I’m considering condensing the Ultimate Star Wars Saga down to a 9-in-1 rewrite told from the POV of Anakin, Luke, and Nellith. This’ll allow me to produce a full script while saving me years of interminable writing/rewriting.
What happens to the Republic after Ruusan? Any wars?
No fullscale wars, no. The Republic becomes complacent and slovenly in the centuries after the New Sith Wars, which leads to the growth of crime syndicates and localized conflicts between individual planets/systems. This is what ultimately causes the Clone Wars.
Yes. My own timeline marked the rise of the Hutts and the Megacorps (Kuat Drive Yards etc.) in the 200 years preceding the Clone Wars. The Clone Masters were the most powerful of these. But for about 700 years before this the Republic experienced it’s Golden Age.
“It is only through interaction, through decision and choice, through confrontation, physical or mental, that the Force can grow within you.”
-Kreia, Jedi Master and Sith Lord
Love how your rewrite takes into account the three dimensions of space
One change I want to suggest is to progress through hyperspace technology
Hypergates are the sole means of interstellar travel…as we progress through the series we see hyperspace tech advance
hyper-gates>>>hyper-rings for large battle stations>>>hyperspace rings for capital ships>>> hyperspace engines>>>hyperspace weapons
I’ve been doing some worldbuilding, and here’s what I’ve got nailed down for the SWS:RE Universe:
- The setting is our own Milky Way, some 25,000 years into the future.
- Earth has either been abandoned/forgotten or become the city-planet Had Abbadon.
- The Galactic Republic is 10,000-18,000 years old and spans a million worlds.
- The known galaxy spans 25% of the Milky Way.
- Excluding genetically divergent subspecies, just over three dozen sapient races inhabit the known galaxy.
- Though not particularly speciesist, the Galactic Republic is an almost entirely human/near-human domain. There are very few member worlds with significant non-human populations, and human/non-human admixture is almost unheard of outside the Outer Rim territories.
- Strong AI doesn’t exist. “Thinking machines” are actually cyborgs — robot bodies controlled by cultured organic brains.
- Manned fightercraft are considered archaic and hopelessly cumbersome in modern warfare. Armed forces tend to use either remote-controlled fighters or robot fighters in combat. Remote-controlled fighters have some advantage over robots, as an organic pilot can outwit the weak AI of robot fighters. However, in the event that a remote-controlled fighter is heavily damaged or destroyed, feedback through the neural interface can kill or brain-damage the organic controller.
- Lightsabers are entirely mystical, non-technological weapons which can only be constructed and ignited by trained Force adepts. At the heart of every lightsaber is a kyber crystal, the colour of which is shaped by the psyche/preferences of the adept who meditates over it. The blade of a lightsaber is paper-thin, with monomolecular edges. They don’t generate heat, but cut through almost any material by severing covalent bonds.
- Force-sensitivity isn’t genetic; it cannot be inherited patrilineally, and clones of Force-sensitives will not inherit their template’s Force-sensitivity. However, Force-sensitivity is often passed on matrilineally. And if one child in a set of twins (identical or fraternal) is Force-sensitive, their sibling(s) are invariably Force-sensitive as well.
- All space flight and space combat is in three dimensions.
- Single-biome worlds capable of supporting complex life are rare and often marginally habitable. Life on Hoth is limited to the equator, life on Tatooine to the poles, etc.
- Hyperspace travel is relatively slow. Travel between Tatooine and Alderaan — both Outer Rim planets — takes five days along a good hyperlane.
Love most of these ideas
One idea to suggest
Hyperspace speed is severely slow
It takes five months to get across the Galaxy in the fastest possible speed
I’ve been doing some worldbuilding, and here’s what I’ve got nailed down for the SWS:RE Universe:
- The setting is our own Milky Way, some 25,000 years into the future.
- Earth has either been abandoned/forgotten or become the city-planet Had Abbadon.
- The Galactic Republic is 10,000-18,000 years old and spans a million worlds.
- The known galaxy spans 25% of the Milky Way.
- Excluding genetically divergent subspecies, just over three dozen sapient races inhabit the known galaxy.
