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Originally posted by: Warbler
you people are really offending me. I don't know that I even want to continue posting at this forum after reading some of that. Saddam no worse than Bush? that's bullshit!! Bush is a bad President(not for much longer I hope) but Saddam is an evil murdering dictator. there is no comparison.
i am sorry your affended but warbler that is a risk you take when you enter discussions like this. dont leave the baord if you dont like what you see here, but leave this thread if you cant handle it.
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So the question is what can the Presdent do with the military without the Congress declaring war? I don't know. Its hard to say. But Presidents have been doing it since Korea.
your right and that is something is not good. and it has to be stopped but i cant do anything about it .
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Motti, the Twin towers were not a Military target. They were a place where over 3,000 civilians worked. CIVILIANS!!!!!! that really offended me, Motti, please don't try to justify that kind of mass murder, you can't.
and what about the mass murders that took place when the us carried out its air campaign in iraq. they only show the bomb that hit there tagets on TV you know. you know the ppl in iraq and palistine and afgaistan and bosnia and all the other place where the US have made war feel the same way.
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The people who commited the attacks were sick evil murderers pure and simple. And it offends me when you suggest that the USA is somehow deserving of that kind of attack. The 3000 people who were killed didn't deserve it pure and simple!
in many ways the US got what was coming to it. the US tries to interfere in other peoples affairs too much they either send funds or supply here or they invade there. that is why alqida hates them. rather then just saying someone is evil and bad try to figure out why they feel they way they do. the US help Osama back in 1979 why would he hate them now. Because the US trys to control everything. they put there nose where it does not belong. i am not saying that 911 was right and to tell you something i knew people that died that day. my cousin worked a block away from the twin towers at that time, he is still alive but there were people that i knew through him that died on that day.
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Shim, first you complain about how The U.S. didn't do anything about Hitler until we were attacked, that we did nothing while he began to murder Jews. Now you want us to do nothing while Saddam Murders his own people. You can't have it both ways.
i am not trying to have it both ways i am mearly pointing out that then they didn't think that they should the police the world back then why do they think they can now. at that time we didnt have a UN now we do.
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Is the Ira evil and should they be taken down? yes But they havn't attacked us yet, they don't continue to threaten to attack us. I'm not against Great Britian going after the Ira. It is just that Al-qaeda attacked us and is threatening to do it again and therefor they take priority over the IRA (for the USA that is). And I am unaware of any connection between the IRA and the USA.
no comment because i dont really know anyhitng about the IRA. but a question didnt bush declare war on a tactic. therefore shouldnt he attack and be at war with everyone who uses that tactic. not just pick and choose. he made a defiant statement and he should stand beside it. if this truely is a war on terrorism he should hit all terrorist org. not jsut the islamic ones that threaten him. i am sure if he went after the IRA much of the islam war would came down and his war wouldnt be called a crusade. even if bush called it a crusade it is not motti. bush is not very bright and so he says stuff he doesnt mean or are not true. ( the axis of evil for example.)
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I would ask all those who think we were wrong for attacking afganistan. To tell me what we should have done. And keep in mind that we don't have time machines to go back in time and stop ourselves from setting Al-qaeda up. Al-qaeda is here no matter how much we now regret helping them in the past, they are still here and are a threat. What in hell are we supposed to do?!? Tell me!
no one disagrees with you there.
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I am a proud American and your statements have hurt me
just because your a proud american doesnt mean you have to agree with everything you country does. part of being wise is to be open minded warbler.