use to expand upon this idea.

Overall I feel as if this would add a lot to both Amidala entreating for the Gungans support and the ending scene showing the Gungan and Naboo declaring peace. (why is this scene even in this movie, when they never were at war?)

So that’s it for now, I’d love to hear some of your thoughts, have a nice day.

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For an edit that removes the Phantom Menace, I gave AOTC Anakin a more subtle intro scene - removing all references to him knowing Padme, and not referring to him by name until the end of the scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-xO0TYJ2u8&feature=youtu.be

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A few ideas I’ve had over the years include having Bail Organa sent to negotiate with the Trade Federation and Obi-Wan Kenobi appear as his aide but revealed to be his Jedi bodyguard once they are attempted to be killed. It also would have been fun to have introduce C-3PO as the protocol droid instead of TC-14 and he could have served as the comic relief instead of Jar Jar.

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Does anyone know of an instance in TCW of Obi-Wan saying the name “Skywalker?” He doesn’t do it in any of the movies (except for Return of the Jedi, but that’s a completely different voice).

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How I would do my Fan Edits (more realistic edition)
First of all skip TPM it adds almost nothing to the story. Start with AOTC and have a few TPM flashbacks like Darth Zounds edit. The base of this AOTC edit would be AOTC Sanded Down and Alaskan Sandmans Prequels Revisited. One ambitious thing I would add is when there is the flasback of the TPM scene where Anakin leaves home change the background to the Lars homestead and in the far back Rotoscope in Own and Clieg silently watching not saying anything and right beside Qui Gon Rotoscope Obi Wan standing beside him. The rest of the scene plays out the same. Ambitious yes but not impossible if Sheepish and Alaskan Sandman can do it to Dooku in their edits so could I. Then when Anakin goes back for his mother tweak the dialouge a little and your golden.
Then for an Ep 2 I would just edit TCW (2003) into a movie
For ROTS I would then once again use Alaskan Sandman but also The New Cannon Cut and Hal9000s Kashykk scenes and also I would have Padme die and only give birth to Luke,it would be easy to cut out the twins entirely.Also dub General Grievous.
Then for a New Hope I would use Adywan and Fixitinposts new Obi Wan/Vader duel. I would also change some dialogue between Obi Wan and Luke to fix continuity errors as well as make Luke say “You fought in the Droid Wars” instead of Clones because Wars are usually named by the victorious power and the enemy they fought
Empire Strikes back would be Adywans and the only change I would make is no “There is another line” because there is no sister twist in my edits because I hate it so much
For ROTJ I would use Adywan as well as Ziggy and Darth Rush and cut out everything about Leia being Lukes sister. I would also make The Second Death star a dyson sphere around Endor’s Sun through some extra special effects and tweaked dialouge such as it not being named the death star 2. That would be it pretty much

Everything after Empire Strikes Back is shit.

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While I’m personally more inclined to remove Yaddle altogether, one could go the other way and repurpose reaction shots of CPY by adding hair and making them shots of Yaddle. This would act as a way to preserve CPY, in much the same way Young Link and Dr. Mario act as time capsules for their respective fighters in Smash Bros., if that makes sense.

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CPY?

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I was thinking about some random ideas to better tie the PT with the OT, while trying to keep the plot twist (I’m gonna post here just the changes I would do to the PT)

Through the trilogy:
-Remove Yoda and Jabba to preserve their first appearances for the OT

Attack Of The Clones:
-Remove Anakin killing the Tuskens and him talking about it with Padme, the scene ends with Shmi’s death and the next time we see Anakin; he is bringing her body to the Lars’ home (Though he still kills them, as this event would be referenced by Palpatine in ROTS)

Revenge Of The Sith:
-During the hologram scene between Grievous and Sidious, the dialogue is changed a bit to have the sith lord saying: “I have a new apprentice, one more powerful than Skywalker and Kenobi” (I made this little change to imply that Sidious is so sure that Anakin will turn ti the dark side, that he already considers him his apprentice; while also implying to the audience that Palpatine has a new pupil that isn’t either Dooku or Anakin)
-Anakin still falls to the dark side but he is never called “Darth Vader” by anyone. The last time we see Anakin, he is burning on Mustafar
-If you wanted to put Vader on your edit, I would suggest to just leave his final scene with the Emperor and Tarkin
-If you want to, you could rearrange the ending to play along with Obi-Wan’s message from Rebels

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ELAYEM said:

Attack Of The Clones:
-Remove Anakin killing the Tuskens and him talking about it with Padme, the scene ends with Shmi’s death and the next time we see Anakin; he is bringing her body to the Lars’ home (Though he still kills them, as this event would be referenced by Palpatine in ROTS)

I think if you’re gonna cut it, you should just commit to it and cut the line from RotS. The line’s too vague in RotS, if I were watching that for the first time, I’d think it was an inconsistency.

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SparkySywer said:

I think if you’re gonna cut it, you should just commit to it and cut the line from RotS. The line’s too vague in RotS, if I were watching that for the first time, I’d think it was an inconsistency.

Yeah, I also wasn’t convinced with that line, it makes the whole deal even more convoluted

My reasoning behind that change would be that Sidious doesn’t trust Grievous enough to let him know his plans (It is implied in other media that Grievous doesn’t even know that the chancellor is Sidious)

But yeah, the post was meant to be part of another one that I wrote in the ideas for the OT (that’s why it has mostly ideas that other editors have already tried or discussed)

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One idea that I’ve been thinking about for a while is keeping in Anakin’s “I killed them all” speech, but changing it so that instead of killing the sand people, he just wanted to kill the sand people - but still felt really bad about it because he’s always been taught that anger leads to the dark side.

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Ed Slushie said:

One idea that I’ve been thinking about for a while is keeping in Anakin’s “I killed them all” speech, but changing it so that instead of killing the sand people, he just wanted to kill the sand people - but still felt really bad about it because he’s always been taught that anger leads to the dark side.

That’s honestly the best potential edit to AOTC. I’ve suggested before that the actual footage of the murder can be repurposed as a dream that he’s recounting for Padme, which makes him feel like he’s already straying from the Jedi path while still keeping him an ostensibly good person.

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So maybe you could have him say “I had a dream/nightmare” offscreen before he goes on his I Killed Them All rant?

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Some of those slick Y-Wings with all their plating?

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Honestly I’d like to see all of those ships and vehicles retroactively introduced by TCW to be included in the battle of Coruscant. I’d die to see Y-Wings and Z-95 Headhunters.

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Has anyone ever tried to edit AOTC love story so that Ani and Padmé already knew each other for some time and are stuck in an on/off-relationship?
Might work better with their chemistry.

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I know a lot of people have removed Yoda’s lightsaber fights from the prequels but has anybody successfully removed his lightsaber clone kill from the order 66 bit? I feel like you either need to remove all of it or none of it.

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What do you think of placing the asteroid chase in AOTC before Obi-Wan lands on Kamino.
This would add some lacking tension to Obi-Wan’s detective plot and give the viewer some questions to chew on, like: “Who’s behind the ambush?”, “Was Obi-Wan the intended target?”, “Why were the Kaminoans expecting him?”, “Did they put up the trap?”, “Did they expect someone else?”, etc.

But the real difficulty might be recoloring Geonosis and only Geonosis, that’s what I was struggling with 😛

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