- Though not particularly speciesist, the Galactic Republic is an almost entirely human/near-human domain. There are very few member worlds with significant non-human populations, and human/non-human admixture is almost unheard of outside the Outer Rim territories.
- Strong AI doesn’t exist. “Thinking machines” are actually cyborgs — robot bodies controlled by cultured organic brains.
- Manned fightercraft are considered archaic and hopelessly cumbersome in modern warfare. Armed forces tend to use either remote-controlled fighters or robot fighters in combat. Remote-controlled fighters have some advantage over robots, as an organic pilot can outwit the weak AI of robot fighters. However, in the event that a remote-controlled fighter is heavily damaged or destroyed, feedback through the neural interface can kill or brain-damage the organic controller.
- Lightsabers are entirely mystical, non-technological weapons which can only be constructed and ignited by trained Force adepts. At the heart of every lightsaber is a kyber crystal, the colour of which is shaped by the psyche/preferences of the adept who meditates over it. The blade of a lightsaber is paper-thin, with monomolecular edges. They don’t generate heat, but cut through almost any material by severing covalent bonds.
- Force-sensitivity isn’t genetic; it cannot be inherited patrilineally, and clones of Force-sensitives will not inherit their template’s Force-sensitivity. However, Force-sensitivity is often passed on matrilineally. And if one child in a set of twins (identical or fraternal) is Force-sensitive, their sibling(s) are invariably Force-sensitive as well.
- All space flight and space combat is in three dimensions.
- Single-biome worlds capable of supporting complex life are rare and often marginally habitable. Life on Hoth is limited to the equator, life on Tatooine to the poles, etc.
- Hyperspace travel is relatively slow. Travel between Tatooine and Alderaan — both Outer Rim planets — takes five days along a good hyperlane.
Love most of these ideas
One idea to suggest
Hyperspace speed is severely slow
It takes five months to get across the Galaxy in the fastest possible speed
A journey from Tatooine to Had Abbadon would take about that long. A voyage into the Unknown Regions would take even longer.
EPISODE I: RECONSTRUCTED EDITION
Naboo is now Alderaan. At this point in time, Alderaan is the ruling planet of an independent system which has petitioned for Republic membership but is not yet part of that body.
Keeping this.
The Trade Federation is now the Federation Neimoidia. Instead of being a shipping/trading conglomerate (or whatever), the Federation’s a compact empire of mercenaries which hires its services out to planets/systems embroiled in small-scale conflicts.
Ditching this. I’d use the Mandalorian Death Watch instead.
Qui-Gon remains Obi-Wan’s master.
Ditching this. Yoda would be Obi-Wan’s master, with Qui-Gon Obi-Wan’s junior protege.
Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan wear black uniforms, the standard garb of Jedi.
Ditching this. Jedi would wear white uniforms.
[Obi-Wan] is the Jedi watchman of the Alderaan system. As such, he and [Qui-Gon] are already present on the planet’s surface when the Federation invades.
Keeping this.
Amidala and Padmé are now separate characters. Amidala is a child queen, 9 years old, innocent and demure. Padmé is one of her bodyguards, 17 years old, stern, with a lean muscular build.
Ditching this. I’d remove the Amidala/Padmé character altogether. A teenage Bail Organa would be the royal personage targeted by the Mandalorians, and his bodyguard would be the Mistryl Shadow Guard Nashira D’uquesne, a reimagined version of Anakin’s romantic partner from my previous PT rewrite.
Threepio is one of [Bail]'s servitors.
Keeping this.
Palpatine never appears in his Darth Sidious persona. It is Darth Maul alone who conspires with the [Mandalorians]. He is a human with red-&-black body tattoos, pristine white teeth, and a crown of feathers sewn with razor wire about his head. He wears white robes, the standard garb of Sith.
Ditching/amending this. I’m just completely sick to death of Maul; I’d use Asajj Ventress in his place, and she’d wear black.
The B1 battle droids are replaced with BX commando droids. These droids rarely speak.
Ditching this since Mandalorians are the enemy now.
