The Clone Wars: Refocused [COMPLETE] + Subtitles for season one! — Page 15

@EddieDean — re: the cold open idea, I think ordering could be:

• New SW logo
• Intro text
• Cold open
• TCW logo (agree on movement)
• Episode title
• Core episode

I also agree with the previous commenter that fewer lines or split across two pages would be better. That said, left aligned works for me.

And I totally respect that each SW franchise can have its own unique identity. So run with it! We’re just voices in the ether with an opinion on everything!

And it can’t be said enough: thank you!

EddieDean said:

I’ll have to consider the cold open idea further. What you essentially need is a strong opening scene, followed by a beat to breathe where you’d put your titles, then a decent enough follow up scene. And I don’t know that every episode has that.

Remember, every audio transition is potentially jarring, so you generally want to avoid interrupting the episode as much as possible - it can reveal the amateur nature of the edit.

We’d also need a very strong ten second piece of music (like Mando’s ba-dummm) for the title to “own”.

Right on both counts. I’m happy to enlist myself in IDing appropriate music. I’ve also some experience as an audio engineer/mixer (though as a hobby vs pro), so happy to try my hand at any audio transition issues you face (eg. compression, EQ, limiting, etc.) It occurs to me too that a new member just posted he’s a pro engineer and interested in supporting fan edits. Maybe he’d be a good resource whenever you cross this bridge?

EddieDean said:
Here’s a question for you all: If I run out of concept ART for the closing credits, would it be best to fill the gaps with promotional shots from the episode (so nice shots but not concept), or other concept materials like the images they show when creating new assets like sets or characters, which are less beautiful but interesting in a different way?

Would work for me. Another idea would be, to use gimp and make screenshots from episodes more art-like via filter.

Here you’ve the thread from the pro audio engineer who’s looking to support fan edits
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/pro-audio-engineer-looking-to-get-involved/id/81422/page/1#1394162

I loved the opening and closing credits! I don’t have many unique things to say,most of my sentiments echo what others have already said, but I had an idea for the ending credits.

EddieDean said:
Here’s a question for you all: If I run out of concept ART for the closing credits, would it be best to fill the gaps with promotional shots from the episode (so nice shots but not concept), or other concept materials like the images they show when creating new assets like sets or characters, which are less beautiful but interesting in a different way?

I think if you want to keep the beauty aspect, you could potentially use screencaps from cut sequences/episodes. Stays thematically relevant and gives kudos to the rest of the series. Maybe you could throw on some sort of filter to make them look more like concept art?

• Splitting the text as you have and adding capitalisation is a great improvement. The slight zoom on the TCW logo also works well.
• The new intro music is alright, but I think I’m in the minority who quite liked the original, more melancholy music. While having Ahsoka’s theme there certainly helps cement her as the main character, I wouldn’t want a prospective audience to get sick of it, or for the repetition to reduce the impact of its use at the end of Season 5 (which I presume you’ll replicate to some degree).
• I’m not sold on the yellow credits text. Bright yellow is a Star Wars colour, but I don’t think it looks very nice on anything except black. I’d be tempted to use the teal, but to experiment with slightly zooming in each piece concept art and slowly panning across it in some random direction.
• I still think the TCW logo should be the first thing we see after the Star Wars TV intro (assuming cold opens aren’t feasible); and I think the new music would actually facilitate that even better.
• Regarding using screenshots of deleted scenes for the credits: isn’t it mostly unfinished, pre-viz stuff? I’d be in favour of filtering any screenshots you do use. An alternative is fanart but that’s a lot of permissions to ask for.
• On the topic of deleted scenes, it seems there are some fully animated sequences. Perhaps they could be readded, where they don’t conflict with the final episode, to beef up the runtime of shorter episodes. Though perhaps that goes against the ethos of cutting away filler.

sade1212 said:

• The new intro music is alright, but I think I’m in the minority who quite liked the original, more melancholy music. While having Ahsoka’s theme there certainly helps cement her as the main character, I wouldn’t want a prospective audience to get sick of it, or for the repetition to reduce the impact of its use at the end of Season 5 (which I presume you’ll replicate to some degree).

Seconded. Also, you may want to adjust the timing of the text. There is quite a lot of it and on my first watch the second screen text disappeared before I was able to take it all in.

• I second the more melancholy approach with the music. It could be difficult to aquiere a mando-like bombast intro.
• I love the yellow over the concept arts
• moving the tcw logo seems right. Additionally I would extend the display of it a few seconds more, also I think more zoom would work well.

Overall I think it is a great improvement 😃

I like both and I’m glad to see the subtler music return. It pairs really well with the centered and more spread out intro text. I also enjoyed the panning concept art a lot, so I hope that’s not too much extra work to keep.

If you go with V4, maybe consider having the TCW logo start more zoomed-in so it reaches the same ultimate size as it does in V3 despite being on-screen for a shorter time. I’d still be tempted by a fatter credits font, also - I think the Siege of Mandalore at least uses a pretty wide font for its “Created by George Lucas” text etc.

Have you thought about ending the final line of text with the amusingly-incorrect-but-traditional four dots that every opening crawl has?

Currently, V4 stands as my favorite.

The time for reading the entire text feels appropiate enough, though you could wait one second ore two for each new paragraph to fade in.

I second a wider font and teal color for the closing credits.

I like the motion for the backgrounds. If it were just a bit slower it would look better imo.

EddieDean said:

I was hoping nobody would say that about the speed of the end credits! I’ve got it right now so it ‘snaps’ which makes it more reproducible, though if I slow it down it’ll be much harder to copy times eleven for each episode. I’ll see if I have any other options.

The end credits are perfect, I meant the intro text (if it doesn’t cause issues with the score sync, of course).

I also prefer v4, like the others and most importantly yourself.
The motion of the background in the end credits is great. Would second a little wider font size.
As for the display of the single textlines: as suggested one or two seconds more I find difficult. I think half a second more would be enough.

Really great work mate.