[Obi-Wan], a nonconformist who straddles the line between orthodoxy/unorthdoxy, is the only Jedi who wields a green lightsaber. [Qui-Gon], more by-the-book than his master, wields a standard blue Jedi lightsaber.
Ditching this. Obi-Wan & Qui-Gon would both wield red lightsabers.
Gungans are present in the story, but Jar Jar is jettisoned.
Keeping this.
Anakin is 12 years old.
Ditching this. He’d be 14 years old to Nashira’s 19.
Cliegg Lars assumes Watto’s role. Owen is Anakin’s only friend. It is implied Cliegg is Anakin’s father (and Owen his half-brother).
Amending this. Cliegg would own the junk shop, but he’d be Anakin’s stepfather rather than biological father, and his relationship with Shmi would be a normal husband-wife relationship rather than one of master-slave.
No podrace. Qui-Gon successfully barters for Anakin’s freedom but hasn’t enough to buy Shmi’s.
Amending this. Still no podrace, but since Anakin’s not a slave, no bartering’s necessary.
Rather than a double-bladed lightsaber, [Ventress] wields a lightsaber pike. The shaft is of lightsaber-resistant metal, sporting a single red blade.
Ditching this. She’d wield two curved-hilt lightsabers with blue blades.
The [Mandalorians] erect planetary shield generators across the face of Alderaan. These generators, kilometres across in size, ravage the natural landscape and claim thousands-to-millions of lives.
There is no Chosen One prophecy. Anakin’s raw prowess with the Force is impetus enough for [Obi-Wan] to bring him before the Jedi Council.
The dissonance between [Obi-Wan] and the Council is greater here, with visible animosity between [Obi-Wan] and Mace Windu.
The Republic has a navy, modest but sizable enough to displace the [Mandalorian] presence on Alderaan. Being a non-member system, however, bureaucratic red tape prevents the Senate from assisting Alderaan. This is what inspires the non-confidence vote which ousts Valorum from the chancellorship.
Anakin remains behind at the Jedi Temple as [Obi-Wan] and the others return to Alderaan.
Allying with the Gungans, the Jedi & co. go to capture and disable the main shield generator. This is where [Obi-Wan] and [Qui-Gon] face [Ventress]. [Ventress] fatally wounds Qui-Gon and bests Obi-Wan. Rather than slay Obi-Wan, [Ventress] considers the [knight] too unworthy to die by [her] hand and so makes [her] departure.
The planetary shield nullified, the Republic fleet arrives to beat off the [Death Watch].
The ending mostly plays out the same as in Lucas’ film.
Keeping these.
Further changes I’d make:
- Pre Vizsla would be the leader of the Mandalorians. He’d have no darksaber, though.
- The Jedi council would remain adamant in their refusal to induct Anakin into the Jedi Order. Obi-Wan would defy them and begin training Anakin in secret.
Qui-Gon should also never constantly abuse his Force abilities to get his own way and he also wouldn’t have a contradictory moral code (e.g. he is perfectly happy brainwashing Watto into accepting useless money, but not to simply steal the spaceship part he needs).
I’ve spent the last couple months pondering this “Ultimate Star Wars Saga” of mine, trying to figure out how I’d go about it. Do I want it to be a trilogy of trilogies, a series with an indeterminate number of seasons, or a single film? How faithful do I want to remain to Lucas’ PT, or Legends, or my own previous rewrites? How many elements do I want to take from earlier SW film drafts? Do I want it to be a conservative rewrite, an extensive rewrite, or a little of both? Do I even really want to rewrite the entire saga? Maybe I really just want to pare it down to the PT, or the OT.
After considerable thought, I’ve reached some final conclusions. The Ultimate Star Wars Saga would consist of twelve episodes, forming four trilogies spanning four generations of the Skywalker family. The first trilogy, the “Pre-Clone Wars Trilogy”, would be a rewrite of my previous PT rewrite, tailored to make Obi-Wan & Anakin peers, Anakin & Vader completely separate characters, etc. The second trilogy would be a PT rewrite proper, aligning more closely with Lucas’ films. The third trilogy would be an OT rewrite. The fourth trilogy would be the ST rewrite, incorporating elements from Disney’s films, the Dark Empire trilogy, Dark Forces II, and possibly also the Thrawn trilogy.
I’ve spent the last couple months pondering this “Ultimate Star Wars Saga” of mine, trying to figure out how I’d go about it. Do I want it to be a trilogy of trilogies, a series with an indeterminate number of seasons, or a single film? How faithful do I want to remain to Lucas’ PT, or Legends, or my own previous rewrites? How many elements do I want to take from earlier SW film drafts? Do I want it to be a conservative rewrite, an extensive rewrite, or a little of both? Do I even really want to rewrite the entire saga? Maybe I really just want to pare it down to the PT, or the OT.
After considerable thought, I’ve reached some final conclusions. The Ultimate Star Wars Saga would consist of twelve episodes, forming four trilogies spanning four generations of the Skywalker family. The first trilogy, the “Pre-Clone Wars Trilogy”, would be a rewrite of my previous PT rewrite, tailored to make Obi-Wan & Anakin peers, Anakin & Vader completely separate characters, etc. The second trilogy would be a PT rewrite proper, aligning more closely with Lucas’ films. The third trilogy would be an OT rewrite. The fourth trilogy would be the ST rewrite, incorporating elements from Disney’s films, the Dark Empire trilogy, Dark Forces II, and possibly also the Thrawn trilogy.
Goood goood let the creativity flow through you…
I would suggest 2 Clone Wars one in the first trilogy with Clones against The Republic like your previous rewrite and in the second trilogy have a Second Clone War like Lucases PT. Also you should post short summaries of all 12 of your movies here (i’m curious lol)
Everything after Empire Strikes Back is shit.
Also you should post short summaries of all 12 of your movies here (i’m curious lol)
That’s the goal. Takes me forever to collate my ideas, unfortunately.
Also you should post short summaries of all 12 of your movies here (i’m curious lol)
That’s the goal. Takes me forever to collate my ideas, unfortunately.
So your PT trilogy that sticks to what Lucas wanted,does it feature Vader as the main young protagonist? I assume so if Anakin is Obi Wan’s peer.
Also what will you change about the OT besides the obvious (Leia being Lukes sister,the dumb Ewoks and Han living even though him dying would make more thematic sense etc). I remember you toying with the idea of getting rid of Owen and Beru and having Obi Wan raise Luke under the alias of Ben Lars which I thought made a lot of sense.
Everything after Empire Strikes Back is shit.
So your PT trilogy that sticks to what Lucas wanted,does it feature Vader as the main young protagonist? I assume so if Anakin is Obi Wan’s peer.
Yep. Anakin becomes the Dooku figure (who isn’t Palpatine’s apprentice).
Also what will you change about the OT besides the obvious (Leia being Lukes sister,the dumb Ewoks and Han living even though him dying would make more thematic sense etc). I remember you toying with the idea of getting rid of Owen and Beru and having Obi Wan raise Luke under the alias of Ben Lars which I thought made a lot of sense.
Right about Owen/Beru. Other major differences would be a single Death Star, ANH & TESB taking place nearly back-to-back, and Luke joining Vader at the end of TESB. I’m no longer sure if Han would die in my story. Neither Vader nor Luke get a happy ending in my version of ROTJ; adding Han’s death to the mix would push it too far into grimdark territory.
So your PT trilogy that sticks to what Lucas wanted,does it feature Vader as the main young protagonist? I assume so if Anakin is Obi Wan’s peer.
Yep. Anakin becomes the Dooku figure (who isn’t Palpatine’s apprentice).
Also what will you change about the OT besides the obvious (Leia being Lukes sister,the dumb Ewoks and Han living even though him dying would make more thematic sense etc). I remember you toying with the idea of getting rid of Owen and Beru and having Obi Wan raise Luke under the alias of Ben Lars which I thought made a lot of sense.
Right about Owen/Beru. Other major differences would be a single Death Star, ANH & TESB taking place nearly back-to-back, and Luke joining Vader at the end of TESB. I’m no longer sure if Han would die in my story. Neither Vader nor Luke get a happy ending in my version of ROTJ; adding Han’s death to the mix would push it too far into grimdark territory.
Just remember that everyone is rooting for you. I know its hard to finish a rewrite but everyone here is looking forward to it so I hope that keeps you going. Best of luck!!!
PS: Will your sequels include The Vong? They are always sadly forgotten in sequel rewrites
Everything after Empire Strikes Back is shit.
PS: Will your sequels include The Vong? They are always sadly forgotten in sequel rewrites
Really not a fan of the Vong. Sorry.
I’ve spent the last couple months pondering this “Ultimate Star Wars Saga” of mine, trying to figure out how I’d go about it. Do I want it to be a trilogy of trilogies, a series with an indeterminate number of seasons, or a single film? How faithful do I want to remain to Lucas’ PT, or Legends, or my own previous rewrites? How many elements do I want to take from earlier SW film drafts? Do I want it to be a conservative rewrite, an extensive rewrite, or a little of both? Do I even really want to rewrite the entire saga? Maybe I really just want to pare it down to the PT, or the OT.
After considerable thought, I’ve reached some final conclusions. The Ultimate Star Wars Saga would consist of twelve episodes, forming four trilogies spanning four generations of the Skywalker family. The first trilogy, the “Pre-Clone Wars Trilogy”, would be a rewrite of my previous PT rewrite, tailored to make Obi-Wan & Anakin peers, Anakin & Vader completely separate characters, etc. The second trilogy would be a PT rewrite proper, aligning more closely with Lucas’ films. The third trilogy would be an OT rewrite. The fourth trilogy would be the ST rewrite, incorporating elements from Disney’s films, the Dark Empire trilogy, Dark Forces II, and possibly also the Thrawn trilogy.
Fickle sumbitch that I am, I don’t think I’ll be going this route after all, as interesting a route it may be.
I keep reflecting on my incompleted PT rewrite. It was something of a hot mess, but I like the story I was crafting; I’d rather streamline/expand it into a TCW-esque series than work with Lucas’ table scraps.
Some concepts I have in mind for this prequel series:
I’ve spent the last couple months pondering this “Ultimate Star Wars Saga” of mine, trying to figure out how I’d go about it. Do I want it to be a trilogy of trilogies, a series with an indeterminate number of seasons, or a single film? How faithful do I want to remain to Lucas’ PT, or Legends, or my own previous rewrites? How many elements do I want to take from earlier SW film drafts? Do I want it to be a conservative rewrite, an extensive rewrite, or a little of both? Do I even really want to rewrite the entire saga? Maybe I really just want to pare it down to the PT, or the OT.
After considerable thought, I’ve reached some final conclusions. The Ultimate Star Wars Saga would consist of twelve episodes, forming four trilogies spanning four generations of the Skywalker family. The first trilogy, the “Pre-Clone Wars Trilogy”, would be a rewrite of my previous PT rewrite, tailored to make Obi-Wan & Anakin peers, Anakin & Vader completely separate characters, etc. The second trilogy would be a PT rewrite proper, aligning more closely with Lucas’ films. The third trilogy would be an OT rewrite. The fourth trilogy would be the ST rewrite, incorporating elements from Disney’s films, the Dark Empire trilogy, Dark Forces II, and possibly also the Thrawn trilogy.
Fickle sumbitch that I am, I don’t think I’ll be going this route after all, as interesting a route it may be.
I keep reflecting on my incompleted PT rewrite. It was something of a hot mess, but I like the story I was crafting; I’d rather streamline/expand it into a TCW-esque series than work with Lucas’ table scraps.
Some concepts I have in mind for this prequel series:
- Darth Vader & Anakin Skywalker are separate characters. Darth is the biological son of Shmi Warka & Chlorian Vader, adopted son/apprentice of Obi-Wan Kenobi & Siri Tachi. Anakin is a non-Force-sensitive farmer married to Amidala Skywalker; their daughter is Nashira Skywalker, Darth’s lover.
- Tatooine was a prosperous frontier world until the Clone Wars.
- The Clone Wars were instigated by Mandalorian clone warriors, descendants of Mandalorians who fled to the Rishi Maze during the Mandalorian Wars and conquered the native Kaminoans.
- Yoda & Qui-Gon Jinn are among the “Lost Twenty”, heterodox Jedi who left the order due to disillusionment with the Order. Yoda went into self-imposed exile on Dagobah while Qui-Gon established the Potentium.
- Asajj Ventress is Qui-Gon’s foremost apprentice and second-in-command.
- Jedi wield blue lightsabers, Potentiates violet lightsabers. Only Darth has a unique lightsaber colour (yellow).
- Darth loses his right arm/legs in his penultimate duel with Obi-Wan, but otherwise remains unharmed. Further injuries/bionic enhancements will accumulate over the course of the Jedi Purge.
- Adopting the alias “Owen Lars”, Obi-Wan takes baby Luke into hiding with him on Tatooine, where he eventually meets/marries Beru Whitesun.
Are you still rewriting the OT after?
So Lukes father won’t be Anakin in this version?
Everything after Empire Strikes Back is shit.
I’ve spent the last couple months pondering this “Ultimate Star Wars Saga” of mine, trying to figure out how I’d go about it. Do I want it to be a trilogy of trilogies, a series with an indeterminate number of seasons, or a single film? How faithful do I want to remain to Lucas’ PT, or Legends, or my own previous rewrites? How many elements do I want to take from earlier SW film drafts? Do I want it to be a conservative rewrite, an extensive rewrite, or a little of both? Do I even really want to rewrite the entire saga? Maybe I really just want to pare it down to the PT, or the OT.
After considerable thought, I’ve reached some final conclusions. The Ultimate Star Wars Saga would consist of twelve episodes, forming four trilogies spanning four generations of the Skywalker family. The first trilogy, the “Pre-Clone Wars Trilogy”, would be a rewrite of my previous PT rewrite, tailored to make Obi-Wan & Anakin peers, Anakin & Vader completely separate characters, etc. The second trilogy would be a PT rewrite proper, aligning more closely with Lucas’ films. The third trilogy would be an OT rewrite. The fourth trilogy would be the ST rewrite, incorporating elements from Disney’s films, the Dark Empire trilogy, Dark Forces II, and possibly also the Thrawn trilogy.
Fickle sumbitch that I am, I don’t think I’ll be going this route after all, as interesting a route it may be.
I keep reflecting on my incompleted PT rewrite. It was something of a hot mess, but I like the story I was crafting; I’d rather streamline/expand it into a TCW-esque series than work with Lucas’ table scraps.
Some concepts I have in mind for this prequel series:
- Darth Vader & Anakin Skywalker are separate characters. Darth is the biological son of Shmi Warka & Chlorian Vader, adopted son/apprentice of Obi-Wan Kenobi & Siri Tachi. Anakin is a non-Force-sensitive farmer married to Amidala Skywalker; their daughter is Nashira Skywalker, Darth’s lover.
- Tatooine was a prosperous frontier world until the Clone Wars.
- The Clone Wars were instigated by Mandalorian clone warriors, descendants of Mandalorians who fled to the Rishi Maze during the Mandalorian Wars and conquered the native Kaminoans.
- Yoda & Qui-Gon Jinn are among the “Lost Twenty”, heterodox Jedi who left the order due to disillusionment with the Order. Yoda went into self-imposed exile on Dagobah while Qui-Gon established the Potentium.
- Asajj Ventress is Qui-Gon’s foremost apprentice and second-in-command.
- Jedi wield blue lightsabers, Potentiates violet lightsabers. Only Darth has a unique lightsaber colour (yellow).
- Darth loses his right arm/legs in his penultimate duel with Obi-Wan, but otherwise remains unharmed. Further injuries/bionic enhancements will accumulate over the course of the Jedi Purge.
- Adopting the alias “Owen Lars”, Obi-Wan takes baby Luke into hiding with him on Tatooine, where he eventually meets/marries Beru Whitesun.
Are you still rewriting the OT after?
Yeah. I’m just not going to restrict myself to the trilogy format anymore.
So Lukes father won’t be Anakin in this version?
Nope. Maternal grandfather instead.
Whose the antagonist of this series?
How are the sith different than in the Lucasverse?
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OP has been kicked out from this site.
Fuck…what happened?